General Info.

[Eddie Murphy]

Hello Everyone I hope you are doing well both in business and in life. I know it has been awhile since we have had a gathering and with the rising tide of mistrust and miscommunication going around I personally can see why. 

For the first time in several years Wisconsin may very well have not one but to regional tournaments next tournament season. I for one am very excited about that. 

I know that some of you or maybe all it is hard to tell these days seek your own independence. You don't need or want any ones help. You are a mighty island of you. I am very old and very old school and I know that even the strongest most independent schools and clubs still need help and support. 

I am going to say this out right and if you take offense then perhaps you should take a very hard look in the mirror. Some of you taste some small bit of success. Then you forget where you came from or how you got to where you are. Respect for some of you has literally been thrown out the window.  Master Jay Kohl, Master Larry Struck, Mr. Doug Weisz, Mr. Brian Pesch and I with only maybe 2 exception are the reason that most of you can or at lease trying to teach Songahm Taekwondo, I personally have been in the ATA longer than all of them regardless of the rank they wear. I respect them as men, friend and family. I have had falling out and mixed words with most of them but my respect for them has never wavered. I have felt stabbed in the back by a couple of them and I let them know it. An we have always manage to rise above the pettiness as we worked toward our goals of helping change lives. We use to often test our student together so that they could get a sense of the unity that we had. We did compete both with and against each other but we always supported each other and even now we still do. 

I honestly feel that many of you have lost sight of what we do and why we do what we do. It is hard for me to understand the epic level of selfishness that I see going on right now. I often say that I am a minnow in a sea of whales. Because I have never tried to be big. I just want and still want my students to be awesome. I have had my students turn their backs on me, but challenge any of one of them prove that I have done that to them.

I still see us as a family. Every family has problems. If you are not willing to talk about them or even try to work them out they will always remain problems. My door is now and always will be open to any an all of you whether you think so or not. We cannot be enemies. 

I was told recently that I should stop trying to help and save some of you. By a very high rank in the ATA. My problem is even though I am told that is what I should do that is not my way. I think that we need to get together and see if we can reconnect as a family as a team. 

Just so we are clear these are my feeling I am not speaking for anyone else in the group just me. I am simply asking if there is anyone else that wants to be part of something bigger than themselves? 

Thank you all for reading this far. 

Sincerely 

MASTER EDDIE L MURPHY

YES I REALLY CARE WHAT YOU THINK                    

[Steve Allison]

Master Murphy,

I have been interested in the past and am still interested in having the Wisconsin School/Club Owners group be much more active/involved with each other. I know we have tried conference calls and high rank workouts to help us be more cohesive of a group, but those all fell away due to lack of participation. This Google Group was also setup to help facilitate communication, but it seems to go unused most of the time. Would a closed Facebook Group be better? I would be glad to set one up for us if that is a better means of communicating.

I would also love to hear what others think about this issue.

Steve

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[Eddie Murphy]

Sir, It sounds like a great idea to me, but I think all your suggestions are great. I commend you on the group email and the calendar that I am still trying to learn how to use. I support the idea, but that is the real issue. support.  

[ATA Martial Arts-Burlington,WI]

I like the closed Facebook Group idea.

Ryon K. Klein

Owner/Instructor

ATA Martial Arts - Klein's Black Belt Academy

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Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: General Info.

[Sabree3]

Mr. Allison,
A closed Facebook group would be great if it is used as a tool to communicate positively and network with WI owners. If it's used to post negative rants and what nots, then it will become just as useless as the school owners Google group has become. It's been months since useful information( i.e high rank tests, workouts student retention ideas etc) has been posted. Maybe something fresh will help shift the focus back to something more positive.

Mrs. Sabree

[Brian Pesch]

Well said.  My sentiments exactly.

Brian Pesch

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Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2015 12:09 AM
Subject: Re: General Info.

Mr. Allison,
    A closed Facebook group would be great if it is used as a tool to communicate positively and network with WI owners. If it's used to post negative rants and what nots, then it will become just as useless as the school owners Google group has become. It's been months since useful information( i.e high rank tests, workouts student retention ideas etc) has been posted. Maybe something fresh will help shift the focus back to something more positive.

Mrs. Sabree

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[Eddie Murphy]

That is a good point. I can say that a big part of that is due to the way information lately is being sent out from HQ. For example quick insert training seminars that cost us money. Which in most cases do not really give us ample time to respond. High Rank testing when they are scheduled are normally done months in advance. However the last one was announced at the regional tournament and if you were not standing right there when it was announced you would not have known. 

Just so that everyone knows if you are mid-terming for rank between 1st and 4th degree you can do that at any testing where the rank required is present with instructors permission  for example: if you are a 3rd degree mid-terming for 4th you can mid-term at any testing where there are at least 2 six degrees on the panel. If you are a 4th degree or higher you can only mid-term at a regional or national testing. 

      

[Glenn, Rick]

To expand on Master Murphy’s mid-term/rank testing comments.  You can find the following on the bottom of the “on-line testing” page:

The one that is not on this page.  A person can “retest” for 4^th degree and at any testing that has at least two 6^th degree’s on the testing panel.

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[Sabree3]

Master Murphy,
My point exactly. This is the forum to post information given out at the tournaments etc for those of us that didn't attend. There was nothing shared.....The reason I say this is because we ( Mr. Sabree and I) missed two high rank tests right here in Wisconsin because of lack of communication. We ended up spending more time and money traveling to a different state to do so when if we were better informed we would not have had to do so. That's just one example.

Mrs. Sabree