ATC-SIM POLL

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Alex Thomas

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Apr 21, 2015, 9:56:04 AM4/21/15
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Hey y'all,

Here it is...

The new ATC-SIM POLL Website.


Jay and I will post polls for new airports and such on here, and you can vote on your favorites and suggest new additions.

Jay Link

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Apr 21, 2015, 10:29:32 AM4/21/15
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Looks great, Alex! Let's see what the people choose.

You could have a separate poll for features.
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Alex Thomas

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Apr 21, 2015, 11:31:56 AM4/21/15
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Yes...I'll add that once I finish tweaking the response system on the first poll.


On Tuesday, April 21, 2015 at 10:29:32 AM UTC-4, JayLink1971 wrote:
Looks great, Alex! Let's see what the people choose.

You could have a separate poll for features.

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Hey y'all,

Here it is...

The new ATC-SIM POLL Website.


Jay and I will post polls for new airports and such on here, and you can vote on your favorites and suggest new additions.

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Alex Thomas

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Apr 21, 2015, 7:23:15 PM4/21/15
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Jay,

Now that I'm finished fixing the first poll, what kinds of items should I add to the features poll?

Jay Link

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Apr 21, 2015, 7:36:08 PM4/21/15
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Ah, jeez. Chained commands is always #1.

How about:

Chained commands

Fixing improper exit problems (corner cutting)

Member area to change passwords and view personal scores.

Ability to change takeoff runway

More realistic flight performance models

Weather

Emergencies

Military airports

Tablet & smartphone versions

Separate ground control sim:

   A.  ASDE style  (realistic)

   B.  Game style  (more cartoony)


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Jay,

Now that I'm finished fixing the first poll, what kinds of items should I add to the features poll?

On Tuesday, April 21, 2015 at 11:31:56 AM UTC-4, Alex Thomas wrote:
Yes...I'll add that once I finish tweaking the response system on the first poll.

On Tuesday, April 21, 2015 at 10:29:32 AM UTC-4, JayLink1971 wrote:
Looks great, Alex! Let's see what the people choose.

You could have a separate poll for features.

On Tuesday, April 21, 2015, Alex Thomas <tale...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey y'all,

Here it is...

The new ATC-SIM POLL Website.


Jay and I will post polls for new airports and such on here, and you can vote on your favorites and suggest new additions.

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Jay Link

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Apr 21, 2015, 7:38:48 PM4/21/15
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Also:

Should more be done with Twitter, such as automatically posting new high scores, or is that annoying?

Alex Thomas

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Apr 22, 2015, 9:37:32 AM4/22/15
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Probably a no on the Twitter thing. I'll get the second poll up and running ASAP.
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Jay Link

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Apr 22, 2015, 9:42:56 AM4/22/15
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No worries, no hurry, I'm not going to be able to look at features until Monday at the earliest.

Thanks for your help!
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Alex Thomas

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Apr 22, 2015, 11:00:41 AM4/22/15
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Well, I've already got it up, so that's good. When do you want me to send you the results!
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Alex Thomas

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Apr 22, 2015, 11:03:35 AM4/22/15
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Sorry, meant to put a question mark there.

Also, would it be possible to put the link to the polling site on the main site so it could be more easily accessible?

Jay Link

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Apr 22, 2015, 11:13:21 AM4/22/15
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Ok, sure, but please allow me 24 hours on that.

What is the link to the features poll? Did you post that already?
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Alex Thomas

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Apr 22, 2015, 12:03:42 PM4/22/15
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Yes, I already posted it. It is on another page on the same website.
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Alex Thomas

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May 2, 2015, 7:19:24 AM5/2/15
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Hello everyone,

Sorry I was gone for a while. Anyways, the poll results will likely be tallied up around the end of the weekend or early next week, so speak your mind and cast your vote!

Alex Thomas

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May 7, 2015, 8:59:21 AM5/7/15
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Hey all,

The airport poll has closed on the website, and the results are in. Many different airports were requested, but the most popular are...

  1. Copenhagen
  2. Kansas City
  3. Bangkok
The features poll is still open, so make sure you cast your vote before it closes!

Adriano Lago

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May 7, 2015, 9:54:23 AM5/7/15
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Hi Alex,

I'm not able to vote. I'm trying since the first time you sent us the link.

Tks
Adriano

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May 7, 2015, 10:54:46 AM5/7/15
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Oh well. I was really hoping for Washington (DCA).

Joshua Overmiller

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Yeah, I wrote in for DCA as well.  Should we get all DCA fans together and pitch in for the $100 to get it done?

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Jay Link

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May 8, 2015, 8:28:15 AM5/8/15
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That one's not a $100 airport. But if it means a lot to all of you, I can prioritize it.

Joshua Overmiller

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Haha, Jay, I think we're just a vocal minority.  Do you mean it's not a $100 airport due to the extra effort of DCA?

In either case, the poll has been done and the people have spoken.  My bid to buy out the election results was facetious (although not without precedent in history of polls).

CHRIS MINNICH

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May 8, 2015, 9:57:29 AM5/8/15
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I'd love DCA- it's my home airport. 
 
As an aside, Jay, I don't weigh in much on the list serve, but thank you for all you do to keep this sim excellent.
 
Chris
 

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av8nut

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Jay was wanting to incorporate some sort of restricted airspace feature into the DCA airport when he did it in the future. Obviously, that would probably involve more work than just doing another airport as usual.
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Jay Link

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May 8, 2015, 10:56:00 AM5/8/15
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Right, that's what I was getting at. So DCA is more of a new feature rather than just another airport.
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Emjay

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May 9, 2015, 8:52:09 AM5/9/15
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I would love DCA too! 

Alex Thomas

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May 10, 2015, 8:25:18 PM5/10/15
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Hey everybody...

Sorry I was gone for I while. I have finals coming up that I have to study for, so I haven't had much time to check the forum or work on the website.

I am going to make a new poll, so does anyone have any suggestions on what the topic should be?

av8nut

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May 11, 2015, 9:21:49 AM5/11/15
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Alex,

I like the idea of polls, as it gets a majority vote on the the ideas and features everyone has been voicing about over the years. 

However, with all due respect to you and Jay, I am a little hesitant to recommend any ideas for a new poll because I am not sure what's actually going to get done, or what is possible, nor do most of us have any realistic time frame in knowing when to expect it. In other words, if there were a poll for new features, but the majority vote was for a feature that was going to take excessively long or was not even feasible or possible, it would be a waste of our vote.

Perhaps it would be more advantageous for Jay to do the polls, as he would have control of what he is willing and capable in doing, as well as knowing a realistic time frame for completion. Perhaps he could even include the time frame of completion in the feature poll (example: "change departure runway, 1 month") However, I would hate to put the burden on the developer to make the polls, as things come up in people's lives, out of our control. And he's suffered enough of the addicted disgruntled simmers out there in the past. Just a thought.

Personally, I would love to see a realistic looking ground control, but I recognize that this would take a lot longer than some simpler addition or change to the existing simulator, as the ground control would be a whole new sim. So I'll be patient. 

Av8nut

Alex Thomas

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May 11, 2015, 11:39:21 AM5/11/15
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av8nut,

Since I realize that this is more of a feasible plan (at least long-term), I think it may be a good idea to let Jay manage the website. However, I don't want to put any extra work on his shoulders. It might be possible to make the website creation platform accessible to certain approved users and Jay himself to create polls.

Also, I will not have much time this summer, as I will be playing baseball every week for the first 6 weeks and then be at a no-technology-allowed sleep-away camp for another 2 weeks. Not to put anyone in the spotlight, but if any of you are willing to manage the website for the time I'm at camp, I can give you the login and give you access to create polls and manage the site.

Alex Thomas

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May 15, 2015, 9:24:39 AM5/15/15
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Hello everyone,

The first two polls have come to a close. Both received over 100 votes! Now for the results. The most popular were...
  1. Chained commands
  1. Ability to change takeoff runway
  2. More realistic flight performance models
    Stay tuned as I will post new polls (hopefully by the start of next week)

    Stephen Alvania

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    Hi Jay,

     

    I’m a retired former air traffic controller and R&D program manager for FAA and I’ve been eavesdropping on the group’s conversation since I first downloaded your game a couple years ago. This is not an attempt to give a sales pitch but  I’d  like to suggest something that may be of interest to your members. Since retiring from FAA I’ve had a “hobby” business where I give on-site seminars explaining fundamental ATC structures and procedures to companies and organizations that are involved in developing  or enhancing ATC related technologies.  For the last year I’ve also been giving occasional 90 minute webinars that are focused on controller operations at the four ATC facility types: (1) Airport Traffic Control Tower , (2) TRACON, (3) the enroute ARTCC, and (4) the ATC System Command Center that oversees  the Traffic Flow Management and the Collaborative Decision Making functions.  While these webinars are slightly oriented towards technical industry professionals, the discussions are decidedly and intentionally non-technical and are appropriate for anyone with an interest in ATC operations .   

     

    The TRACON webinar may be of the most interest to the group.  The next webinar is on June 16th at 1:00  PM.  Attached is the TRACON Webinar flyer and the link is:  http://www.audiosolutionz.com/transportation/terminal-radar-approach-control.html?utm_source=SMA20

     

    For anyone interested in Airport Traffic Control Tower operations, I’m presenting that webinar topic on May 27th at 1:00 PM through a different site.  The link is:  https://www.compliance4all.com/control/w_product/~product_id=500367LIVE/~sel=LIVE/~Stephen_Alvania/~Airport_Traffic_Control_Tower_(ATCT)

     

    Just a suggestion.

     

    Thanks Jay.  I’m glad to see that your professional life is soaring.

     

    Stephen

    TRACON Webinar Flyer.HTML

    Stephen Alvania

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    From: Stephen Alvania [mailto:stephen...@ats-c.com]
    Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 12:55 AM
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    Hi Jay,

     

    I’m a retired former air traffic controller and R&D program manager for FAA and I’ve been eavesdropping on the group’s conversation since I first downloaded your game a couple years ago. This is not an attempt to give a sales pitch but  I’d  like to suggest something that may be of interest to your members. Since retiring from FAA I’ve had a “hobby” business where I give on-site seminars explaining fundamental ATC structures and procedures to companies and organizations that are involved in developing  or enhancing ATC related technologies.  For the last year I’ve also been giving occasional 90 minute webinars that are focused on controller operations at the four ATC facility types: (1) Airport Traffic Control Tower , (2) TRACON, (3) the enroute ARTCC, and (4) the ATC System Command Center that oversees  the Traffic Flow Management and the Collaborative Decision Making functions.  While these webinars are slightly oriented towards technical industry professionals, the discussions are decidedly and intentionally non-technical and are appropriate for anyone with an interest in ATC operations .   

     

    The TRACON webinar may be of the most interest to the group.  The next webinar is on June 16th at 1:00  PM.  Attached is the TRACON Webinar flyer and the link is:  http://www.audiosolutionz.com/transportation/terminal-radar-approach-control.html?utm_source=SMA20

     

    For anyone interested in Airport Traffic Control Tower operations, I’m presenting that webinar topic on May 27th at 1:00 PM through a different site.  The link is:  https://www.compliance4all.com/control/w_product/~product_id=500367LIVE/~sel=LIVE/~Stephen_Alvania/~Airport_Traffic_Control_Tower_(ATCT)

     

    Just a suggestion.

     

    Thanks Jay.  I’m glad to see that your professional life is soaring.

     

    Stephen

     

     

     

     

     

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    That one's not a $100 airport. But if it means a lot to all of you, I can prioritize it.

    On Friday, May 8, 2015, Joshua Overmiller <overm...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Alex Thomas

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    May 28, 2015, 8:28:26 AM5/28/15
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    Attention everyone,

    New improvements are being made to the polling website. Firstly, I have added live feeds of airports so you can watch for traffic patterns and such. Also, I am working on a new poll, which will be released on Monday. Stay tuned for more updates, because there is surely much more to come!

    Alex Thomas

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    Hello everyone,

    After finishing my final exams and troubleshooting the website issues, the new poll is finally up and running! Most of the things on the poll are minor fixes, but if there's anything that you want to see added, feel free to speak your mind! As a reminder, you can find all the polls at http://atc-sim.weebly.com/.

    Happy controlling,

    Alex

    Alex Thomas

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    Jun 18, 2015, 9:51:17 AM6/18/15
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    Hello all,

    Only a couple of days remain in the current poll! If you are planning on voting, please go ahead and do so while you have the chance! Also, I would like to share some preliminary results with everybody. Many simmers are in favor of updating runways (e.g. runway extensions and closures), while quite a few others want to see new aircraft (A350s, 787s). If you think you have a good idea for ATC-SIM, go to the poll now and speak your mind!

    Happy flying,

    Alex

    Alex Thomas

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    Jun 23, 2015, 8:03:27 AM6/23/15
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    Alright everybody,

    The poll results are finally in! A whopping 39.4% of users voted for runway updates, which would mean closing old runways, building new ones, extending existing ones (you get the picture). Almost 30% voted for new aircraft/fleet updates (new aircraft orders and retirements).

    Also, I will not be able to do any work on the site for the last 2 weeks of July. If anybody is interested in managing the site (even for just a couple of days), let me know and I will get you set up.

    av8nut

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    Jun 23, 2015, 4:16:25 PM6/23/15
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    30% on new aircraft/fleet updates??? Sounds like a lot of people would rather have a airline/airport management sim than ATC-SIM.

    For me, I could care less what type of aircraft is flying in my airspace, or whether or not certain airline mergers have been updated, or out-of-date flight numbers.

    Av8nut

    Roy Ryland

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    Jun 23, 2015, 6:49:08 PM6/23/15
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    I agree!!!  Airline updates, runway changes, etc. have nothing to with control ability..  You take what comes at you and "get 'er done" safely, efficiently and expeditiously!!  Some new airports would be nice, but no one is saying much about that.  KMCI, KPIT, KJAX, ....??? 
    Roy


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    Jay Link

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    Jun 23, 2015, 7:26:52 PM6/23/15
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    It's kind of funny to me:  I got the "arrivals cutting across corners" thing solved this morning, once and for all.

    It was the most important thing in the world a week ago, but now we're on to the next batch of things to gripe about.  :-)

    Alex Thomas

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    Jun 24, 2015, 2:17:53 PM6/24/15
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    Yeah...those were some of the top airports in one of the earlier polls, so they will be implemented sooner or later.

    av8nut

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    Jun 24, 2015, 2:40:33 PM6/24/15
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    Jay,

    Yes, we do appreciate what you have done. Yet, you have to agree with this - something is more noticeable when it's added, as opposed to taken away. Now that arrivals behave the way they should, that's great. But it's just not as noticeable as say, different colors for arrivals and departures, emergency arrivals, or altitude restrictions (hypothetically speaking of course). Now that would get you some compliments ;)


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