Hello

[Vineet Pandey]

Hello, 

I was wondering if ASIG is still up and running. What's the status. Curious. Anyone?

We could work something up interesting if needed.

vineet

[Pranav Agarwal]

I don't think that ASIG is being continued. There is a parallel Computing SiG which is probably up and running by ME'ites. 

Also, i think this group is pretty old and most of the members are 2008/09 batch.

"We could work something up interesting if needed." - What do you have in mind?

Pranav

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[Vineet Pandey]

I did not have anything in mind, but I thought we could

* have alumni now working in systems and arch discuss a few topics every fortnight or so (video conferencing with students who might have come prepared on the topic)

* think about what would be good ways to make use of this forum

I have always had issues about students on campus (for no fault of their own)

* not getting the bigger picture. ("What is the landscape like, which are interesting areas, which research is cold etc.")

* not getting inspired to dive into dirty details (which is the real work)

We tend to think this is our job to figure out as students (by reading off www) but it's not so really. Your instructors should be excited and involved in this stuff to share such knowledge (wisdom even), but instead we stay stuck in flipping bits and K-maps. 

With alumni, I was hoping to bridge that gap a bit. 

vineet

[Vineet Pandey]

And all of this in an informal way, where current graduate students or interested alumni from industry could interact and chat up with juniors on campus. I know for a fact that this gives juniors immense confidence. 

[Arpan Gujarati]

I very well agree with Vineet's point that students and instructors are very much cut-off from the bigger picture of research and latests trends. At-least this is what I experienced when I moved from student life at BITS to graduate student life at MPI-SWS. So certainly some activity in this group, which contains both alumni and current students, would help this cause. 

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[Pranav Agarwal]

I do agree that people lack the bigger picture from latest trends. 

But, we did try this model on-campus with SIG where we asked people to read a few things and come back and share what they read. But i don't remember if we did enough or even if a few of the students were interested.

We need a way to get people interested on-campus to go into the nitty details. How to go about it, i can't think of any apart from maybe creating videos (very simple + basic - but delivers the point) on certain recent topics and sharing with juniors to atleast get them started. But that may come later in the point. We might start with some activity in this group to see how things progresses.

Pranav

[Vineet Pandey]

Sorry for delay, reply in a couple of days. 

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[Vineet Pandey]

Hi 

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On 8 October 2013 17:29, Vineet Pandey <vine...@gmail.com> wrote:

Sorry for delay, reply in a couple of days. 

On 6 October 2013 04:08, Pranav Agarwal <meetpr...@gmail.com> wrote:

I do agree that people lack the bigger picture from latest trends. 

But, we did try this model on-campus with SIG where we asked people to read a few things and come back and share what they read. But i don't remember if we did enough or even if a few of the students were interested.

 

In hindsight, that should't have worked and it did not. There will be a few tinkerers who will be excited and do things well and realize that no one else is interested, so they will go back to staying in their rooms. And the others will go back to usual lives. The reason is that "figuring things out" is not a skill we are typically taught through school or college and we rely a fair bit on a teacher. Alumni could take the role of a teacher here. (And I realize it sounds controversial as I say it). 

We could talk about topics of our expertise and provide resources and help them when folks get stuck. What do they learn out of it: nothing in particular, except for how to traverse or go about "understanding" things. Clearly, this process does not require a teacher or an instructor (and self-starters prove that), but with us, they will have some deadline/discipline and someone to fall back on as well. 

 

We need a way to get people interested on-campus to go into the nitty details. How to go about it, i can't think of any apart from maybe creating videos (very simple + basic - but delivers the point) on certain recent topics and sharing with juniors to atleast get them started. But that may come later in the point. We might start with some activity in this group to see how things progresses.

i have some questions wrt videos: they are not interactive and they will stay for a longer time than you want them to. Which is a good and a bad thing I guess. 

Any ideas? Should we have a hangout about this?

[Pranav Agarwal]

I'm not exactly sure how this will work, then? As in, SIG failed and getting people interested to come back to alumni with a deadline seems a lot to ask. But i guess the only way we can come up with a solution is to probably try different things and see which one works. 

I'm in for a discussion on how to handle this

Pranav

[Vineet Pandey]

Discussion toh abhi possible nakko. time tight. 

If others put in their opinion on this, we can think asynchronously and get back. 

[Vineet Pandey]

I cannot make out time to take things related to ASIG so will stay off till someone else plans out and tells me what to do. Better to spell it out I suppose :)