[astral_audio] First Mission!
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Allen Sale
May 12, 2010, 12:07:05 AM5/12/10
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In less than 24 hours, I will be in what is commonly known as the
"Garden State" for the foreseeable future. Computer communication will
be nonexistent while my shiny new pc arrives. To move things along a
bit, Zack needs your help. Attached is the first chapter of Dark
Worlds: Project 31. It has been color coded for each character
involved. Your job is to read the chapter and reply to this message
with feedback for Zack. (I'm opening the floor to other Astral Audio
Productions group members not directly involved to provide input.)
Tell our resident Mothman what works, what doesn't work, any
suggestions to make the reading experience easier. Your feedback will
shape how scripts are done for the remainder of the book. The sooner
you can give input, the sooner Zack can work his magic. The sooner
Zack can work his magic, the sooner you have lines. (See the pattern
yet?) When I burst back onto the scene, (which shouldn't be more than
a few weeks at most depending on how fast things are shipped), I will
lay out the plans for our first official (and then to be podcasted)
cast meeting. I expect to be back sooner than the three week window.
Michelle (@TheMishmo on Twitter) will update you if needed. Thanks for
your patience everyone!
"Make it so."
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"Garden State" for the foreseeable future. Computer communication will
be nonexistent while my shiny new pc arrives. To move things along a
bit, Zack needs your help. Attached is the first chapter of Dark
Worlds: Project 31. It has been color coded for each character
involved. Your job is to read the chapter and reply to this message
with feedback for Zack. (I'm opening the floor to other Astral Audio
Productions group members not directly involved to provide input.)
Tell our resident Mothman what works, what doesn't work, any
suggestions to make the reading experience easier. Your feedback will
shape how scripts are done for the remainder of the book. The sooner
you can give input, the sooner Zack can work his magic. The sooner
Zack can work his magic, the sooner you have lines. (See the pattern
yet?) When I burst back onto the scene, (which shouldn't be more than
a few weeks at most depending on how fast things are shipped), I will
lay out the plans for our first official (and then to be podcasted)
cast meeting. I expect to be back sooner than the three week window.
Michelle (@TheMishmo on Twitter) will update you if needed. Thanks for
your patience everyone!
"Make it so."
--
Allen Sale
Executive Producer
Astral Audio Productions
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Kimiko Alexandre
May 12, 2010, 4:46:38 AM5/12/10
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Do I actually have a part?
Andrew Richardson
May 12, 2010, 10:20:25 AM5/12/10
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Hi Allen:
I dont think I am in this first chapter either (Doug) ...
My suggestions are minor (I dont mind if you reject them!) , but here goes
1 ) I would prefer a rich text "email' type document instead of a pdf
- The way I read lines is using my smartphone to scroll through the
text as I am reading it, and pdf gives me less flexibility.
I know it probably sounds weird, but my "read the lines off the phone"
method saves on trees (I dont print anything) and the phone makes no
sound as I use it and scroll through text - its almost like my own
hand operated teleprompter!
2 ) Assuming you can use bright colors, it might be easier to
highlight the background of the text rather than the actual text color
itself
2 ) Can you publish a key of who is what color? I know we will all
learn which color is our own before too long, but it will help alert
me for when my moment in the spotlight arrives !!
As I have said several times - these are just suggestions - Keep 'em
or sweep 'em, as they say!
Enjoyed the promo and the associated banter by the way!
AndrewR
I dont think I am in this first chapter either (Doug) ...
My suggestions are minor (I dont mind if you reject them!) , but here goes
1 ) I would prefer a rich text "email' type document instead of a pdf
- The way I read lines is using my smartphone to scroll through the
text as I am reading it, and pdf gives me less flexibility.
I know it probably sounds weird, but my "read the lines off the phone"
method saves on trees (I dont print anything) and the phone makes no
sound as I use it and scroll through text - its almost like my own
hand operated teleprompter!
2 ) Assuming you can use bright colors, it might be easier to
highlight the background of the text rather than the actual text color
itself
2 ) Can you publish a key of who is what color? I know we will all
learn which color is our own before too long, but it will help alert
me for when my moment in the spotlight arrives !!
As I have said several times - these are just suggestions - Keep 'em
or sweep 'em, as they say!
Enjoyed the promo and the associated banter by the way!
AndrewR
Ashley Summerrow
May 12, 2010, 10:48:50 AM5/12/10
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Hello all,
Andrew made some good points. Although James Walker is in the first chapter, I don't think that I will be paying him (unless it is done in retrospect). I am looking forward to seeing how this all comes together.
Ashley Summerrow
Zack Daggy
May 12, 2010, 11:00:47 AM5/12/10
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Good points thus far. Keep them coming! :-)
Oh, and since Ashley brought it up, Allen and I are looking for someone that can do a voice of a little boy for the chapter. Anyone want to give it a shot?
Cheers,
Zack--
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Oh, and since Ashley brought it up, Allen and I are looking for someone that can do a voice of a little boy for the chapter. Anyone want to give it a shot?
Cheers,
Zack
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2009 - Named One Of The Top 100 Resources For Emerging Artists
2008 - Nominated For Best Music Podcast
Renee
May 12, 2010, 11:09:56 AM5/12/10
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Hi Zach (and everyone!)-
Since you asked for our input...
I don't think you need the dialogue attribution in a full-cast podcast
novel: "He said", etc. Since each voice is distinct in a full-cast
production, I've found it distracting to have the narrator's voice
break into a character's dialogue (even when I was the narrator!).
So for example, as is, the text reads:
Hyperventilating, Melissa ran into her son’s dimly lit bedroom.
“Jimmy, what’s wrong?” she asked, her voice
a bit higher than she had intended and shaking a bit.
You could revise this to:
Hyperventilating, Melissa ran into her son’s dimly lit bedroom.
"Jimmy, what's wrong?" Her voice shook and was a bit higher than she
had intended.
Hope that's helpful. If not, feel free to ignore it! :o)
Good luck with your move, Allen.
Everyone, I'm looking forward to both getting started and getting to
know you all!
Take care,
R.E. (Renee) Chambliss (playing Lilly Morgan)
Since you asked for our input...
I don't think you need the dialogue attribution in a full-cast podcast
novel: "He said", etc. Since each voice is distinct in a full-cast
production, I've found it distracting to have the narrator's voice
break into a character's dialogue (even when I was the narrator!).
So for example, as is, the text reads:
Hyperventilating, Melissa ran into her son’s dimly lit bedroom.
“Jimmy, what’s wrong?” she asked, her voice
a bit higher than she had intended and shaking a bit.
You could revise this to:
Hyperventilating, Melissa ran into her son’s dimly lit bedroom.
"Jimmy, what's wrong?" Her voice shook and was a bit higher than she
had intended.
Hope that's helpful. If not, feel free to ignore it! :o)
Good luck with your move, Allen.
Everyone, I'm looking forward to both getting started and getting to
know you all!
Take care,
R.E. (Renee) Chambliss (playing Lilly Morgan)
Kimiko Alexandre
May 12, 2010, 11:46:35 AM5/12/10
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Zack, I got the email but no one ever told me if I actually have a part in this. It would be helpful if I knew that.
Kimi
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Andrew Richardson
May 12, 2010, 12:06:00 PM5/12/10
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Perhaps we need an intro in each chapter, where you say
In this chapter
Kimiko as XXXX
Andrew as YYYY
I also completely agree with the removal of the "he said", "she exclaimed" parts from the narrator - great catch - I think if you leave them in, it will add enormously to the editing time for the engineer/producer, and add might an unintended comical undertone to the story (An example of the "comic effect" is in the old show in the UK, "That's Life" with Esther Rantzen, if anyone remembers it)
Ok, I am over-thinking again....
In this chapter
Kimiko as XXXX
Andrew as YYYY
I also completely agree with the removal of the "he said", "she exclaimed" parts from the narrator - great catch - I think if you leave them in, it will add enormously to the editing time for the engineer/producer, and add might an unintended comical undertone to the story (An example of the "comic effect" is in the old show in the UK, "That's Life" with Esther Rantzen, if anyone remembers it)
Ok, I am over-thinking again....
Zack Daggy
May 12, 2010, 12:07:01 PM5/12/10
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Kimi:
You're not part of the core cast, but other parts will be available down the line. Still, any advice you can share would be appreciated. :-)
Renee:
All the "he said, she saids" won't be read. Only the bold and color lines will. My thought is that by leaving the dialog descriptives in the text it can act as notes toward how the lines should be read. (Example: "There's a monster under my bed!," Jimmy yelled.)
Thoughts?
ZD
You're not part of the core cast, but other parts will be available down the line. Still, any advice you can share would be appreciated. :-)
Renee:
All the "he said, she saids" won't be read. Only the bold and color lines will. My thought is that by leaving the dialog descriptives in the text it can act as notes toward how the lines should be read. (Example: "There's a monster under my bed!," Jimmy yelled.)
Thoughts?
ZD
Zack Daggy
May 12, 2010, 12:10:31 PM5/12/10
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Andrew:
I will add the chapter notes. Good idea!
ZD
I will add the chapter notes. Good idea!
ZD
Dave Maciver
May 12, 2010, 12:20:01 PM5/12/10
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Actually that would be better as end credits. Thinking from a listener point of view, if your listening to a number of chapters in a row it can get really annoying and its easier to skip the end parts that fast forward the start
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Jim Todd
May 12, 2010, 12:20:22 PM5/12/10
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I like Andrew's idea of having a section in the front that will tell us which colour is which in the dialogue. Will the scripts, once they're ready, take on a similar format to this, or will they be closer to the conventional format for a script?
Zack, I agree with your thinking - I think we do still need the dialogue descriptive portions of the text still in the script, as they help us determine how we should say each line.
I take it that the bold, black text is for the narrator, and the italics are for any sound effects are to be added in?
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Zack, I agree with your thinking - I think we do still need the dialogue descriptive portions of the text still in the script, as they help us determine how we should say each line.
I take it that the bold, black text is for the narrator, and the italics are for any sound effects are to be added in?
Jim
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Andrew Richardson
May 12, 2010, 12:32:53 PM5/12/10
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Hi Dave-
I suggesting of using this intro as a guide for the characters in the story, rather than something that would go "out" on the audiobook!
I suggesting of using this intro as a guide for the characters in the story, rather than something that would go "out" on the audiobook!
Zack Daggy
May 12, 2010, 12:35:18 PM5/12/10
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Jim:
The scripts will look a lot like this.
The bold is the narrator and the italics are both sound fx and inner monologue.
ZD
The scripts will look a lot like this.
The bold is the narrator and the italics are both sound fx and inner monologue.
ZD
Renee
May 12, 2010, 12:35:56 PM5/12/10
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Hi Zack-
> All the "he said, she saids" won't be read. Only the bold and color lines
> will. My thought is that by leaving the dialog descriptives in the text it
> can act as notes toward how the lines should be read. (Example: "There's a
> monster under my bed!," Jimmy yelled.)
Ah! That makes sense. So if I had a line that was broken partway
through by a "Lilly said" I'd read it as one piece? For example, if
the script said:
"Zack is spelled with 'ck' at the end," Lilly said, trying not to
sound as irritated as she felt, "not 'ch'."
I'd record:
"Zack is spelled with 'ck' at the end, not 'ch'."
And the middle part would give me guidance as to how to say the line.
I think I understand!
Thanks!
-Renee
>
> Thoughts?
>
> ZD
>
> On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Kimiko Alexandre <kim...@kimiko-dreams.com
>
>
>
>
>
> > wrote:
> > Zack, I got the email but no one ever told me if I actually have a part in
> > this. It would be helpful if I knew that.
>
> > Kimi
>
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> >>>> .
> >>>> .
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> >>> .
> >> .
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>
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> All the "he said, she saids" won't be read. Only the bold and color lines
> will. My thought is that by leaving the dialog descriptives in the text it
> can act as notes toward how the lines should be read. (Example: "There's a
> monster under my bed!," Jimmy yelled.)
through by a "Lilly said" I'd read it as one piece? For example, if
the script said:
"Zack is spelled with 'ck' at the end," Lilly said, trying not to
sound as irritated as she felt, "not 'ch'."
I'd record:
"Zack is spelled with 'ck' at the end, not 'ch'."
And the middle part would give me guidance as to how to say the line.
I think I understand!
Thanks!
-Renee
>
> Thoughts?
>
> ZD
>
> On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Kimiko Alexandre <kim...@kimiko-dreams.com
>
>
>
>
>
> > wrote:
> > Zack, I got the email but no one ever told me if I actually have a part in
> > this. It would be helpful if I knew that.
>
> > Kimi
>
> > On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Zack Daggy <z...@mothpod.com> wrote:
>
> >> Good points thus far. Keep them coming! :-)
>
> >> Oh, and since Ashley brought it up, Allen and I are looking for someone
> >> that can do a voice of a little boy for the chapter. Anyone want to give it
> >> a shot?
>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Zack
>
>
> >> Good points thus far. Keep them coming! :-)
>
> >> Oh, and since Ashley brought it up, Allen and I are looking for someone
> >> that can do a voice of a little boy for the chapter. Anyone want to give it
> >> a shot?
>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Zack
>
> >> On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Ashley Summerrow <summer...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >>> Hello all,
>
> >>> Andrew made some good points. Although James Walker is in the first
> >>> chapter, I don't think that I will be paying him (unless it is done in
> >>> retrospect). I am looking forward to seeing how this all comes together.
>
> >>> Ashley Summerrow
>
> >>> Hello all,
>
> >>> Andrew made some good points. Although James Walker is in the first
> >>> chapter, I don't think that I will be paying him (unless it is done in
> >>> retrospect). I am looking forward to seeing how this all comes together.
>
> >>> Ashley Summerrow
> >>>> .
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Zack Daggy
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Renee:
Yup. That's it. :)
Za"ck"
Yup. That's it. :)
Za"ck"
Tabitha Smith
May 12, 2010, 1:07:22 PM5/12/10
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I'm so confused right now. What are we doing?
-----> Tabz
-----> Tabz
Ashley Summerrow
May 12, 2010, 1:16:43 PM5/12/10
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I really like the idea of having the the extra information available to us as notes. With the color coding that will be taking place it will offer us the ability to more closely realize the subtleties that Zack is intending for each character. Knowing what is going on in the scene helps immensely when trying to deliver lines the best you can.
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