Picking on "The South"

[robin shepherd]

What often goes unnoticed in conventional history textbooks is the
religious hysteria by the evangelical movement at various times in our
history, tilting the impetus of timely events into the left-wing fold
of (what we properly might call) trouble-makers.

This includes such liberal and left-wing agitators in the recurring
gospelist movements as William Jennings Bryan (a rabble-rousing Bible-
thumping Baptist), D.L. Moody, a heavy-set liberal and Chicago friend
of Lincoln. Even the abolitionist Charles Finney, another great
demagogue and evangelical activist, promoting what led to the John
Brown (and other Bible-thumping zealots) who invaded the Old South,
leading to warfare and the greatest effusion of blood in our nation's
history.

Were these abolitionist (left wing evangelicals) really the true
heroes, with their moralistic superiority, their poor man's envy of
the supposedly wicked, wealthy South?

If the South fired first (on Sumter), it was these hypocritical,
holier-than-thou evangelicals, in their abolitionist superiority, who
verbally started the war, in their violent strident sermons, their
evangelical "rallies" denouncing the sin of the South, the slave-
holding, the vast brothel, so-called.

No one doubts that American gospelism has a positive side, witness so
many fine outreaches, the countless humble social uplift or
amelioration efforts with biblical (faith-based) origins, not to
mention the Universities, Hospitals, Clinics, and innumerable other
institutions with Christian roots or founding. But face it, the
evangelical fanatacism sometimes boils over into political activism,
as it did with Abolitionism. In the case of the prejudice against the
South, slaveholding was demonized and scapegoated, portrayed as the
great Villain, somehow responsible for the murder of Lincoln himself.

[Trance Gemini]

Robin.

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[Dev]

Is that you, huck?

Yes, there were religious abolitionists--statistically speaking, there
had to be for abolition to take place. But the defense of slavery was
essentially entirely religious. I don't know why you mentioned Bryant--
he wasn't a political force until long after the Civil War.

Sorry huck. I suspect you're huck because this post is amazingly
ignorant of US history.

[Dev]

If you want to close this thread, Trance, I understand. I suspect
robin is a hucktard (did I just make that word up, because it came so
naturally) because robin doesn't understand US history, so I responded
in a way to try to get "robin" to reveal its POV in more detail before
refuting too much, but nevermind that. Sorry if I jumped the gun.

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[Trance Gemini]

On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 11:21 PM, Dev <thede...@fastmail.fm> wrote:

If you want to close this thread, Trance, I understand. I suspect
robin is a hucktard (did I just make that word up, because it came so
naturally) because robin doesn't understand US history, so I responded
in a way to try to get "robin" to reveal its POV in more detail before
refuting too much, but nevermind that. Sorry if I jumped the gun.

Lol. No. We're not closing threads here. I'm just asking people nicely.

No biggie.

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