Re: [#globalNOISE] #OK13Global World trending Topic

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Dean Edwards

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Oct 10, 2012, 7:53:38 PM10/10/12
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These are excellnt observations. As an assessment it lacks only the strengths and weaknesses of our opposition.

I would encourage us all to consider cultural factors when we prepare for any actions and outreach in support of planned actions.

One other thing. The tweeting is intended to take place on Wed andnesday and Thursday, not only Wednesday (these are usually abbreviated Wed and Thu).

And, anyone can retweet. If you place the #OK13Global hash tag in the twitter search bbox, and click on search, a list is displayed with current tweets at the top. Then click on retweet. That takes some of the creative pressure off. And, as for individual creative expression. By all means,yes! Send out your own messages. Democracy, it has been said is the worst of all possible systems of government, except for all the others. :)

Peace from salembard
Dean Edwards
Salem, OR



On Oct 10, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Ludovica Rogers wrote:

Dear Ternura,

Thank you for the update.
I will give briefly my feedback.
But I hope it will not be taken as criticism, on the contrary, I am amazed at how well we have been working in this group, and I know we are all doing it in our free time, so we are able to do is amazing.

So here we go:
 
1. twitter is used more or less, and differently according to the location. I can speak for London and Milan. I still know very few people who use it in Milan. In London, they are more, and it is being used by activist more and more. Nevertheless there are still many who do not use it. Here in London we have tried to bridge the gap by teaching people, or by setting up twitter as text message, so at least even if people do not tweet, they can receive important information. 

2. Regarding this specific action.
When I suggested it, the aim for me was not trending, but simply promotion. Knowing our situation here, I did not expect it to trend. But at the same time, if many people are tweeting about the same thing on the same day it creates momentum  especially because many followers, follow similar accounts. Also by giving a date and time to help with promotion rather then generally asking people to promote, makes it more likely that people take it on, as it becomes a social act, rather then an individual one.
So when the discussion changed to trending I stepped out as it was not what I had in mind.
I personally got confused about what to communicate to people. The Facebook page date and text changed a few times. So at some point I stopped promoting it waiting for things to become clearer.
I also was put off a bit by the fact that a few people appeared to have more experience in Social Media. So I didn't feel that confident in expressing my opinion. Now I regret this, as probably some of my observations could have been useful. But maybe we can learn from this that whatever the expertise we need to allow everyone to feel comfortable in expressing their opinions. This is a learning process for all!

3. The final decision came too late. 
The information was provided late last night (or early this morning!). And even then it was unclear to me if it was meant to start at 10 am or 10pm. I then was not able to send information about the action until late in the morning, and ended up sending out a confusing message about the idea. 
We also didn't promote it enough during the week building up.

What I have learnt from this.
- social media does not only involve "technical" aspects, but very much also social and cultural aspects, therefore we have to listen very carefully to each countries practices to understand how to use it best. 
- not all networks have efficient means of communication. Here in London for example, the admins of FB are different from those of twitter and different from the website. This allows us to share responsibility,  but means that we need a bit more time to coordinate. Other countries will have different situations. So when organising actions like this it would be good to leave a bit more time between decision and action, to allow less efficient networks to spread the information on time. For example, London would have needed at least 24 h more.

Hope this helps!

Maybe we could think of discussing further the use of SM in Madrid in November if any of you are there.

Even if my comments might appear a bit critical…I still think it was a success! Spain got trending…and we managed to spread the news far and wide! So basically what we wanted. And we have learnt a lot…so next time we will do it even better!


Vica





On Oct 10, 2012, at 9:31 PM, "Dr. TR. Rojas-D" <tern...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear all
last updtae on my side for today
the situation of our hashtag as for now 20:30pm UTC on 10//10 is this image http://trendsmap.com/topic/%23ok13global and also the screenshot attached to this email

chances are we will not attain the TT with this one
It started great this morning, in less than 3 hours our tweeting team in Spain managed to get the TT in Spain

Please keep trying, if you can tweet #OK13Global along with you local vindications, some more ideas here http://notes.occupy.net/p/W5ZRIiZ9aA

I also would like to receive feedback regarding this exercise, why it went well in some areas, and why it did not go as expected in other places. We shall learn from these experiences in order to improve for the future

Thanks for your attention, let us keep on!!
T

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Mikifus

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Oct 11, 2012, 5:52:29 AM10/11/12
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I agree with Vica and Dean. Next time we'll need to fix many things, sorry for not being able to be in the meetings.

2012/10/11 Dean Edwards <dedw...@igc.org>

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