Gurzil? Max4Live and OSC

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weevil

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Jan 11, 2010, 12:54:09 PM1/11/10
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Does anyone on here have any knowledge of Max4Live and how you use it
to get OSC out of Ableton Live? I'm going to be using it to control
vdmx and I need a crash course. I seem to remember someone on here
being a Max person (Gurzil?).

Anthony Palomba

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Jan 11, 2010, 2:49:20 PM1/11/10
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Yes, you can. You need to create a M4L patch that takes MIDI data,
or M4L control data, and formats it for OSC and then sends it
via UDP.

OSC formatting is done wiht CNMAT externals which can be downloaded at http://cnmat.berkeley.edu/downloads

The packets are then sent out with the Max object "udpwrite".

Let me know if you need any assistance, I have a lot of examples.




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weevil

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Jan 11, 2010, 7:26:23 PM1/11/10
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It's looking like we might use something simpler, even though we have
max4live.. There's a couple of mac apps that do this without having to
make your own patch. One is called MIDIviaOSC and the other one is
OSCulator. I'm testing them now to see which one works better.

On Jan 11, 1:49 pm, Anthony Palomba <apalo...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> Yes, you can. You need to create a M4L patch that takes MIDI data,
> or M4L control data, and formats it for OSC and then sends it
> via UDP.
>

> OSC formatting is done wiht CNMAT externals which can be downloaded athttp://cnmat.berkeley.edu/downloads


>
> The packets are then sent out with the Max object "udpwrite".
>
> Let me know if you need any assistance, I have a lot of examples.
>
> Anthony
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 11:54 AM, weevil <wileywg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Does anyone on here have any knowledge of Max4Live and how you use it
> > to get OSC out of Ableton Live? I'm going to be using it to control
> > vdmx and I need a crash course. I seem to remember someone on here
> > being a Max person (Gurzil?).
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weevil

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Jan 12, 2010, 10:15:08 AM1/12/10
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I've got ableton talking to vdmx with OSC now, which is good. Now I
have to consider how I am going to get it to talk to two VDMX machines
at once. Do you think I can I have two OSC clients listening at once,
and then just have the two seats of VDMX react to different notes?

Anthony Palomba

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Jan 12, 2010, 11:00:12 AM1/12/10
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I guess you could. Would it not be easier to have the OSC messages
tagged differently? Like "VDMX1/on", this assumes the VDMX machines can listen for a
particular OSC tag. Not to familiar with VDMX machines.


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weevil

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Jan 12, 2010, 1:28:07 PM1/12/10
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I'm not familiar with tagging in OSC, I'll look it up. VDMX uses a
full implementation of OSC from my understanding.
I've only dealt with midi before, and OSC is still all very new to me.
It seems very flexible, though!

On Jan 12, 10:00 am, Anthony Palomba <apalo...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> I guess you could. Would it not be easier to have the OSC messages
> tagged differently? Like "VDMX1/on", this assumes the VDMX machines can
> listen for a
> particular OSC tag. Not to familiar with VDMX machines.
>
> Anthony
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:15 AM, weevil <wileywg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I've got ableton talking to vdmx with OSC now, which is good. Now I
> > have to consider how I am going to get it to talk to two VDMX machines
> > at once. Do you think I can I have two OSC clients listening at once,
> > and then just have the two seats of VDMX react to different notes?
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Anthony Palomba

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Jan 12, 2010, 3:01:30 PM1/12/10
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By tag, I mean you can construct an OSC message with a specific string in it like,
"VDMX1/off". Of course the receiving device would need to look for this substring.

That's what's nice about doing it with M4L because you control all the logic.



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gurzil

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Jan 12, 2010, 3:12:11 PM1/12/10
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Just to follow up, I used Max a LONG time ago, for a very short
period. I did spend some time with pure data (pd) much more recently.

weevil

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Jan 13, 2010, 1:04:12 AM1/13/10
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I doubt I'm going to be able to learn Max4Live by the time of the
show.
I'll have to do some testing to see if I can get Live and MidiViaOsc
to send to two clients at once. If I can I don't think there will be
any problems, I'll just have one machine listening for certain notes
and some for others.

Someone also suggested setting up a wired ethernet network instead of
the ad hoc wireless I was going to, and sending OSC over multicast.
Which I sagely nodded at and pretended like I knew what he meant by
multicast.

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