How do I challenge Trance Gemini to a debate?

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M. Michael Musatov.

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Sep 17, 2009, 4:15:02 AM9/17/09
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Thank you.

M.MichaelMusatov

Trance Gemini

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Sep 18, 2009, 11:09:39 AM9/18/09
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What do want to debate and why do you want to debate me in particular?

On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:15 AM, M. Michael Musatov. <marty....@gmail.com> wrote:

Thank you.

M.MichaelMusatov





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M.MichaelMusatov

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Sep 19, 2009, 6:33:15 PM9/19/09
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M.Michael Musatov:
Dear Trance Gemini,

I would like to debate you on the existence of first cause creation,
and how even if it does not exist the act of willfully denying this
possibility impedes perception and progress.

I choose to debate you as you are one of the few who in the past has
held him or her self-accountable to logic and fair rules of debate
minded toward it.

Sincerely,
M. Michael Musatov

Trance Gemini

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Sep 19, 2009, 8:50:32 PM9/19/09
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On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 6:33 PM, M.MichaelMusatov <marty....@gmail.com> wrote:

M.Michael Musatov:
Trance Gemini wrote:
> What do want to debate and why do you want to debate me in particular?
>
> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:15 AM, M. Michael Musatov. <
> marty....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > M.MichaelMusatov
> >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Agent 000767139875432.  Mange Inciter. Special Services.
> EAC Department of Linquistic Subversion.
> Evil Anagrams Division.
>
>
>
> "potatoes vs tomatoes =grapes logic of fools." --Stonethatbleeds

Dear Trance Gemini,

I would like to debate you on the existence of first cause creation,
and how even if it does not exist the act of willfully denying this
possibility impedes perception and progress.

I'm not really qualified to debate this, Michael. I suggest you find someone else on the site.

Thanks for your interest anyway.
 

I choose to debate you as you are one of the few who in the past has
held him or her self-accountable to logic and fair rules of debate
minded toward it.

Sincerely,
M. Michael Musatov


Musatov

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Sep 20, 2009, 7:38:40 AM9/20/09
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Musatov <scri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sep 19, 5:50 pm, Trance Gemini <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 6:33 PM, M.MichaelMusatov
> <marty.musa...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > M.Michael Musatov:
> > Trance Gemini wrote:
> > > What do want to debate and why do you want to debate me in particular?
>
> > > On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:15 AM, M. Michael Musatov. <
> > > marty.musa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Thank you.
>
> > > > M.MichaelMusatov
>
> > > --
> > > Agent 000767139875432.  Mange Inciter. Special Services.
> > > EAC Department of Linquistic Subversion.
> > > Evil Anagrams Division.
>
> > > "potatoes vs tomatoes =grapes logic of fools." --Stonethatbleeds
>
> > Dear Trance Gemini,
>
> > I would like to debate you on the existence of first cause creation,
> > and how even if it does not exist the act of willfully denying this
> > possibility impedes perception and progress.
>
> I'm not really qualified to debate this, Michael. I suggest you find someone
> else on the site.
Are you not the moderator of a forum debating the tenets central to
the issue?
>
> Thanks for your interest anyway.
>
Thank you for writing but I have not conceded my efforts to engage and
will not quite
so easily, as you were a polite bulldog in the past and much more
enjoyable of a
challenge as you were.

Take it to this:

They brought comfort to my heart. May our God in His infinite goodness
bless

... for as His word says in Acts 1:7-8 " He said to them [Jesus], it
is not for

... Please know I do not mean to offend, but only to speak the truth
in love. ...
>
>
> > I choose to debate you as you are one of the few who in the past has
> > held him or her self-accountable to logic and fair rules of debate
> > minded toward it.
>
> > Sincerely,
> > M. Michael Musatov
>
> --
> Agent 000767139875432.  Mange Inciter. Special Services.
> EAC Department of Linquistic Subversion.
> Evil Anagrams Division.
>
> "potatoes vs tomatoes =grapes logic of fools." --Stonethatbleeds
And that is the truth in all of this. I only seek truth and what' s
good for people.

That's really what 'God' is to me. The rest is just a name it could be
anything.

Call it not that God exists even, just a discussion debate in truth.

If (or) you choose (not)_may)_I) ask what you would debate?

May I have a list of issue[s] of which you are qualified?

Or is it me? If it is I apologize [but only if I have done something
that has caused harm and I do not realize]

M.M.M.

Trance Gemini

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Sep 20, 2009, 8:09:57 AM9/20/09
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On Sep 20, 7:38 am, Musatov <scribe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>  Musatov <scribe...@yahoo.com>   wrote:
> On Sep 19, 5:50 pm, Trance Gemini <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 6:33 PM, M.MichaelMusatov
> > <marty.musa...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > M.Michael Musatov:
> > > Trance Gemini wrote:
> > > > What do want to debate and why do you want to debate me in particular?
>
> > > > On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:15 AM, M. Michael Musatov. <
> > > > marty.musa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Thank you.
>
> > > > > M.MichaelMusatov
>
> > > > --
> > > > Agent 000767139875432.  Mange Inciter. Special Services.
> > > > EAC Department of Linquistic Subversion.
> > > > Evil Anagrams Division.
>
> > > > "potatoes vs tomatoes =grapes logic of fools." --Stonethatbleeds
>
> > > Dear Trance Gemini,
>
> > > I would like to debate you on the existence of first cause creation,
> > > and how even if it does not exist the act of willfully denying this
> > > possibility impedes perception and progress.
>
> > I'm not really qualified to debate this, Michael. I suggest you find someone
> > else on the site.
>
> Are you not the moderator of a forum debating the tenets central to
> the issue?

Yes, but that doesn't mean I'm qualified to debate everything.

I stick to the topics that I know something about as do others.
No you haven't caused harm but I'm afraid I find it difficult to
follow your points and that will make it difficult to debate with you.

For example, I have no idea what point your trying to make with your
Acts quote.

A lot of what you post is spam-like and incomprehensible.

>
> M.M.M.

M.MichaelMusatov

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Sep 20, 2009, 12:07:40 PM9/20/09
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Musatov wrote:
Trance Gemini wrote:
> On Sep 20, 7:38 am, Musatov <scribe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >  Musatov <scribe...@yahoo.com>   wrote:
> > On Sep 19, 5:50 pm, Trance Gemini <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 6:33 PM, M.MichaelMusatov
> > > <marty.musa...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> > > > M.Michael Musatov:
> > > > Trance Gemini wrote:
> > > > > What do want to debate and why do you want to debate me in particular?
> >
[I answered this]
> > > > > On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:15 AM, M. Michael Musatov. <
> > > > > marty.musa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > Thank you.
> >
> > > > > > M.MichaelMusatov
> >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Agent 000767139875432.  Mange Inciter. Special Services.
> > > > > EAC Department of Linquistic Subversion.
> > > > > Evil Anagrams Division.
> >
> > > > > "potatoes vs tomatoes =grapes logic of fools." --Stonethatbleeds
> >
> > > > Dear Trance Gemini,
> >
> > > > I would like to debate you on the existence of first cause creation,
> > > > and how even if it does not exist the act of willfully denying this
> > > > possibility impedes perception and progress.
> >
> > > I'm not really qualified to debate this, Michael. I suggest you find someone
> > > else on the site.
> >
Are you not the moderator of a forum debating the tenets central to
the issue?

>
> Yes, but that doesn't mean I'm qualified to debate everything.
>
[I did not ask you to debate 'everything'. Are you 12?

> I stick to the topics that I know
[I can make myself look good with]
something about as do others.[Do unto]
>
> >
> > > Thanks for your interest anyway.
[I am mocking you to your face brainless atheist + I have faith and a
college education - I run a search engine used in 78 countries
worldwide and have written a produced $5MM movie. Are you going to
seriously try to pose me?]
> >
> > Thank you for writing but I have not conceded my efforts to engage and
> > will not quite
> > so easily, as you were a polite bulldog in the past and much more
> > enjoyable of a
> > challenge as you were.
> >
> > Take it to this:
> >
> > They brought comfort to my heart. May our God in His infinite goodness
> > bless
> >
... for as His word says in Acts 1:7-8 " He said to them Jesus, it
is not for
> >
> > ... Please know I do not mean to offend, but only to speak the truth
> > in love. ...
> >
> > > > I choose to debate you as you are one of the few who in the past has
> > > > held him or her self-accountable to logic and fair rules of debate
> > > > minded toward it.
> >
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > > M. Michael Musatov
> >
> > > --
> > > Agent 000767139875432.  Mange Inciter. Special Services.
> > > EAC Department of Linquistic Subversion.
> > > Evil Anagrams Division.
> >
> > > "potatoes vs tomatoes =grapes logic of fools." --Stonethatbleeds
> >
> > And that is the truth in all of this.  I only seek truth and what' s
> > good for people.
> >
> > That's really what 'God' is to me. The rest is just a name it could be
> > anything.
> >
> > Call it not that God exists even, just a discussion debate in truth.
> >
> > If (or) you choose (not)_may)_I) ask what you would debate?
> >
> > May I have a list of issue[s] of which you are qualified?
> >
Again you did answer[not]:

you will lose or be humiliated, and if you claim principal
You still lose

> > Or is it me? If it is I apologize [but only if I have done something
> > that has caused harm and I do not realize]
>
> No

[Great moving on]

you haven't caused harm but I'm afraid

Again? Of what?

I find it difficult to
[follow your points and that will make it difficult to debate with
you.

[Trance you're a child: 'I'm afraid because I see you as incompetent.'
Uh-uh sweetie]

~more or less says you are a fraud~

(Or)you are defeated

> For example, I have no idea what point your trying to make with your
> Acts quote.

Well then perhaps it was not for you, but let me explain:

[S a y. I t. s l o w. f o r. T r an c e. m o d e ]

If a group of people constantly keep track of perceptions by a mixture
of letters and numbers as the Hebrew did when they deduct[ed] the name
of God and made him 'of Israel'1:1 'In the beginning'

After this happens


1. Then the basic notion is all things art created by the 'word of
God' [of] God of thy word;
All things exist.

2. And the basic set theory 1:1, 1;2, chapter:verse in religious texts
subbing in and out mathematics/language and the numbers we see in
various religions:

99 virgins, 144,000 12 tribes of Israel * 12*12=144 666
6+4=10
666+444=1110.

Something + something else less by two

3 of that something in a row + 3 of that something else less than by
two

6+4=10
6+4=10
+6+4=10
-------
$30 pieces of silver for Judas

number of the beast, etc.
... for as His word says in Acts 1:7-8
He said to them: "It is not for you to know the times [or dates the
Father has set by his own authority. But you will receive power when
the Holy.]

So if Jesus was right then a man cannot know these things.

If Jesus was wrong then: [ A man may know the future]

The point is he has three + pinned in logic.

Either he is right or you have to predict the future to prove he was
wrong.

The future is not known.

Therefore he [was] and [is] right.

Quod Erat Demonstratum

just brain lazy
[Are you] it is all you have shown
You know Trance a lot of idiots say things such as
> "A lot of what you post is spam-like and incomprehensible.[To me because I am Trance Gemini and I am a coward and stupid.]
>
> >
> > .

Bye ya' big dummy.

Trance Gemini

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Sep 20, 2009, 12:17:25 PM9/20/09
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Thanks for the demonstration. <rolls eyes>

I rest my case.

Bye. :-)
 

Dead Kennedy

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Sep 21, 2009, 9:18:40 AM9/21/09
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cant we have a peanut gallery on this one?

On 20 Sep, 16:17, Trance Gemini <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 12:07 PM, M.MichaelMusatov
> <marty.musa...@gmail.com>wrote:

Trance Gemini

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Sep 21, 2009, 12:52:42 PM9/21/09
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On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Dead Kennedy <dead.k...@googlemail.com> wrote:

cant we have a peanut gallery on this one?

Sure the entire main site is a peanut gallery. Lol.
 
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