Using a tablet with Garmin Edge

[Howard Dove]

Does anyone out there use a 7 or 8 inch tablet with a Garmin Edge device?
I want to be able to travel with said tablet and be able to download activities to Strava.
Research I've done so far warns that there may not be enough power to switch on the device. Also confused about "On the go" (otg) cables and/or micro to USB adapters.
Can anyone recommend the best (lightest/ least bulky way to do this?
Cheers
Howard

[Craig McGregor]

Which model Edge?

Least bulky as requested:

Install the Garmin Connect App, and then use Bluetooth LTE to transfer?

Then link Garmin Connect with Strava/RWGPS/MapMyRide?

Works fine with an Edge 1000 & Samsung Galaxy Note4.

Old Tech:

For Android devices you can use an OTG Cable, which will enable you to mount your Camera or Camera etc as like a USB storage device on a PC.

Small cable to get lost, but cheaper than new phone/tablet and/or Garmin.

Craig.

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[Simon Naunton]

I've used my android phone with my 800.

Usually they need to be rooted, which means getting full administrative access, not either of the Australian meanings of the words, to be able to mount a USB drive (which is what your edge looks like to a computer). Neither my Google Nexus 5 or Samsung Galaxy Nexus 3 could mount a USB drive without being rooted. OTOH the cheapo chindroid tablet I bought for my son a couple of years ago is rooted out of the box.

So, what tablet do you have?

Without going into details. OTG simply allows you to plug usb devices into your tablet/phones usb port. You need it.

Don't worry about power unless you are planning to the Edge plugged in a long time. If it is just for strava, plug in, copy files, eject. That's only going to take a minute or two. Same the other way around if you are copying routes to the edge.

[Simon Naunton]

WRT power, you can get OTG cables which also have a normal usb plug to plug into power adaptor to also provide power to the device, e.g.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-Micro-USB-Host-OTG-Cable-with-USB-power-Male-Female-usb-cable-for-tablet-pc-/131256351654?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item1e8f7cfba6

[SimonW]

G'day Howard, 

I have an OTG cable (micro USB to USB female) lead that came with my Sony Xperia Z1 Compact smartphone. You can buy such a cable here, for example.

It allows me to mount any USB pluggable device: hard drive, thumb drive, mouse, keyboard or Garmin to my smartphone. I have used it to mount my Garmin Edge 500 to copy activities files to the phone and tcx files to the Garmin. RWGPS permits an activity file to be emailed and auto uploaded from the email. Does Strava have something similar?

There is no power being supplied via the USB connection, just a data connection in these cases. If you mount an external hard drive for instance, it will only work if it can take an external power source. But my Garmin Edge 500 just mounts like a memory /SD card with all directories and files available for all the things you can do to files and directories on your grown up computer.

This might be useful for those travelling abroad. For example, load the tcx files for each PBP stage onto your smartphone memory card, and copy them to your Garmin as needed. Similarly copy oompleted activity files (.fit) from your Garmin to your phone's memory card. This is more apt for the 500 as it has only modest onboard memory.

Hope that helps

Cheers, Simon

[Frank Zgoznik]

If you have an Edge 510, 810 or 1000 then you can download the Garmin Connect app and sync to Garmin device to the Garmin Website via bluetooth. You'll have to allow auto sync from Garmin's website to Strava as well - there's a link in Strava for that.

That's the easy way.

If you have an Android tablet with an earlier model Garmin then I can't advise. No experience. But the details below may help.

If you have an Apple tablet with an earlier model Garmin then I recommend the Kingston Mobilelite wireless gadget, along with the Kingston app and the iCab mobile app. It's very finicky but it does work. More details can be found at https://forums.garmin.com/archive/index.php/t-27933.html - refer particularly to the comments from ASTEELE4 04-07-2014 12:43 PM

Frank

On 29 May 2015 at 14:42, 'Howard Dove' via Audax Australia <auda...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

[Hamish Moffatt]

On 29/05/15 14:52, Simon Naunton wrote:
> I've used my android phone with my 800.
>
> Usually they need to be rooted, which means getting full
> administrative access, not either of the Australian meanings of the
> words, to be able to mount a USB drive (which is what your edge looks
> like to a computer). Neither my Google Nexus 5 or Samsung Galaxy Nexus
> 3 could mount a USB drive without being rooted. OTOH the cheapo
> chindroid tablet I bought for my son a couple of years ago is rooted
> out of the box.
>
>

You can use the "Nexus Media Importer" app to read from the Garmin
without root and without one of the above devices. I've used it
successfully with the Google Nexus 7 tablet and also my Nexus 10, and my
old Samsung Galaxy S3.

Now using the S5 which has USB mounting built-in.

No problems with powering the Edge 800. (Nor the Garmin fenix.)


Hamish

[Simon Naunton]

Pay for an app!?!?!?!

[Howard Dove]

I presently have an iPad  2, which doesn't have any kind of USB connection. Prepared to buy another tablet that will do the job, but don't want to make the mistake of finding out that it does not.

BTW -I did read that the OTG cable "uses the fifth pin to" ....  then I glazed over.

Cheers                           

Howard

[Howard Dove]

Thanks Simon, I'll need to read this 10 times (slowly) to get it into my non technical head, but looks promising. Will try and find out whether it will work with iphone6 and Garmin 800/810

Thanks

Howard

[Hamish Moffatt]

Which Edge model then Howard? If 510/810 or later they have Bluetooth and you can use it with your iPad 2, apparently.

http://support.garmin.com/support/searchSupport/simpleCase.htm?caseId={ba0fea50-9e59-11e3-43b8-000000000000}&kbName=garmin

That will upload to Garmin Connect for you (Garmin's poor man's version of Strava). You can sync it to Strava from there.

I don't know if it can be done with earlier Garmin models. Apple doesn't like you doing stuff like that.

Hamish

[Howard Dove]

Ah it was the Nexus 7 I was pondering over.
Cheers
Howard

[Craig McGregor]

Needs Bluetooth LE/4.0/Smart depending how you choose to describe it.

I'm a non apple owner but believe it needs an iPad3 or newer.

[SimonW]

Current band of android phones support USB host or OTG out of the box: my Sony is over a year old and came with an OTG cable in the box. Use one of the free android apps from Google Play Store to check whether or not your device does or does not support OTG/USB Host:

• USB Host Diagnostics
  
• USB OTG Checker
  
• others

Most current gen smartphones also support MHL to connect/display on a monitor/flat screen. OTG and MHL allow you to connect your phone to a keyboard, mouse, external hard drive and external monitor all through that micro USB port - what larks!

Here's how

http://www.lindy.com.au/smartphone-tablet-mhl-docking-station

Sorry, back to cycling now. Anyone interested in crowd funding my new recumbent, send your blank cheques and pin numbers to me at... :)

Cheers, Simon