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Jun 12, 2024, 4:26:30 AM6/12/24
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Well the first thing is try to figure out are they initiating or doing something against the rules or illegal. Sadly the word "initiation" is used for both as a way to justify doing something against the rules or illegal.

If it's something bad that goes against rules / law it's hard to stop because of that cycle has been created. The upperclassmen went through it as freshmen and now it's their turn to do it to others. So when someone comes in wanting to stop it they feel cheated out of that chance to have these young guys prove they can take it and belong. By no means am I saying this is right but that is the mentality. I hate to say this but when I was in high school the thing the upperclassmen did to us in football was turn off the lights in the locker room and beat the **** out of us, give us wedgies until the underwear rip off or both. I had it happen to me and while I didn't like it I didn't see it as a big deal because that is the way things were. When I became a senior I did it to the younger guys too. I didn't get it and nobody was telling me differently. Now that I'm older and I'm a little smarter I see how and why this stuff is bad. It shouldn't take place.

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Now I do feel there is a place for making a younger / newer player "earn" his spot on the team but it needs to be done in a productive way. For example when the NFL tapes a rookie to the goal post or they make him stand up in lunch and sing his alma mater fight song - those are harmless things IF they are followed up with actually allowing this person onto the team in terms of chemistry.

I think you raise valid questions and have valid concerns concerning your son. If it's something stupid like walk up to a hot girl on campus and cluck like a chicken let it go. But if it's things against the rules / law then something needs to be done. That atmosphere needs to be gutted from the team.

My son has never mentioned college initiations whether it's baseball or the frat he joined. I can just imagine the frat initiation. Mine was hell. My college baseball initiation involved an ice bucket surprise in the shower. Then being pinned down and covered with shaving cream.

I do know in high school my son had to cross dress like a cheerleader for a day when he made varsity soccer and baseball. My daughter had to dress like a hooker for a day in high school when she made her varsity sports. The kids always laughed it off as part of the process and a badge of honor making varsity. But the high school ended initiations when a parent refused to let his daughter dress like a hooker.

Interesting topic, with all of the recent headlines, regarding the NFL Miami Dolphins....as well with the recent initiatives (commercials, etc.) regarding bullying, hazing....as stated before the line to cross is razor thin at times.

My son is a 2017 Freshman, and a few weeks ago, this exact topic "hit the fan"...they some of the Freshman were told to put "Icy Hot" in their jock straps and keep them on all practice, and on a separate day they were told to smoke those vapor / electronic cigarettes....I am pretty active in the baseball community in our region, so I was informed by another parent, not my son (he would never tell me).

My personal opinion, is those days are / should be pretty much over....a few bad apples routinely crossed the line too many times, and the public / schools are tired (as they should be) of "initiating" (a nice word for hazing / bullying) going too far, and causing serious harm. I'm old enough to remember the scenes from "Brian's Song" where the NFL rookies were "initiated"....too much to risk these days, and schools / coaches should not tolerate it, or even allow "kids" decide what is appropriate or not.

I am all for Freshman earning their stripes, so make them carry the equipment bags, drag the field, carry the Igloo coolers filled with water / ice, etc....other than those types of things, I am not too fond of it. I made it very clear to my son, what I expect / allow him to participate in.

At my son's high school the AD made sure all parents knew that making freshmen carry the equipment bags is not hazing. If we ever get that strict, it will be a sad state of affairs. They also made the underclassmen shag the foul balls during games. Big whoop.

Young men do stupid things. Your son's team better hope that the AD or Coach doesn't get wind of any initiations especially under today's sports news crazy world. I became aware of a situation a few years ago that resulted in some serious team discipline after the coach found out about initiations. I don't know if it reached the AD level. These initiations were dangerous (no alcohol involved) and did make many players uncomfortable.

Following that initiation incident a few years ago, there were no subsequent initiation rituals according to my friend. Seriously, I would advise the freshmen to refuse & stick to together if they determine this initiation is out of bounds. JMO. Good luck.

Our state High School League takes "initiations" quite seriously. For those who participate it can mean a 12 month suspension from all High School League activities (sports, debate, band, etc). At the start of their HS years (first participation), students are required to read, initial, and sign that they've read and understand the states policies. There is a 24/7/365 zero tolerance policy towards drugs and alcohol use and restrictions against hazing and other activities. My state and local school districts are pretty good at enforcing this and it has cleanup up HS extracurricular activities quite a bit. The section on hazing follows:

Why is it immoral? To do it for a day and be the butt of jokes is just amusement. It's an initiation even rookies in pro ball experience. At least the high school kids are only in their schools. The MLBers have to travel that way for a day.

Regarding girl's normal day to day attire, I knew what season is was by the sweats my daughter wore to school. And her hair was always in a pony tail. When I saw her come downstairs on prom night in a gown and her hair down she was almost unrecognizable. Fortunately with three high school sports and travel softball she didn't have time for boyfriends.

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