Frecciarossa Business Area Silenzio

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Brigitta Martini

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Aug 3, 2024, 4:32:02 PM8/3/24
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ROMA - Il silenzio diventa Standard. Dopo la Business, la carrozza del silenzio adesso disponibile anche nel livello Standard dei Frecciarossa di Trenitalia. Da alcuni mesi in corso l'attrezzaggio delle carrozze 8 degli ETR.400 e 11 degli ETR.500, rispettivamente Frecciarossa 1000 e Frecciarossa, con l'applicazione di vistosi adesivi sui finestrini lato interno e sulle pareti di estremit nonch mediante la copertura dei poggiatesta con foderine che ricordano ai passeggeri che ci si trova nella carrozza del silenzio.

In questa area, in Standard come in Business, richiesto di rispettare il silenzio e il relax dei passeggeri, "vietando" quindi conversazioni sia telefoniche che con altri passeggeri o l'ascolto di musica mediante altoparlanti.
In occasione di questi interventi anche per il livello Business in corso un rinnovamento e incremento delle info grafiche di bordo mirato ad aumentare la visibilit di quest'area, spesso non rispettata dagli occupanti.

Al momento in cui scriviamo circa il 70% del parco Frecciarossa ha ricevuto questa modifica che a breve verr estesa a tutti i restanti ETR.400 e ETR.500. A regime l'offerta prevede 13 mila posti al giorno sui Frecciarossa in area silenzio Standard.
C' da sperare che i passeggeri rispettino "il silenzio" in queste carrozze dedicate, a cui si potr accedere con un costo del biglietto leggermente superiore alla Standard ordinaria.

After four nights in Venice it was time to head to Milan. We took Trenitalia for this journey, which is the primary rail operator in Italy. This was our first of two train rides in Italy, and I was impressed by the comfort, value, and punctuality, offered by Trenitalia.

I was impressed by the punctuality of both of our Trenitalia journeys. The trains left exactly on schedule, to the second. Our first train ended up having a 16 minute delay enroute, but I was also pleasantly surprised by how many updates were provided about this.

Our tickets were checked by a friendly attendant about 20 minutes after departure. We could simply show the email confirmation from our tickets, so there was no need to check-in otherwise. Interestingly we also needed to present proof of vaccination.

About 10 minutes later the service began. We were offered our choice of three snacks, including crackers, cookies, or biscoffs. We were also offered a selection of complimentary drinks, seemingly with no limits (in the sense that they kept asking us if we wanted anything else).

Trenitalia offered a great experience for getting between Venice and Milan. The trains were clean, service friendly, and the value was quite good for what it was. Getting around Europe by train is simply so much more pleasant than flying, especially for short distance.

I'll be in Italy in May, traveling with my wife and baby. We will have two checked-in luggage (28-30 in), probably another rolling carry-on (20-22 in), and a stroller with car seat for the baby. Our plan is to take train from Firenze to Milan, and our chief concern is the luggage.
Will there be enough space for us on the rack for our stuff? What seats should we pick so we are close...

I'll be in Italy in May, traveling with my wife and baby. We will have two checked-in luggage (28-30 in), probably another rolling carry-on (20-22 in), and a stroller with car seat for the baby. Our plan is to take train from Firenze to Milan, and our chief concern is the luggage.
Will there be enough space for us on the rack for our stuff? What seats should we pick so we are close to the luggage rack? I don't necessarily need the executive, but will consider it the business area has no space for all our stuff within viewing distance from our seats.
Any thoughts or advice would be appreciated.

Well, it's a few years since I got onto the train in Milan to go to Venice but I will start at the beginning. We had taken our travel agent's advice at home, and felt sure she knew what she was doing. She assured us that this was a cheap way of getting to Venice. Manchester by plane to Milan and then Milan to Venice by train. So we got to the station in Milan,...

Well, it's a few years since I got onto the train in Milan to go to Venice but I will start at the beginning. We had taken our travel agent's advice at home, and felt sure she knew what she was doing. She assured us that this was a cheap way of getting to Venice. Manchester by plane to Milan and then Milan to Venice by train. So we got to the station in Milan, it was cold and as i opened my handbag for my gloves my companion was assuring me it would get warmer and then I felt this not a hand but 'something' not quite right. I looked for my companion to see this other young man (about 25 or so) with his hand in my bag. He had found my purse straightaway and then he ran out towards a piece of empty land nearby. "Leave it love"
I heard someone say. But I did find the young man who still had my purse in his hands. When Anne gets annoyed God help anyone nearby. I ran after him, I didn't know if he had a knife or anything like it I just shouted like hell at him and afterwards I realised he hadn't a clue what I was saying. A small group had accumulated at the bus stop:they were saying theft often happened, was I OK, where was I going. But as I joined my companion I looked in my purse and all that was in there was a couple of coins so I did a bit of slapping around his head, I didn't half belt him and he just wandered off.
Not a lot of money but my companion was holding most of our money. A young girl ran up to me, she had heard I was English and asked me where I was going. I said Venice. She took me to the train and in 20 minutes the train would be off. We were disappointed we didn't have more time to get to know one another, but she did show me the toilets inside the station jeje. The train started to move and as I sat down on a seat it was so lovely and clean and comfortable. The train chuffed along the track and I was now so relaxed and looking forward to Venice. I was truly knackered.

Did I see anything of the country as the train went through the area. Yes and I can remember there was a stop before we got to Venice. It brought memories of a young girl standing on a balcony with a young man singing below. Not sure whether i was right on that one or whether it was my imagination working overtime. But yes it was a memorable journey, an exciting one (I suppose)!!!

We have already booked our hotel for Rome and Christmas hoping to do a rail journey whilst we are there:we have already been to Pompei so maybe a bit further up the leg.
I live in Gandia in Spain and although I have been to Venice a few times since and I understand that Lucretia Borgia died in a convent in Venice. Gandia is where the Borgia family lived I havent got very far with where the convent is in Venice yet... but still working on it.
Thank you for an exciting journey

Nice review Ben - this brings back some very pleasant memories from traveling around Italy via train. Trenitalia is a great value and I agree - the cost to upgrade to business class is usually worth it. For afternoon/evening trips, we would book a table on the two abreast side of the train and bring a bottle of wine onboard, which the attendants seemed totally fine with. The views on the Naples-Rome-Florence corridor are stunning....

Nice review Ben - this brings back some very pleasant memories from traveling around Italy via train. Trenitalia is a great value and I agree - the cost to upgrade to business class is usually worth it. For afternoon/evening trips, we would book a table on the two abreast side of the train and bring a bottle of wine onboard, which the attendants seemed totally fine with. The views on the Naples-Rome-Florence corridor are stunning. We did have a situation once where our train was delayed due to a mechanical problem with the brakes, but the crew was incredibly apologetic and communicative. Overall fantastic experience!

Even better - take the Frecciarosa (Trenitalia website) and book into Executive Class. You can also book the private meeting room included in the cost of the seats (somebody else didn't get there before you)...;)

It is all regulated and seemed to be pretty straightforward when we were there, so I don't think you are going to have to worry. You can also take a "bus" instead of a taxi. We stayed at the Molino Stucky and used the bus almost exclusively

I just noticed they appear to booked out for the first week of September 2022 (which coincides with the film festival, which starts on Wednesday 1 September) - so there could be other times when its could be hard to book (such as the Rendentore Fiesta in July).

I agree that Trenitalia is generally nice and reliable, in particular their Frecciarossa product (the local/regional services can be a rather mixed experience, as well as Frecciargento and Frecciabianco). Frecciarossa Executive is amazing though ...

This particular train type is the doomed FYRA train that the Dutch Railways bought in 2008 and turned out to be a disaster. I rode it once in the 45 days it ran (after it was taken out of service) and found it pretty decent.

Also check requirements before you go. Mask requirements are going away in many countries (as are vaccine requirements) and it is changing quickly. I have a trip in May to Iceland and Sweden and both countries have basically eliminated any COVID restrictions. I will likely still travel with my vaccine card and have a few masks just in case but may not be needed at all.

I have been on the Trenitalia Business and Executive classes, I loved them. Then again I am a big sucker for trains in Europe and Japan, so every time I have to visit a smaller city I'd rather fly to CDG and take the train.

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