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David

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Nov 7, 2002, 10:15:57 PM11/7/02
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Does anyone know how to access the service menu on a TEAC widescreen TV?
The model number is CTW-3250S.

Thanks in advance.


Steve Cutting

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Nov 8, 2002, 1:41:17 AM11/8/02
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On Fri, 8 Nov 2002 14:15:57 +1100, "David" <david...@trumpet.com.au>
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> Does anyone know how to access the service menu on a TEAC widescreen TV?
>The model number is CTW-3250S.

Here is a cut/paste from an old post of mine.

Steve

<snip>
You need to be in TV mode not AV. IIRC you then press the install button on
the remote to bring up the install menu. Then make sure you have the cursor
sitting on TUNING. (this is why it has to be in TV mode, because in AV there
is no tuning option in this menu). Now type 4725 on the remote. This should
give you the service menu. Go into the top option.

The settings are not labeled, just numbered from 0-63 IIRC. Press the
up/down arrows to scroll through settings and L/R to adjust them. 0,1 and 2
are the RGB drive settings, so you can fiddle with these if you want to
adjust your colour balance. As for geometry, there are individual settings
for each screen mode (4:3, 16:9, cinema etc etc). There's about a dozen or
so settings for each mode, and the settings for the first mode (4:3) start
somewhere around 8-10ish IIRC. I don't remember the actual setting numbers
but it's easy to figure them out. As you press UP to scroll through the
settings, you will see that the screen changes modes every dozen or so
presses. You're now in the geometry settings for that mode. The settings for
pincushion, trapezoid etc are the last few settings in each mode. All the
other standard adjustments are in there too, including V/H size and
position. You'll have to have a play around to find those because I don't
remember which ones they are.

Remember to make a note of all settings before you change them, so you can
change them back if necessary.

Once you've got it right, exit the service menu. Then turn off the set via
the remote, then turn it off with the main power switch. This is required to
make it remember the settings.

HTH. BTW I don't have this set anymore and I'm just going from memory. Let
me know if you have any probs. Since I don't have the set in front of me
anymore it's possible I have mixed up the button labels or something.

<snip>

David

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Nov 9, 2002, 8:23:20 PM11/9/02
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Thanks heaps for that - your instructions were very clear, and all worked
as you said. The only thing is that I have an ovation software calibration
dvd, and yet if I have to be in TV mode to get to the service menu, then I
can't play the dvd while I'm calibrating.

Is there a way around this?

I mainly want to just get rid of some of the overscan, and also there is a
slight green haze around image edges when I play dvds (some worse than
others). I'm not sure if its the player or the TV, but I wanted to see if I
could turn the green down a bit.

Did your TEAC TV have this problem when it was first out of the box? Is it
worth getting it professionally calibrated do you think, or did you manage
to accurately do it yourself?

Thanks again for your help.

PS I'm using the s-video input, not the composite.


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Steve Cutting

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Nov 9, 2002, 10:54:53 PM11/9/02
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On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 12:23:20 +1100, "David" <david...@trumpet.com.au>
wrote:

>
> Thanks heaps for that - your instructions were very clear, and all worked
>as you said. The only thing is that I have an ovation software calibration
>dvd, and yet if I have to be in TV mode to get to the service menu, then I
>can't play the dvd while I'm calibrating.
>
> Is there a way around this?

The only thing I can think of is to use a VCR. Hook your DVD player up to
it's AUX input, then connect the aerial output to the TV and switch the VCR
to AUX. Bit of a pain but I can't think of anything else, and I don't have a
set here to fiddle with.

> I mainly want to just get rid of some of the overscan, and also there is a
>slight green haze around image edges when I play dvds (some worse than
>others). I'm not sure if its the player or the TV, but I wanted to see if I
>could turn the green down a bit.
>
> Did your TEAC TV have this problem when it was first out of the box? Is it
>worth getting it professionally calibrated do you think, or did you manage
>to accurately do it yourself?

Mine had a different problem, which was the alignment of the picture in 4:3
mode. Easy fix though. The guy from Teac came and did it. That's how I found
out the service code. Didn't have any colour problem though. Mind you I was
using RGB/scart so that may have been a factor.

The overscan you should be able to fix yourself easily, especially if you
have a calibration DVD. If you decide to start adjusting other areas of the
geometry bear in mind that you'll never get it 100% spot-on. You might have
to settle with a slight bend here or there etc. That's more to do with WS
CRT's in general rather than the brand. You'll notice even mega$$$$ Loewe
owners complaining about geometry in these NG's. You should be able to get
it pretty close though.

Your green problem I'm not sure about. If it was the whole picture then it
would just be a case of turning the green down a bit. The fact that you say
it's only on edges suggests it's something else. Have you noticed it on
other signal sources ?? ie composite or TV ??

> Thanks again for your help.

no probs

Steve

David

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Nov 10, 2002, 8:13:23 PM11/10/02
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Thanks again Steve for the really helpful information. I found out that you
can actually have the TV in any mode and still use the 4725 code, just so
long as you have the cursor over the top menu item when you enter the code.

> Mine had a different problem, which was the alignment of the picture in
4:3
> mode. Easy fix though. The guy from Teac came and did it. That's how I
found
> out the service code. Didn't have any colour problem though. Mind you I
was
> using RGB/scart so that may have been a factor.

> Your green problem I'm not sure about. If it was the whole picture then it


> would just be a case of turning the green down a bit. The fact that you
say
> it's only on edges suggests it's something else. Have you noticed it on
> other signal sources ?? ie composite or TV ??

I'm using the s-video input, and after some testing last night it seems
like the colour problem is only with this input. I don't actually have a TV
aerial (believe it or not I don't watch TV - just dvds), but I borrowed one
after you suggested checking other sources, and there didn't appear to any
green edges. I also plugged a friend's Nintendo into the composit AV input
and that was ok too.

I don't want to use composite for dvd though, due to the degraded image
quality, so I guess my only other option is the RGB/scart you mentioned. How
do you actually use this in your setup? Do you have a component to scart
adaptor or something?

> The overscan you should be able to fix yourself easily, especially if you
> have a calibration DVD. If you decide to start adjusting other areas of
the
> geometry bear in mind that you'll never get it 100% spot-on. You might
have
> to settle with a slight bend here or there etc. That's more to do with WS
> CRT's in general rather than the brand. You'll notice even mega$$$$ Loewe
> owners complaining about geometry in these NG's. You should be able to get
> it pretty close though.

Managed to get it much better than it was, and to my untrained eye it looks
perfect enough :-)

Thanks again - you should be charging me for your services!

Steve Cutting

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Nov 11, 2002, 2:17:29 AM11/11/02
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On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:13:23 +1100, "David" <david...@trumpet.com.au>
wrote:

> I'm using the s-video input, and after some testing last night it seems
>like the colour problem is only with this input. I don't actually have a TV
>aerial (believe it or not I don't watch TV - just dvds), but I borrowed one

I believe you, I don't have an aerial connected either :) I bought my TV
purely for DVD's and games. There's an aerial on the roof which I never got
around to connecting when I moved in a year ago. Haven't missed TV one bit.
I'd only really ever watch the news anyway, and now I just get that off the
net.

>after you suggested checking other sources, and there didn't appear to any
>green edges. I also plugged a friend's Nintendo into the composit AV input
>and that was ok too.

Have you you tried your player's svideo-out on a different TV ?? That would
establish if it's the player or your TV. And have you made sure the player
is set to svideo output ?? On my player it needs to be selected in the
setup menu. If it is your TV then IMO it would be worth getting a Teac tech
to come and have a look at it. I found the Teac service to be excellent.
They have their own techs/vans and the guy seemed to know his stuff.

> I don't want to use composite for dvd though, due to the degraded image
>quality, so I guess my only other option is the RGB/scart you mentioned. How
>do you actually use this in your setup? Do you have a component to scart
>adaptor or something?

I have a player with RGB/scart output. It's a few-year-old Onkyo. There are
such things as component>RGB convertors (called transcoders) which you could
use to connect a component-out player to this TV, but I believe they cost
$$$$$$ and it would be cheaper/easier to buy a new DVD player.


> Thanks again - you should be charging me for your services!

can be arranged ! :)

Steve

David

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Nov 13, 2002, 8:26:53 PM11/13/02
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> I believe you, I don't have an aerial connected either :) I bought my TV
> purely for DVD's and games. There's an aerial on the roof which I never
got
> around to connecting when I moved in a year ago. Haven't missed TV one
bit.
> I'd only really ever watch the news anyway, and now I just get that off
the
> net.

Wow you mean there IS another person that owns a TV and doesn't watch any
public programming?! I don't feel so alone in the world anymore :)

> Have you you tried your player's svideo-out on a different TV ?? That
would
> establish if it's the player or your TV. And have you made sure the player
> is set to svideo output ?? On my player it needs to be selected in the
> setup menu. If it is your TV then IMO it would be worth getting a Teac
tech
> to come and have a look at it. I found the Teac service to be excellent.
> They have their own techs/vans and the guy seemed to know his stuff.

I don't have another s-video capable TV to test it on unfortunately. I'll
try with a different player this weekend though. Might give the TEAC guys a
call actually if they're as good as you say. I always assume I'm going to
get ripped off and have bad service these days, so its nice to hear that
good service is still out there somewhere.

> I have a player with RGB/scart output. It's a few-year-old Onkyo. There
are
> such things as component>RGB convertors (called transcoders) which you
could
> use to connect a component-out player to this TV, but I believe they cost
> $$$$$$ and it would be cheaper/easier to buy a new DVD player.

KMart have a cheapo player with scart output actually, and everything's 15%
off today. Hmm, it is kind of tempting. Is the RGB output from a scart
connection noticeably better than S-Video output?

> > Thanks again - you should be charging me for your services!
>
> can be arranged ! :)

Oops, did I actually say that out loud?! Ummm, I'd love to arrange
something, but ... err... my dog ate my wallet... sorry.

I genuinely do appreciate the help you've given me - thanks a lot.


Steve Cutting

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Nov 14, 2002, 1:44:40 AM11/14/02
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On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:26:53 +1100, "David" <david...@trumpet.com.au>
wrote:

> Wow you mean there IS another person that owns a TV and doesn't watch any
>public programming?! I don't feel so alone in the world anymore :)

heheh. There's so much crap on TV nowadays I honestly couldn't be bothered
wading through it all to find the occasional thing worth watching. Was
considering getting cable when I first moved in, but I really wouldn't watch
it enough to justify the money.

> I don't have another s-video capable TV to test it on unfortunately. I'll
>try with a different player this weekend though. Might give the TEAC guys a
>call actually if they're as good as you say. I always assume I'm going to
>get ripped off and have bad service these days, so its nice to hear that
>good service is still out there somewhere.

Yeah the Teac service was great. Make use of it because you've payed for it.
Way better than Grundig, who just refer you to a 3rd-party who have no idea.

>> I have a player with RGB/scart output. It's a few-year-old Onkyo. There
>are
>> such things as component>RGB convertors (called transcoders) which you
>could
>> use to connect a component-out player to this TV, but I believe they cost
>> $$$$$$ and it would be cheaper/easier to buy a new DVD player.
>
> KMart have a cheapo player with scart output actually, and everything's 15%
>off today. Hmm, it is kind of tempting. Is the RGB output from a scart
>connection noticeably better than S-Video output?

Yes providing it's a decent player. RGB output makes everything nice and
sharp and gives you fantastic colour/contrast. As such if the player does a
decent job of decoding you will get a superb picture. If the player does a
crappy job of decoding then the RGB output might just show that up. ie the
nice sharp RGB picture might show up lots of horrid decoding artifacts that
wouldn't really be noticeable with the blurrier composite/svideo. What is
the player you're talking about ?? Could be worth a try.

The green haze problem you described does make it sound like something is
wrong somewhere though, either in the TV or player. Did you check that the
player was set to svideo output in it's setup menu ?? (might not be
necessary on your player but it is on mine)

Steve

David

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Nov 20, 2002, 7:43:29 PM11/20/02
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> Yes providing it's a decent player. RGB output makes everything nice and
> sharp and gives you fantastic colour/contrast. As such if the player does
a
> decent job of decoding you will get a superb picture. If the player does a
> crappy job of decoding then the RGB output might just show that up. ie the
> nice sharp RGB picture might show up lots of horrid decoding artifacts
that
> wouldn't really be noticeable with the blurrier composite/svideo. What is
> the player you're talking about ?? Could be worth a try.

Its a cheapo Magnavox MDVD 100 (about $175 at KMart), so I'm suspicious as
to its decoding capabilities, although some cheapo players have great video
quality.

> The green haze problem you described does make it sound like something is
> wrong somewhere though, either in the TV or player. Did you check that the
> player was set to svideo output in it's setup menu ?? (might not be
> necessary on your player but it is on mine)

No it doesn't have an output mode for video. I've tried a different player
now (a much newer/better one) with s-video, and the slightly green hazy
edges seem to be diminished, but are still there. They're also there with
composite output. I'd really like to try the RGB mode with the scart, just
to confirm whether it is the TV or not.

To view in RGB on this TV via scart, do you just plug it into either of the
scart plugs at the back (there's two I think), and select RGB mode?

I'll give the TEAC guys a call, because the TV's still under warranty, so
if it is a problem they should fix it for free.


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