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407pilot

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May 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/27/99
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I'll address your first question. It depends more on the type of
aircraft than anything else. Most aircraft not only carry passengers,
they also carry cargo. For the bigger planes, passenger seating will
effect the center of gravity much less than the placement of cargo and
fuel loading. Smaller planes are effected more by passenger placement.

Large jets may seem empty, however, they may have a full cargo load.
Passenger seating may be effected more by company policy or flight
attendant workload. If you don't like your seat, politely request a
different seat.

In article <uKe33.1357$PN5....@newsfeeds.bigpond.com>,
"Michael Galbraith" <galb...@nospamthanks.hotmail.com> wrote:
> Do the airlines fill an aircraft in any particular fashion? For
instance on
> a unfilled flight, do they balance the aircraft seating to ensure
equal
> passengers around the aircraft?
>
> Also, whats the deal with mystery flights? Do they leave early
morning
> generally? I live in Perth so dept times greatley affect the time
that can
> be spent at the destination?
>
>


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Trevor Fenn

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May 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/27/99
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407pilot wrote:

> I'll address your first question. It depends more on the type of
> aircraft than anything else. Most aircraft not only carry passengers,
> they also carry cargo. For the bigger planes, passenger seating will
> effect the center of gravity much less than the placement of cargo and
> fuel loading. Smaller planes are effected more by passenger placement.
>

Not so, more than once I've had to have the crew re-arrange the passenger
positions on a lightly loaded ProAir 737 to get it back in the envelope.
Most airliners don't carry as much cargo as you would think, it is all
baggage which ofr course is proportional to the passenger numbers.

An all economy A320 with 174 seats is a completely different animal to plan
the load on than an A320 configured for 12 first and 138 economy seats.

Many airlines such as Air Jamaica and World Airways break the passenger
load up by set percentages for each zone in the cabin and seats are
allocated according to those formula.

Trevor Fenn

Michael Galbraith

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May 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/28/99
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ramblin' man

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May 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/28/99
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Hey I heard of a guy from Canberra and his partner who drove to Sydney for
their mystery flight because
they figured with all the additional departures they had a much better
chance of an interesting port. Guess what,
they got 8 hours in Canberra.....went home and mowed the lawn I hear.
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Chris Brown

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May 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/28/99
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Michael Galbraith <galb...@nospamthanks.hotmail.com> wrote:
: Also, whats the deal with mystery flights? Do they leave early morning

: generally? I live in Perth so dept times greatley affect the time that can
: be spent at the destination?

Ex-perth if you're going to the East coast you'll be given a checkin
at about 10-11pm the night before and take one of the redeyes, so you
get some good time in the city.

For intraState flights, you'll generally be given a checkin time
in the morning, about 6-7am. (Yay, Bae-146 to Kal, packed with
Mystery flight people and about 4 passengers who actually wanted
to go to Kalgoorlie was my last one.. :) (On a saturday, ansett)

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Paul Murgatroyd

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May 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/28/99
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Trevor Fenn wrote in message <7ik45a$ks3$1...@autumn.news.rcn.net>...

>Not so, more than once I've had to have the crew re-arrange the passenger
>positions on a lightly loaded ProAir 737 to get it back in the envelope.
>Most airliners don't carry as much cargo as you would think, it is all
>baggage which ofr course is proportional to the passenger numbers.

Quick question: what do you use for the passenger weights? The standard
(77kg?) also, what do you do if you have a plane load of football players
heading home?

Paul

Trevor Fenn

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May 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/28/99
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Paul Murgatroyd wrote:

We use a standard weight on most airlines. Air Jamaica uses 165 pounds,
Mexicana 75 Kgs, Frontier and Proair use different standard weights for summer
and winter and Frontier has a "Special" table which uses 200 pounds per pax.
The World Airways flights I work are military transport flights and the use
actual weights for pax and bags.

Trevor Fenn

Martin Taylor

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May 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/31/99
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Paul Murgatroyd said..

PM> Quick question: what do you use for the passenger weights? The
PM> standard (77kg?) also, what do you do if you have a plane load of
PM> football players heading home?

If the captain has any feelings for the non-football player pax, he'll
ban any alcohol consumption on the flight....

.. Misers aren't much fun to live with, but they make great ancestors.

MJT


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