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What happened with VH-OJE/QF5 yesterday?

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Bernard Smith

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Jun 5, 2002, 3:47:55 AM6/5/02
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"breach" <mzgyq...@mailexpire.com> wrote in message
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> Anyone catch what was up with VH-OJE/QF5 yesterday. It
> taxied for RWY34L in Sydney, stopped about 1Km from
> the end on taxiway alpha, and sat there for about 20
> mins before proceeding to what seemed to be a perfectly
> normal departure.

Reported on the Sydney Airport Message Board as having an electronics
problem which righted itself just as the aircraft was about to return
to the terminal.

http://216.71.110.191/cgi-bin/yssy/msgboard/UltraBoard.pl?Action=ShowP
ost&Board=Sydney_Airport&Post=6674&Idle=7&Sort=0&Order=Descend&Page=0&
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Thegoons

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Jun 6, 2002, 10:11:07 AM6/6/02
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Yes, monitored 131.7MHz discussions with QF ENG - error messages displayed
re window heating system. After many recycles of the breakers and system
resets the error message finally disappeared. Fortunate it wasn't too busy
at the time.

JB

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Jun 6, 2002, 7:34:39 PM6/6/02
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"Thegoons" <Theg...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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> Yes, monitored 131.7MHz discussions with QF ENG - error messages displayed
> re window heating system. After many recycles of the breakers and system
> resets the error message finally disappeared. Fortunate it wasn't too busy
> at the time.
>

Oh, and how do you know that there were "many recycles of the breakers". I'm
sure they didn't count them out over the radio.

JB


Stealth Pilot

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Jun 9, 2002, 9:34:52 AM6/9/02
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"many recycles" doesnt seem to accord with standard aviation practise.
wonder how much kero it evaporated?
Stealth Pilot

JB

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Jun 9, 2002, 7:19:58 PM6/9/02
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"Stealth Pilot" <tail...@ieyenetdotnetdotau.spurious> wrote in message

> >Oh, and how do you know that there were "many recycles of the breakers".
I'm
> >sure they didn't count them out over the radio.
> >
> >JB
> >
> "many recycles" doesnt seem to accord with standard aviation practise.
> wonder how much kero it evaporated?
> Stealth Pilot

It definately isn't, and it also isn't how they would reset the window heat
system anyway.

JB


Wee Duncan

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Jun 10, 2002, 7:36:15 AM6/10/02
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tail...@ieyenetdotnetdotau.spurious (Stealth Pilot) wrote in message news:<3d03593a...@news.m.iinet.net.au>...

> "many recycles" doesnt seem to accord with standard aviation practise.

Very agricultural - doesn't sound like Qantas subscribes to the well
tested "Problems that go away by themselves usually come back by
themselves" theory. :-(

Andrew Puddifer

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Jun 10, 2002, 8:07:43 AM6/10/02
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Everyone knows if you have to reset a breaker more than five times, you
tape it on anyway! :)

Regards, Andrew.

JB

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Jun 10, 2002, 9:35:19 AM6/10/02
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"Wee Duncan" <duncan...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> tail...@ieyenetdotnetdotau.spurious (Stealth Pilot) wrote in message
news:<3d03593a...@news.m.iinet.net.au>...
> > "many recycles" doesnt seem to accord with standard aviation practise.


As I said earlier in the piece, the breakers would not have been reset. The
window heat system is reset by turning the 4 individual switches off,
waiting at least 10 seconds, and then turning them back on again.

>
> Very agricultural - doesn't sound like Qantas subscribes to the well
> tested "Problems that go away by themselves usually come back by
> themselves" theory. :-(

Sounds like you have never had anything to do with EICAS....

JB


JMac

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Jun 10, 2002, 7:50:09 PM6/10/02
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> I think the symptom was a fault with the window heaters, but it was some
other
> type of display screen that was showing various errors. On 131.7MHz they
> mentioned they had reset the breakers. However, this may have been the
pilot's
> loose terminology usage for the switches.

There is a subtle difference between 'cycling' circuit breakers and
'resetting' breakers.
Some systems don't have on/off switches...so the only way off
removing/restoring power
is to cycle the breakers!


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