Access denial at Main Entrance by the Security---NOT ADVISABLE, AND TAKE CORRECTIVE ACTIONS --ESCALATION ON SECURITY AND MAINTENANCE

[Vadir...@hdfcbank.com]

veeresha/ravi

you and your management is making us the Residents in Deep trouble.

you have no clues and no actions on the theft cases of your own issued Parking/Access stickers which are issued to Owners and Residents.

my parking/access stickers were stolen 3 times and have complained to you and security twice, no action or resolution till date, which is pending for quiet some times(few months)

now venkatesh is not available, SRS sandeep, mallikarjun, is not available, narasimha has no clues on this situation.

I WANT TO KNOW IMMEDIATELY WHO ARE ACCESSING MY CARDS (OLD/LOST) AND HOW SAFE AND SECURED IS THIS PREMISES? WHO IS CONTROLLING THIS?

BY RECORDING ON THE REGISTER OR BY ACCESSING THE PREMISES WITH ILLEGAL WAY OF OBTAINED STICKERS BY TRESPASSER'S, WANT TO KNOW HOW WILL IT HELPS IN TRESS PASSING?? HOW IT WILL HELP YOUR SECURITY???

suddenly you are stopping us, that too OWNERS, which is not a fair JOB on your management.

on top of this you are stopping the Owners by appointing the Goonda's and Rowdy's (so called Bouncer's) at the entrance, who does not know whom and what they are speaking to.

WHICH IS QUIET EMBARRASSING SITUATION TO US. THAT TOO IN THE NIGHTS AT 10.30 PM. ITS INSANE, IN HUMANE, IRRESISTIBLE, UN TOLERABLE.

TAKE CORRECTIVE ACTION ON IMMEDIATE BASIS, WITHOUT ANY FURTHER REMINDERS




Regards.........

Vadiraj Rao C A

9886231646

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[Venkatesh Selvappan]

Vadiraj

I dont understand your email.. Appointment  of nouncers had been proposed and accepted in last weekend meeting by vbhc and residents..

Also this mail is not proper way of communicating in large forum..

I personally support thus bouncers as after this guys had been appointed too many issues are in control..

If your stickers are stolen and you are not allowed inside please solve this amicably this is not the way to solve the issue and also you are making this as a common issue which is not at all correct...

People who support bouncers please reply...

Cheers
Venky

[Vadir...@hdfcbank.com]

please read properly

BY RECORDING ON THE REGISTER OR BY ACCESSING THE PREMISES WITH ILLEGAL WAY OF OBTAINED STICKERS BY TRESPASSER'S, WANT TO KNOW HOW WILL IT HELPS IN TRESS PASSING?? HOW IT WILL HELP YOUR SECURITY???

Regards.........

Vadiraj Rao C A

Venkatesh Selvappan <vksel...@gmail.com> wrote on 03/31/2016 11:31:32 AM:

> From: Venkatesh Selvappan <vksel...@gmail.com>
> To: Vadir...@hdfcbank.com,
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> Date: 03/31/2016 11:34 AM
> Subject: Re: Access denial at Main Entrance by the Security---NOT
> ADVISABLE, AND TAKE CORRECTIVE ACTIONS --ESCALATION ON SECURITY AND
> MAINTENANCE

> [image removed]

[Vadir...@hdfcbank.com]

let the maintenance team/management reply on this

Regards.........

Vadiraj Rao C A

Venkatesh Selvappan <vksel...@gmail.com> wrote on 03/31/2016 11:31:32 AM:


> Date: 03/31/2016 11:34 AM
> Subject: Re: Access denial at Main Entrance by the Security---NOT
> ADVISABLE, AND TAKE CORRECTIVE ACTIONS --ESCALATION ON SECURITY AND
> MAINTENANCE

>
> Vadiraj

> [image removed]

[Venkatesh Selvappan]

My comment is on below statement which is not correct irrespective of any case or issue you had faced..

top of this you are stopping the Owners by appointing the Goonda's and Rowdy's (so called Bouncer's) at the entrance, who does not know whom and what they are speaking to.

[Rahul Sabharwal]

Dear Mr. Rao,

Based on the majority view of the residents, VBHC has requested the Security Company to employ Special Guards,  which was the only way in which difficult Student Tenants could be controlled. We have received initial feedback that unruly Student Tenants are now better behaved.

Now we have received a complaint from you  that we should discontinue this.We cannot satisfy all persons if they have different suggestions. The rules at the gate can be enforced only when all the residents are willing to abide by them, if there is a leeway given to one set of residents then it will defeat the purpose of special guards being deployed in the complex.

We are convening a meeting on 3rd April to finalize the Association Formation. Incidentally, here also we bowed to the wishes of the Majority of the Owners as to how the Association should be formed and we are using the Draft Proposal given by a very knowledgeable and constructive owner.

The Residents by a Majority vote are welcome to change the Security Company, change the Instructions to the Security Company or change Individual Employees of the Security Company or any combination of these measures. We have no opinion on this matter.

Regards

Rahul

Rahul Sabharwal Chief Operating Officer
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Subject: Access denial at Main Entrance by the Security---NOT ADVISABLE, AND TAKE CORRECTIVE ACTIONS --ESCALATION ON SECURITY AND MAINTENANCE

veeresha/ravi

you and your management is making us the Residents in Deep trouble.

you have no clues and no actions on the theft cases of your own issued Parking/Access stickers which are issued to Owners and Residents.

my parking/access stickers were stolen 3 times and have complained to you and security twice, no action or resolution till date, which is pending for quiet some times(few months)

now venkatesh is not available, SRS sandeep, mallikarjun, is not available, narasimha has no clues on this situation.

I WANT TO KNOW IMMEDIATELY WHO ARE ACCESSING MY CARDS (OLD/LOST) AND HOW SAFE AND SECURED IS THIS PREMISES? WHO IS CONTROLLING THIS?

BY RECORDING ON THE REGISTER OR BY ACCESSING THE PREMISES WITH ILLEGAL WAY OF OBTAINED STICKERS BY TRESPASSER'S, WANT TO KNOW HOW WILL IT HELPS IN TRESS PASSING?? HOW IT WILL HELP YOUR SECURITY???

suddenly you are stopping us, that too OWNERS, which is not a fair JOB on your management.

on top of this you are stopping the Owners by appointing the Goonda's and Rowdy's (so called Bouncer's) at the entrance, who does not know whom and what they are speaking to.

WHICH IS QUIET EMBARRASSING SITUATION TO US. THAT TOO IN THE NIGHTS AT 10.30 PM. ITS INSANE, IN HUMANE, IRRESISTIBLE, UN TOLERABLE.

TAKE CORRECTIVE ACTION ON IMMEDIATE BASIS, WITHOUT ANY FURTHER REMINDERS




Regards.........

Vadiraj Rao C A

9886231646

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[Vadir...@hdfcbank.com]

Dear Mr Rahul

again reiterating

how do you stop the illegal entry?

by entering the details at the entrance on the register, how sure that the trespasser's will provide correct information's on the register? how do you track if the said person is going to what purpose (actually) ? weather is going to same Flat/Block which has entered and should it be for same purpose, as it may be fake or false?

also the stolen stickers may be utilized by the different fakers at different times for any reasons, and there is no corresponding entry on the register at the entrance as the trespasser's is carrying the valid access sticker (which is actually stolen), do we have any control on this?

how this would suffice our purpose of Safety and Security?

Regards.........

Vadiraj Rao C A

Rahul Sabharwal <Rahul.S...@vbhc.com> wrote on 03/31/2016 12:21:46 PM:

> From: Rahul Sabharwal <Rahul.S...@vbhc.com>

> To: "Vadir...@hdfcbank.com" <Vadir...@hdfcbank.com>, Adarsh
> Cc: Jerry Rao <Jerr...@vbhc.com>
> Date: 03/31/2016 12:22 PM
> Subject: Re: Access denial at Main Entrance by the Security---NOT
> ADVISABLE, AND TAKE CORRECTIVE ACTIONS --ESCALATION ON SECURITY AND
> MAINTENANCE

>
> Dear Mr. Rao,

>
> Based on the majority view of the residents, VBHC has requested the
> Security Company to employ Special Guards,  which was the only way
> in which difficult Student Tenants could be controlled. We have
> received initial feedback that unruly Student Tenants are now better behaved.
>
> Now we have received a complaint from you  that we should
> discontinue this.We cannot satisfy all persons if they have
> different suggestions. The rules at the gate can be enforced only
> when all the residents are willing to abide by them, if there is a
> leeway given to one set of residents then it will defeat the purpose
> of special guards being deployed in the complex.
>
> We are convening a meeting on 3rd April to finalize the Association
> Formation. Incidentally, here also we bowed to the wishes of the
> Majority of the Owners as to how the Association should be formed
> and we are using the Draft Proposal given by a very knowledgeable
> and constructive owner.
>
> The Residents by a Majority vote are welcome to change the Security
> Company, change the Instructions to the Security Company or change
> Individual Employees of the Security Company or any combination of
> these measures. We have no opinion on this matter.
>
> Regards
>
> Rahul

>
> [image removed]

>
> Rahul Sabharwal
> Chief Operating Officer

>
> visit us @ www.vbhc.com

>
> P: 080 49095106 | F: 080 43479502
> M: +91 9845379582
>
>  
>
> VBHC Value Homes Private Limited
> (formerly known as “Value and Budget Housing Corporation Pvt Ltd”)
> Lakshminarayana Complex, 4th Floor, 10/1, Palace Road Vasanth Nagar,
> Opp. Mount Carmel College,
> Bangalore - 560052 | Karnataka

>
> [image removed]

> blo...@googlegroups.com" <vbhc-b...@googlegroups.com>, "

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[Vadir...@hdfcbank.com]

again for your understanding reiterating

how do you stop the illegal entry?

by entering the details at the entrance on the register, how sure that the trespasser's will provide correct information's on the register? how do you track if the said person is going to what purpose (actually) ? weather is going to same Flat/Block which has entered and should it be for same purpose, as it may be fake or false?

also the stolen stickers may be utilized by the different fakers at different times for any reasons, and there is no corresponding entry on the register at the entrance as the trespasser's is carrying the valid access sticker (which is actually stolen), do we have any control on this?

how this would suffice our purpose of Safety and Security?

Regards.........

Vadiraj Rao C A

[Venkatesh Selvappan]

Bouncers are doing good job, Its very much realized by owners who come front for every isssue with students thats its not that easy to control this students when they are in effect of drugs that too by late night..

Who ever is owner and sleeps closing the doors till issue comes to his door step will not understand the pain Of controlling students when they are in drug effect.. Bouncers are doing great job...

We support vbhc move in this matters when comes to security and peace at night..

Cheers
Venky

[Vadir...@hdfcbank.com]

NOT AT THE COST OF OWNERS WHO HAVE MADE THEIR EFFORTS TO SAVE AND PURCHASE THE FLAT

AND YOU ARE DILUTING THE TOPIC WITH YOUR UNWANTED COMMENTS WHICH IS NOT REQUIRED

RESOLUTION IS EXPECTED FROM THE MANAGEMENT

Regards.........

Vadiraj Rao C A

Venkatesh Selvappan <vksel...@gmail.com> wrote on 03/31/2016 12:35:32 PM:

> From: Venkatesh Selvappan <vksel...@gmail.com>

> Date: 03/31/2016 12:36 PM
> Subject: Re: Access denial at Main Entrance by the Security---NOT
> ADVISABLE, AND TAKE CORRECTIVE ACTIONS --ESCALATION ON SECURITY AND
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[viswas athrasseri]

Dear All, 

I have seen many good comments from owners in various whatsapp groups and in mails about bouncers, with that I too personally feel that bouncer implementation is helping to control students issues. Initially any incidents affects residents sleep, few active owners will come out to know whats happening in side vbhc. in last 2-3 days very less residents aware about the incidents including me, also heard bouncers managed these issue very well. So I personally think, bouncers are doing good job so far. 

@ Vadiraj, 

As you said One System (ID card / Vehicle sticker) is very much required also I can understand your point and difficulties faced as a owner. As you are aware, so many issues happening in side our premises, we have tried / discussed many things to control all this. VBHC & SRS agreed in last meeting that, we will try with bouncers for 2 months if it is working well then will continue. Initial time it will be little irritation to owners because we done have any system to know who is owner and who is tenant. also they dont have any rules to follow. May after this association formation  meeting we can come up with certain rules to follow and any system like ID card, vehicle sticker etc. Until we need to adjust little bit. We will again try to implement one by one, also tell VBHC to do that, like main gate camera, boom barrier ( even though it was not agreed as per last meeting, still something they have did). 

Also they have agreed they will install sign boards within 2 weeks time, and will display rules board, if we finalize the rules and regulations etc. Lets observe how things are moving....

This is my personal observation, I guess majority are thinking the same way, if not please comment here.

Regards,

Viswas

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EXACTLY THE POINT IS

we don't have any system to know who is owner and who is tenant.



also how sure are we that if we take the Parking/Access stickers from MAINTENANCE are not lost/stolen again?

why would this be done repeatedly even after failures on this issue?

till how many iterations this has to be done ?

who is suffering finally?

why should be suffered because of some body's mistake and ignorance/negligence?

how foolproof that stolen access is not utilized by the trespassing?

why this inconvenience and suffer to OWNER?

Regards.........

Vadiraj Rao C A

viswas athrasseri <swa...@gmail.com> wrote on 03/31/2016 01:15:42 PM:

> From: viswas athrasseri <swa...@gmail.com>

[Venkatesh Selvappan]

Vadiraj

Nothing is there to dilute vbhc management had accepted to address  issues one by one if you had attended last meeting vbhc management had accepted to install vistor management system and subsequently the identity management system.. Do attend meetings and get more info on whats happening before you comment in large forum.

Cheers
Venky

[Vadir...@hdfcbank.com]

ON BEHALF PLEASE RESPOND AND CONFIRM ON THESE BELOW POINTS : (IF POSSIBLE)


SINCE THE SAID ISSUE/S IS/ARE ON THE BREACH OF SAFETY AND SECURITY OF THE PREMISES, OWNERS, PROPERTY THE DISCUSSION IS IN THE OPEN FORUM NOT OTHERWISE

also how sure are we that if we take the Parking/Access stickers from MAINTENANCE are not lost/stolen again?

why would this be done repeatedly even after failures on this issue?

till how many iterations this has to be done ?

who is suffering finally?

why should be suffered because of some body's mistake and ignorance/negligence?

how foolproof that stolen access is not utilized by the trespassing?

why this inconvenience and suffer to OWNER?

how do you stop the illegal entry?

by entering the details at the entrance on the register, how sure that the trespasser's will provide correct information's on the register? how do you track if the said person is going to what purpose (actually) ? weather is going to same Flat/Block which has entered and should it be for same purpose, as it may be fake or false?

also the stolen stickers may be utilized by the different fakers at different times for any reasons, and there is no corresponding entry on the register at the entrance as the trespasser's is carrying the valid access sticker (which is actually stolen), do we have any control on this?

how this would suffice our purpose of Safety and Security?

BY RECORDING ON THE REGISTER OR BY ACCESSING THE PREMISES WITH ILLEGAL WAY OF OBTAINED STICKERS BY TRESPASSER'S, WANT TO KNOW HOW WILL IT HELPS IN TRESS PASSING?? HOW IT WILL HELP YOUR SECURITY???

AND NOTE THAT : MEETINGS WERE CONDUCTED BY US INITIALLY NO BODY BOTHERED DURING THOSE DAYS (PAST 2 YEARS) AND LAST WEEK ALSO WAS MEETING HELD YOU WERE ABSENT ON THE DAY, HENCE NEED NOT INTERVENE ON THE ATTENDING THE MEETINGS.

Regards.........

Vadiraj Rao C A

[j777]

Hi All,

I support bouncers are for good and should continue.

However, to address Vadiraj's comment -  I feel the current sticker (non-paper material) is not correct.
1) it can be easily removed from any vehicle.
2) it will not be torn even if u want it to be, since the sticker is plastic material and not paper.

So we have so many sticker thefts.

SOLUTION:
1) It should actually be paper, which gets torned on removal....it can also have a protective plastic cover (to protect it damaged during bike washing).  However if anybody intentionally remove the plastic or sticker it should be torn ( not come out easily).   Basically use paper material with plastic cover.

2) secondly it should be comparatively smaller in size - so tht ppl can stick it in front.  Current one is so huge that nobody would like to paste it in front of bike...(bikes generally don't have this much big space in front).  Currently ppl are sticking at the back, on the mudguard etc. It is tough for security to track.

Ravi - I can show you my office sticker just for example.

Vadiraj - Just to answer your one qts - owner and tenant stickers are separate.  So that is the way for security to identify the owners.

Sorry for long mail....but wanted to clarify and give my feedback on the issue.

Regards,
Job

[Lester Prince Fernandes]

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Vadiraj - You pls do not write anything here and spread negative vibes. Guards are doing a good job and we will not change anything from here.

If you have problems with VBHC - deal with them separately - not here. Do not try to deviate anything here.

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[lokesh bhat]

Hi All,

l agree with others that as owner we too must be responsible citizen and follow rules.I support the Bouncer System... Previously during the incident we used to get local strong persons support directly or indirectly and muscle power trouble making students in extreme cases. Family oriented person were never used to get involved for the the fear of life or safety of near and dear ones.

  Best example in this regard was an Foreign national who was manhandled in the Premises despite  being Biggest Troublemaker.. This unnecessarily projected the Vbhc Residents in negative way in the Public media.

@Vadiraj Sir--- During those incidents directly or indirectly through so called  respected organizational power of  Regional Association you  have supported hard handedness up to certain extent. Now I cannot understand if Bouncers are trying to do same what is wrong in that. Regard to other issues or loopholes  pointed with VBHC those can be sorted out with consensus from the Residents.  Sir my sincere request in this regard  lets set aside our  Ego and work for the benefit of Society's  Peaceful existence.

Regards

Lokesh Bhat

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[Venkatesh Selvappan]

Accepted Job...

[Brahmdeo Verma]

We all are supporting bouncers to control students issues and even Vadiraj not against about bouncers. Bouncers are doing their job and checking each vehicle but owner is coming from office late night and doing formalities. It is not for one day so we(Owners) can bare this.

Problem is here access sticker for bike. Bouncers may not be knowing who is owner , student or tenant if sticker is missing from vehicle.

And this is not our duties that we can collect sticker every second day from maintenance office and paying cost of sticker.

It cannot be personal issues so we can consider this issue as generic issues since many are facing sticker issue and we all are fadeup with sticker system and especially for bike.

We need to work on sticker part and need to find some permanent solution so it cannot remove easily.

Regards,
Brahmdeo

[Venkatesh Selvappan]

Hi Brahmdeo

All the owners know the issue some how we need to stop outsiders and maintain vbhc vaibhava as a gated community..

Vbhc Residents team and vbhc, srs is working together on it meanwhile

My comment is on below statement in vadiraj email...
which is not correct irrespective of any case or issue he had faced..

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top of this you are stopping the Owners by appointing the Goonda's and Rowdy's (so called Bouncer's) at the entrance, who does not know whom and what they are speaking to.

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Lets all support vbhc management if they had taken correct move and help us to address other issues now it reached a point where we dont have control and the campus is huge mean so many flats are occupied ...

Cheers
Venky

[Dileep Rao]

Dear Mr Rahul,

I understand we need tight security and for this we need to keep the bouncers.

Can you also please answer questions on theft that is happening within the premises? Vehicle sticker theft, vehicle/cycle theft, lift damages etc?

We want you (VBHC) to be accountable for this and not pass on the responsibility in the name of association formation.

Thanks Dileep

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[Veeresha BS]

Dear Dileep

 

We have installed CCTV in main  gate to capture people / vehicle movement. If any incident occurs than we have video footage to do investigation.  For protecting lift battens we have designed new panel and soon will be fixing that. Please find the attachment for more clarity on panel design.

 

We understand parking stickers are misplaced from two wheelers. We are working on it. I would request if you have any sample of sticker then please share with us which will solve the problem.

 

Looking forward for your co- operation.

 

Regards

Veeresha

 

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[Dileep Rao]

Thank you Mr Veeresha.

[Riyaz Eksambi]

Hi Veeresha,

It is good that there is new design coming up to protect lift buttons. I would request the design team to please install this new panel in one of the lift and check the feasibility and user friendliness, before putting it on lifts.

The previous design of letter box is complete failure.  It does not serve any purpose, instead we always have worry of loosing important letters.

Thanks and regards,
Riyaz Eksambi
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[Venkatesh Selvappan]

Good Riyaz well said....