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John White

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Sep 13, 2007, 5:53:08 AM9/13/07
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Hey Fran, any news you can give (here on by email) on how things went
for you and Molly yesterday?

Fran Lyon

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Sep 13, 2007, 6:27:32 AM9/13/07
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Hello,

Thanks for thinking of us, and for asking.

Unfortunately Northumberland Council would not let my solicitor or I attend the appeal and so I don't know what decision was made. Their policy is to inform parents in writing. There has been no letter from them this morning. I'll post on here as soon as I know anything.

All we can do now is wait.

Thanks,

Fran

Shaun O'Connell

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Sep 13, 2007, 6:33:12 AM9/13/07
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does their policy give their reasons in writing.
 
Solicitor should challenge their procedure as being unfair hearing if not allowed to attend and give oral argument and also to challenge their reasoning.
 
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John White

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Sep 13, 2007, 10:24:45 AM9/13/07
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On 13 Sep, 11:27, "Fran Lyon" <fran.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Thanks for thinking of us, and for asking.
>
> Unfortunately Northumberland Council would not let my solicitor or I attend
> the appeal and so I don't know what decision was made. Their policy is to
> inform parents in writing. There has been no letter from them this morning.
> I'll post on here as soon as I know anything.
>
> All we can do now is wait.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Fran
>

> On 9/13/07, John White <malvernmessa...@btinternet.com> wrote:
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> > Hey Fran, any news you can give (here on by email) on how things went

> > for you and Molly yesterday?- Hide quoted text -
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Crazy. It says a lot that they won't even look you in the face

Sociable

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Sep 13, 2007, 11:06:46 AM9/13/07
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Hi Fran,

No rush as I know you have a lot on your mind right now but it would
be very useful to know if this "appeal" was an internal Social
Services review or a full court hearing in the Family or some other
Court, and if the latter what Act or Regulation they quote to support
your exclusion from such a hearing given your rights under Article 6.1
of the Convention on Human Rights enshrines in the 1998 Act.

All the best.

Peter

On 13 Sep, 11:27, "Fran Lyon" <fran.l...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Thanks for thinking of us, and for asking.
>
> Unfortunately Northumberland Council would not let my solicitor or I attend
> the appeal and so I don't know what decision was made. Their policy is to
> inform parents in writing. There has been no letter from them this morning.
> I'll post on here as soon as I know anything.
>
> All we can do now is wait.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Fran
>

> On 9/13/07, John White <malvernmessa...@btinternet.com> wrote:
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> > Hey Fran, any news you can give (here on by email) on how things went

Fran Lyon

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Sep 13, 2007, 5:32:02 PM9/13/07
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Hello,

It was an internal appeal. A far as I know it conformed to their policies - and they have said to the press that their policies are in line with national ones.

Thanks,

Fran

Sociable

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Sep 14, 2007, 5:42:31 AM9/14/07
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Hi Fran thanks so much for getting back to me on this.

Ok that makes sense (at least legally) as the rules do allow for such
internal reviews to be carried out without your direct involvement
but....and it is an important but, you have a right under Article 6.1
to an independent review of any decisions made by such an internal
review process.

Your solicitor will be able to advise you on how you could best do
this but I would suspect the best way might be to apply for permission
to seek Judicial Review in the High Court using Article 6.1 as the
main grounds for such a review and possibly articles 8 and/or 3 of the
Human Rights Act to argue against any unfair decison reached by the
Social Services internal review, along with any failure to correctly
apply the relevant DDA and DED duties Social Services have towards
you.

The key thing to remember with this process though is that any such
request for Judicial Review has to be lodged at the High Court within
3 months of your being notified of the decision you wish to have
reviewed.

Hope that helps and more than this that the actual decison they have
come to on the appeal will mean you do not need to challenge it, i.e.
that they have now come to their senses and start to treat your and
Molly fairly.

All the best

Peter.

On 13 Sep, 22:32, "Fran Lyon" <fran.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>

> It was an internal appeal. A far as I know it conformed to their policies -
> and they have said to the press that their policies are in line with
> national ones.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Fran
>

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Philip1111

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Sep 16, 2007, 6:21:59 AM9/16/07
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Hi Fran,

just to say that there are lots of us at BBC Ouch who support you :-)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbouch/F8146589?thread=4562793

Take care,

Philip

Richard Riley

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Oct 7, 2007, 6:51:07 PM10/7/07
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Any news yet?

Georgie

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Oct 19, 2007, 7:12:49 PM10/19/07
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Don't know if you remember me Fran, Its George from across the road in
Milton, am desperate to hear how this all goes for you, our thoughts
and prayers are with you both. I am also pregnant and due with my
third in March. I already have two wonderful children aged 5 and 4 and
couldn't even imagine the distress and worry you are going through
right now. All the best sweetie. xxx.

On 13 Sep, 11:27, "Fran Lyon" <fran.l...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Thanks for thinking of us, and for asking.
>
> Unfortunately Northumberland Council would not let my solicitor or I attend
> the appeal and so I don't know what decision was made. Their policy is to
> inform parents in writing. There has been no letter from them this morning.
> I'll post on here as soon as I know anything.
>
> All we can do now is wait.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Fran
>

> On 9/13/07, John White <malvernmessa...@btinternet.com> wrote:
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> > Hey Fran, any news you can give (here on by email) on how things went

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