A mail about Gurupatni.Charllote Anderson(who is this anderson???)
JEYAKUMAR RAJENDRAN
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IAM WRITING WITH AT WORRY AT WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH PRANIC HEALING IN INDIA. IAM
A PRANIC HEALER FROM INDIA. THERE ARE SOME POINTS YOU NEED TO KNOW. I WAS
SHOCKED WHEN I HEARD THEM AND YOU WILL BE TOO. WE INDIAN ARE BEING FOOLED AND
MANIPULATED BY A 65 YEAR OLD WOMAN, CHARLOTTE ANDERSON. WE NEED TO KNOW
THE TRUTH.
1. CHARLOTTE ANDERSON MARRIED GRAND MASTER CHOA KOK SUI. DO YOU KNOW THAT
THEY ONLY MARRIED ON 31ST OF DECEMBER 2006? THEY MARRIED ONLY TWO AND A HALF
MONTHS BEFORE GRAND MASTER LEFT HIS BODY.
2. THE MARRIAGE WAS IN HONG KONG WHICH IS NOT LEGALLY VALID IN THE PHILIPPINES,
GRAND MASTER'S HOME AND COUNTRY WHERE HE LIVED.
3. IF CHARLOTTE ANDRESON SAYS SHE IS GURUPATNI AND GRAND MASTER'S WIFE, WHY IS
SHE STILL USING HER FIRST HUSBAND'S NAME ? Mr. ANDERSON WAS CHARLOTTE'S FIRST
HUSBAND. WHY DOES CHARLOTTE CONTINUE TO CALL HERSELF CHARLOTTE ANDERSON
EVEN AFTER SO MANY YEARS?
4. BEFORE MARRYING CHARLOTTE ANDERSON, GRAND MASTER MADE CHARLOTTE
ANDERSON SIGN AN AGREEMENT WHERE SHE PROMISED ( IN A LEGAL DOCUMENT) THAT SHE
WILL NOT TAKE ANY GRAND MASTERS PROPERTY, PHYSICAL PROPERTY OR INTELLECTUAL
PROPERTY ( LIKE BOOKS, COURSES, MEDITATIONS). CHARLOTTE ANDERSON PROMISED HER
GURU SHE WILL NOT TAKE HIS PROPERTY. GRAND MASTER ONLY MARRIED CHARLOTTE
ANDERSON AFTER SHE SIGNED THIS AGREEMENT.
GRAND MASTER SAID HIS 4 CHILDREN WILL BE HIS LEGIAL HEIRS AND SUCCESSORS.
TODAY, CHARLOTTE ANDERSON HAS BROKEN HER PROMISE TO HER GURU. SHE HAS FILED A
CASE AGAINST GRAND MASTER'S CHILDREN IN MANILA TO GET A SHARE OF HIS PROPERTY.
HOW CAN SOMEONE DISRESPECT THE GURU BY FILING A CASE AGAINST HIS CHILDREN?
HOW CAN SOMEONE GO AGAINST THE GURU'S WISHES BY CHALLENGING HIS HEIRS?
HOW CAN SOMEONE BREAK THE PROMISE TO THE GURU, WHEN IT IS A PROMISE IN
WRITING, IN A LEGAL DOCUMENT? AND THIS PERSON SAYS SHE IS GURUPATNI.
I WILL NOT GIVE MY NAME NOW. WHAT I HAVE SAID IN THIS EMAIL IS TRUE. I HAVE
CHECKED. YOU CAN ALSO CHECK. PLEASE SEND THIS MAIL TO ALL PRANIC HEALERS YOU
KNOW. INDIANS MUST KNOW THE TRUTH. WE MUST FOLLOW THE GURU'S WISHES.
PRANIC HEALER
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My Dear Atmas
Atma Jeyakumar, thank you for sending the unnamed Pranic healer’s letter which to appears like hate mail. Someone is hiding behind the name Pranic Healer. Whoever is writing this seems to appear as if he or she was looking at all the information first hand. (Though to my soul it appears more like someone has fed this poor soul with some information and trying to discredit someone.
1.) I am not saying that any of the information in the letter is true or not. I am only saying we need to be careful when such things are being said of a person especially when that person is not there to defend it is not only unfair it is also very dangerous. Since the bad karma of bad mouthing some of f higher level is always horrible,
2.) In fairness to Ms. Charlotte Anderson whether she is using her former husbands name or Master Choa’s surname is very little relevance for all what I see it could be even her maiden name. When someone bad mouth about Ms, Anderson in this fashion all what the unamed writer of the Indian Pranic Healing fraternity is doing is insulting our own Master in making the decision to marry Ms,. Anderson. Who are we to pass judgment on any of these???
3.) I have met Ms. Anderson twice up to now, Once at the Ashram and secondly at the recent Chennai KS. I can tell you it was a wonderful event. As we all know, if the workshop goes well it is very likely it was not Ms. Anderson teaching. It was the Masters Blessing and the energy if we know Master as we are suppose to know, At any time she never said anything about Guru patini. Even when someone would want to worship her going down on their knees, she would say “please do not worship me. I am only a channel. Please offer it your Master” and show the picture of the Master or Point at the masters Shoes relics and say “Those are the Master’s Shoes. Please offer your respects to Master. His energy is there.” So anyone wanting to name her as Guru Patini as a respect for her or someone promoting Ms. Anderson with love and respect that she has for Master it the individuals who are doing it.
4.) As far as the legality of the Marriage it is non of our business. The union of two souls, in this case what GMCKS has chosen is a private affair. The union of souls are a scared vow. The piece of paper is mostly for the purpose of legality for making the society more orderly. I do understand such issues will have profound implications. However, how can we say for sure that these issues of future was not foreseen by the Master as a highly evolve spiritual being. ????
5.) For any reasons such documents of marriage and pre-nuptial agreements and documents exist it a matter for the appropriate courts to decide. Whatever the outcome of the such court cases I guess it will be affected by our beloved GMCKS ‘s wishes of energy as a spiritual master. So it we should leave those matters to the parties that are in disagreement to resolve.
6.) The children of the master should get what is rightfully theirs. If the Masters are having issues among themselves, we should not get dragged in to it. We learn from all. Any thing that does not conform to Masters Teachings will pay the karmic price.
It is good to know what others are saying about pranic healing. However, we must be careful not to get ourselves dragged on to so call nameless disgraceful person who does not have the common courtesies, or the guts to stand on what he is so eloquently attempting to disgrace one in support of others. Just remember masters three messages.
1.) Practice Dilegently.
2.) Purify yourself
3.) Spread the teachings.
Whoever the wrong doer will face their karmic penalties. And we should keep doing what the master said as above. Keep away from all other issues. until dust settles. Please note I am not saying any of the above in malice or anger towards anyone. However, I am of the view we need to keep the ashram group to develop ourselves and avoid these issues which is more or less out of our legue; ( These are level 10 Arahatics. Where are we to make judgments? So we are better of keeping ourselves on what the master asked instead of worrying on things about Masters decision to marry Ms. Charlotte etc. )
Anyone is free to have opposing ideas. But our masters sake and our own dignity as disciples of masters we should focus on practicing the teachings of the Master only.
Good luck all of you Atmas whatever the direction you chose to lead.
With much love and affection to all out atmas.
Sashindra – Sri Lanka
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Atma Namaste Jeyakumar,
Of course all the Pranic Healers would not know what is happening in Tamil Nadu (India) If there is a group of people against Archariyas let Archariyas handle the matter which they feel most appropriate. By the way has any of the Archariyas asked you to send any of these correspondence?? If so which one. So we will be fully aware what is happening.
So who authorized to teach Prep2 and TTC ? If you are not pointing a Charlotte Madam) Since you started this you have to stand up and say very specifically who is conducting what and what is not authorized and what is not authorized according to your information.
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Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009
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Subject: Re: A mail about
Gurupatni.Charllote Anderson(who is this anderson???)
28/12/2009
Atma Namaste Sashi,
I hope that most of the Pranic Healers all over the world do not know any thing about what is happening in Tamilnadu(India). do you know Sashi atma , here the group against the Acharyas are conducting Prep=2 Teacher Training Course. Now some of the Pranic Healers other than Acharyas are conducting Prep=2 course in India.(I am not pointing CHARLOTTE MADAME.)
Institute For Inner Studies Inc & World Pranic Healing Foundations, Philipines is having the authority to conduct such courses. But very few Indian State Foundation Managing Trustees whom dislike the ACHARYAS are standing behind CHARLOTTE and doing all the games. ( Why would the trustees dislike archariyas and in this case standing behind Ms. Charlotte Anderson??
Pranic Healing School's teaching is " we are not the body ". But this group giving importance to the Physical Body and worshiping CHARLOTTE ANDERSON as Master's wife. and they are giving advertisements that "She was with the Master since last 12 years:. Atma do you know Acharya Hector was trained by our guru GMCKS since 20 years. During ealier stages when spreading Pranic Healing in India as well as In Tamilnadu, our Acharyas were slept on the road side in the tents. And they have travelled in the Local Buses & Trains to spread Pranic Healing. If an advertisement say MS CA was with Master for 12 years what is wrong with it? Does it say Archariya Hector was not trained by Master since 20 years. What is relevance of if an Archariya sleeps on the road or elsewhere got to do with any of this. If at that time there was no other place to sleep whoever the Archariya who slept on the road or under tree may have done what is practically the best under the circumstances. Which is good. However, if anyother has the finances to lodge in a 7 star or whatever the place so what. Does the person who stayed on the road makes them more spiritually higher??? Perhaps the other had much better karma. I still wondering what is the point. Have you any proof of Ms. Charlotte Anderson asking anyone to worship her???
But CHARLOTTE Madame stayed in 7 star Hotels only.
Atma Sashi do you know last 3 years our foundation have not conducted any of the Master courses will be conducted by Acharyas in our state. Where as our near by states Karnataka & Kerala have conducted more than 20 acharyas courses.
I suggest you take it up with your respective foundations as to why it is so. Have you asked ?? Have they explained any thing. Just thinking at any point of time has any Archariya not supported or turned down to come to Tamil Nadu for any reason. I am thinking loud.
By the way Is Ms. Anderson an Archariya or Master. According to what I heard she is. She is also athorized by GMCKS to conduct all the higher classes anywhere in the world. Only one to have received the
In our state many of the Pranic Healers do not know about the Acharyas.Deliberately the so called managing trustees are doing this. Could be Atma. One of the things that I noticed was there is a substantial population of Tamil Nadu Pranic Healers having difficulty in speaking and understanding English. So that could be one of the reasons. However, if any trustee are deliberately preventing others learning “ then they are bound to receive the karmic effect of being stupid.”
So 1st this group should know one the Last 3 messages of our Master " SPREAD THE TEACHINGS."
We are not supporting ACHARYAS but we are against the group whom are giving importance to the Physical Body. As I am a Pranic Healing Instructor If I conduct the Class there will be the 'flow of master's energy'. So the "flow of master's energy'' is not only own for CHARLOTTE MADAME. Who said Masters Energy is only owned by Ms Charlotte Madam. Atma Jeyakumar you have to comprehend what I stated. If the workshop has gone well chances are that Masters blessing have being there . This is known fact.
So the supporters of CHARLOTTE should,show their face out side, so they should not hide behind CHARLOTTE MADAME. So who are the supporters of Charlotte Madam ? It is your letter who has a anonymous Pranic Healer. Again you miss the point. On this issue either support Ms, CA. Or you support the Archariyas whover against the Ms. CA. Or you can be neutral like me and allow them to sort those differences. Learn from all. You can not say you are not point at MS. CA and make all these strong statements. .
Sorry atma Sashi I stop this here.
One day you come to Tamilnadu we will discuss more about this. And we will show more proof to you that,(Who is we? ) ''how about this group is insulting Acharyas and doing very bad to our state Pranic Healers.'' Yes I’ll be coming to TN soon. But we do not talk about this. Let Archariya sort themselves out. If trustees are involved let them sort this out. As far as I am concern I will learn from anyone who is willing to teach. Practice what GMCKS taught. If someone is insulting another Atma, they have not learnt Pranic Healing. You see when they insult someone they first damage their own energy body first.
We are not supporting ACHARYAS . I think you are confused sir. Why not support all the Archariyas. In one sentence you can not be willing to show more proof of that this so called group is insulting the archariyas and next you are not supporting Archariyas? Which is it? We love our Master a Lot. We love the souls who will reveal us the remaining teachings of our Master which is given to our 10 or 12 Acharyas.
If there is any mistake on my side please point out I will correct my self. In my humble opinion you are trying to do all this hopefully for the love of Pranic Healing to spread. However, considering the gravity of the issues raised it is best that we observe more than passing judgement on anyone. Obviously there are extreme politics and substantial financial issues to the top leaders, Archariyas, Trustees and the children of Master. We should send blessing to all of them to sort these issues for the sake of the teachings and their own evolvement. All should follow Masters teachings. I am really amazed at the level of disagreement experiencing at the highest level that is responsible for ensuring the spreading the teaching of our master. Remember Pranic Healing is suppose to be a spiritual organization first. Please atma, try not to get dragged in to unnecessary issues. If you think something not right is going on please keep away. You do not need to make unnecessary bad Karmas. Whatever you do, do it for the best of your ability for the Pranic Healing. Avoid getting involved in supporting one group or other based on the information made available to you. Without really investigating fully.
One of the key issues as I see is that some aspects of pranic healing is needs to be more transparent, sufficiently clearly documented (I mean the admin rules and regulations.)
Meanwhile, can you please let me know,
1.) Where does it state only Archariyas are allowed to teach Prep 2??
2.) I saw the letter by Archarya Danny . I thought it was written very professionally. We should bless all those involved to be able resolve the issues.
3.) If this sort of thing continues what will happen is that new students will just say “ If the highest level disciples of master are behaving this way, what can be expected from the junior instructors? They will keep away. With all the Solar Phloxes, and heart Chakras Agnas and Crowns getting bad energy is not going to help the Pranic Healing. So if you are willing I am going to bless all the Masters disciples. You can join me, If there are others who feels the same, I sincerely ask all of your all to bless all of them and the future of Pranic Healing.
4.) If you can let me have the response to the questions asked only. I will not have any more adverse and negative discussions on this topic. So please forgive me if I have caused you hurt or pain.
JEYAKUMAR RAJENDRAN
I will reply you tomorrow.
Thanks,
R.JEYAKUMAR.
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> Of course all the Pranic Healers would not know what is happening in Tamil
> Nadu (India) If there is a group of people against Archariyas let Archariyas
> handle the matter which they feel most appropriate. By the way has any of
> the Archariyas asked you to send any of these correspondence?? If so which
> one. So we will be fully aware what is happening.
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> So who authorized to teach Prep2 and TTC ? If you are not pointing a
> Charlotte Madam) Since you started this you have to stand up and say very
> specifically who is conducting what and what is not authorized and what is
> not authorized according to your information.
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Meanwhile, can you please let me know,
1.) Where does it state only Archariyas are allowed to teach Prep 2? (I have forwarded the mail sent by Acharya Hector)
Prashant G
we need to be very careful. we must ask for forgiveness from GMCKS for all we might have done lets do this now.
Love
Prashant
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Sent: Sat, 2 January, 2010 8:40:15 PM
Subject: RE: A mail about Gurupatni.Charllote Anderson(who is this anderson???)
My Dear Atmas
Atma Jeyakumar, thank you for sending the unnamed Pranic healer’s letter which to appears like hate mail. Someone is hiding behind the name Pranic Healer. Whoever is writing this seems to appear as if he or she was looking at all the information first hand. (Though to my soul it appears more like someone has fed this poor soul with some information and trying to discredit someone.
1.) I am not saying that any of the information in the letter is true or not. I am only saying we need to be careful when such things are being said of a person especially when that person is not there to defend it is not only unfair it is also very dangerous. Since the bad karma of bad mouthing some of f higher level is always horrible,
2.) In fairness to Ms. Charlotte Anderson whether she is using her former husbands name or Master Choa’s surname is very little relevance for all what I see it could be even her maiden name. When someone bad mouth about Ms, Anderson in this fashion all what the unamed writer of the Indian Pranic Healing fraternity is doing is insulting our own Master in making the decision to marry Ms,. Anderson . Who are we to pass judgment on any of these???
3.) I have met Ms. Anderson twice up to now, Once at the Ashram and secondly at the recent Chennai KS . I can tell you it was a wonderful event. As we all know, if the workshop goes well it is very likely it was not Ms. Anderson teaching. It was the Masters Blessing and the energy if we know Master as we are suppose to know, At any time she never said anything about Guru patini. Even when someone would want to worship her going down on their knees, she would say “please do not worship me. I am only a channel. Please offer it your Master” and show the picture of the Master or Point at the masters Shoes relics and say “Those are the Master’s Shoes. Please offer your respects to Master. His energy is there.” So anyone wanting to name her as Guru Patini as a respect for her or someone promoting Ms. Anderson with love and respect that she has for Master it the individuals who are doing it.
DEAR FRIENDS,
IAM WRITING WITH AT WORRY AT WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH PRANIC HEALING IN
INDIA . IAM
A PRANIC HEALER FROM INDIA .
THERE ARE SOME POINTS YOU NEED TO KNOW. I WAS