Tractors
chris....@gmail.com
A gentleman from Eau Claire met Eric and I at camp yesterday to look
at the tractors. He was very interested in the Kubota as well as the
Simplicity. At the last meeting Steven and I were authorized to sell
the Kubota and the MF, however we all feel that we can substantially
downsize our grass cutting fleet if we get a new Zero-Turn grass
cutter. I've found online some tractors with the same horse power and
capablities of our Simplicity, with more hours and no attachments,
selling for up to $6500 dollars. The person who was interested in the
machines has a landscaping business, and he would buy the mower deck
as well as the snow blade with the simplicity (he plows in the winter
time), and the auger bit with Kubota.
Emil, do you have any issues with us selling the Simplicity? This
still leaves us with three grass cutters for the next season if we
cannot come up with money for a new tractor and a new zero-turn. As
for cutting the grass on the beach and in the trails, we do still have
the brush hog that we can attach to the new tractor we get.
Finally, I will be posting a of paid ad in the local Equipment Trader
Magazing. This costs $75 and runs for 12 weeks.
Steve, I've been trying to get in touch with you to run this info past
you as well, so try and get back to me when you can so we can go over
some of the prices and stuff. Also, I shut the power off in the shed
yesterday so the lights by the cabins and wash houses won't be
running.
Please if anyone has questions of comments let us know. I told the
potential buyer that I'd get back to him early this week.
Have a Happy Thanksgiving.
Christopher
All Saints Camp
you have not tried to get in touch with me. I have a cell phone, a home phone, and am involved in this e-mail group, I also saw you in church last Sunday and you had nothing to say to me. I am very easy to get in touch with. Furthermore, if you are meeting a prospective buyer at the camp to discuss the sale of any items that the camp owns I would appreciate being notified that you are going to be on the grounds. I received a text message from you an hour before your meeting at the camp. That is not acceptable.
Thank you,
srs
All Saints Ukrainian Orthodox Church Camp
110 All Saints Rd. Emlenton,PA 16373
(724) 712-1364 cell
(724) 867-5811 camp
www.uocofusa.org
________________________________________
PeoplePC Online
A better way to Internet
http://www.peoplepc.com
Hans Harasimchuk
Just wonder if any headway has been made on the selling of the tractors? We need to work together and get things done, if you need additional help let me know. I'm not sure I will be much help from Ohio, but I will do what ever I can.
God bless all,
Hans
nakon...@gmail.com
this group... Lets use this tools to help communcate and not bicker
On Nov 25, 1:11 pm, "Hans Harasimchuk" <hmharasimc...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Just wonder if any headway has been made on the selling of the tractors? We
> need to work together and get things done, if you need additional help let
> me know. I'm not sure I will be much help from Ohio, but I will do what
> ever I can.
>
> God bless all,
> Hans
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Christopher Burgan
I hope that we all had a good Thanksgiving. I just want to get an official Yes or No about selling the Simplicity (with the mower deck and the snow blade) and the auger bit with the Kubota. Eric, Hans, and I all feel that this is okay, but again, I'd like to get moving asap. Any imput/discussion regarding this idea?
With the MF, I have incorrect model numbers. I have been talking to some people on a tractor forum, and it turns out that the loader is the MF34 and the backhoe is the MF54. A Massey "expert" saw the pictures I have of the machine and is pretty sure that it is a MF30 or a MF40. I need to make sure that the info I post future ads with is accurate. He also told me where to find the tractor's model number plate. Steve if you are up at camp before I am, can you look under the dash on either the right hand or left hand side. It isn't the serial plate that is on the arm of the loader or the one on the side by the oil filter. Also, do you know if it is 3cyl or 4cyl? I thought it was a 3, but the guy who I spoke with said he thinks its a 4cyl Perkins diesel. Maybe we can ask Mr Zebel, Mr Barker or someone who may know some more. I just do not want to give potential buyers bad information.
Thanks!
Christopher
Christopher John
nakon...@gmail.com
Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed
From: "Christopher Burgan"
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 17:16:05 -0500
To: <ascmaintena...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Tractors
Hans Harasimchuk
All Saints Camp
-----Original Message-----
From: nakon...@gmail.com
Sent: Dec 2, 2008 5:59 PM
To: ascmaintena...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tractors
I am alright will selling them so long as we don't find ourselves in a bind without the equipment that we need. That's my two cents for the rest of 2008Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed
From: "Christopher Burgan"
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 17:16:05 -0500
To: <ascmaintena...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Tractors
Hello Everyone,
Christopher Burgan
The only specific areas we use the simplicity to cut is the beach front and the clearing on the top of the hill, both of which can be cut with the brush hog. The auger does come in handy, but we do not use it that often (and it is difficult and dangerous to use). As for the snow blade, I do not think we have any use for it. And this still leaves us with three grass cutters (the Gravely, CubCadet, and the Power King) for the next season.
Christopher John
nakon...@gmail.com
So this pirate walks into a bar... Stop me if u have heard this one before
Michael
Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed
From: "Christopher Burgan"
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:54:14 -0500
Christopher John
Hans Harasimchuk
I agree with Chris' comment about "discussing the selling of the machines at the previous meeting, and having permission to sell , the Kubota and the MF." At the previous meeting You and Chris together were given the power to sell both the Kubota and the MF by the board.
Chris is now asking about the Simplicity? Since the Simplicity was not discussed at the previous meeting, my opinion is this is the perfect place to discuss the selling of the Simplicity. This is a maintenance issue and the maintenance committee has been responding to the emails. Waiting until the next meeting creates the possibility of losing a sale and will only make our long meetings even longer.
Do you think we should sell the Simplicity? How do you feel about the possibility of only having 3 grass cutters next season? I would like to hear your opinion on this matter being you are the one that has used the tractors the most in recent years.
Respectfully,
Hans
Eric Senedak
I agree with Michael that reducing the number of tractors will greatly reduce the cost of maintaining the equipment. I also agree with Hans that this is a perfect forum to discuss any camp related matters quickly and efficiently. The next meeting is in February and I believe that is to far away to wait to discuss these issues. Regarding the Simplicity, I am OK with selling the machine. However, we should price new cutters that could replace it. Chris and I have priced some zero turn cutters recently. We also found out the there is a special discount that we as a not-for-profit would qualify which would dramatically reduce the cost. The retailer that we spoke to said we could possible get a machine for about $500 over the dealer cost.
nakon...@gmail.com
Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed
From: "Eric Senedak"
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 10:54:53 -0500
To: <ascmaintena...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Tractors
Eric Senedak
nakon...@gmail.com
Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed
From: "Eric Senedak"
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 11:20:55 -0500
To: <ascmaintena...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Tractors
All Saints Camp
Hello all,
I am writing with my thoughts regarding the sale of the tractors.
I am concerned about selling the Simplicity. There are 2 locations at camp that can be cut only by the Simplicity. The first is the Riverfront. The second is the hill from the millennium building down to the road. No other tractors can safely cut those areas.
The riverfront can be cut using the Brush hog. The only problem is that right now, we do not have a tractor capable of operating the brush hog (the Kubota is the only one).
At the last ASC committee meeting, we were authorized to sell the MF and the Kubota and look into purchasing a tractor of similar capabilities (with a hoe and a loader). This type of tractor surely can operate the brush hog, so the riverfront will be able to be cut.
The Millennium building hill is another story. The brush hog cannot be used there, as we need a finishing mower there. None of the other tractors are capable of cutting that hill safely.
The way I see it, if we sell the Simplicity, we are committing to needing 2 new tractors prior to the start of the 2009 season. One to replace the Kubota’s brush hogging capabilities (as well as pulling the hay wagon as previously discussed and approved), and a second grass cutter to replace the Simplicity’s grass cutting on a hill capabilities. If a new zero-turn mower could do the job (I’m not sure, could it be a rollover hazard)? The question becomes, do we really have the money to buy 2 different tractors right now. We will need money for renovations of wash houses, Millennium Bldg bathrooms, commercial washer and dryer...
Also, with a down economy, might see a decrease in camp enrollments. Obviously, it is too soon to tell what our numbers will be in 2009, but I think we might do best to be conservative right now.
The MF is serviceable. The grass cutters are all working. Worst case scenario, If we do not get a new tractor, the only capability we would not have in 2009 is that of pulling the hay wagon. I DO agree with our original plan of selling the Kubota and MF and replacing them with a tractor of similar capabilities (with a back hoe and a loader).
As for selling the auger bit, it is true that we do not use it a lot. However, we do use it. I am not sure that the potential buyer is willing to pay enough for it to compensate us for the inconvenience of not having it. If we need to leave camp once or twice per year to drive somewhere and rent a post driver, those costs will add up over time. If the buyer is looking to buy it for a small sum of money, we would do better just to hold onto it. The implements that we have (the auger bits, brush hog, cement mixer) do not cost us anything but are invaluable when needed.
In summary, I agree with our original plan of selling the Kubota and MF and replacing them with a tractor of similar capabilities (with a back hoe and a loader). At this time, I do not support selling the Simplicity for financial reasons.
Thanks for hearing me out.
Stephen
-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Senedak
Sent: Dec 3, 2008 10:54 AM
To: ascmaintena...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tractors
Hello everyone,
I agree with Michael that reducing the number of tractors will greatly reduce the cost of maintaining the equipment. I also agree with Hans that this is a perfect forum to discuss any camp related matters quickly and efficiently. The next meeting is in February and I believe that is to far away to wait to discuss these issues. Regarding the Simplicity, I am OK with selling the machine. However, we should price new cutters that could replace it. Chris and I have priced some zero turn cutters recently. We also found out the there is a special discount that we as a not-for-profit would qualify which would dramatically reduce the cost. The retailer that we spoke to said we could possible get a machine for about $500 over the dealer cost.Eric
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:45 PM, Hans Harasimchuk <hmhara...@gmail.com> wrote:
Steve,
I agree with Chris' comment about "discussing the selling of the machines at the previous meeting, and having permission to sell , the Kubota and the MF." At the previous meeting You and Chris together were given the power to sell both the Kubota and the MF by the board.
Chris is now asking about the Simplicity? Since the Simplicity was not discussed at the previous meeting, my opinion is this is the perfect place to discuss the selling of the Simplicity. This is a maintenance issue and the maintenance committee has been responding to the emails. Waiting until the next meeting creates the possibility of losing a sale and will only make our long meetings even longer.
Do you think we should sell the Simplicity? How do you feel about the possibility of only having 3 grass cutters next season? I would like to hear your opinion on this matter being you are the one that has used the tractors the most in recent years.
Respectfully,
Hans
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 6:41 PM, All Saints Camp <allsai...@peoplepc.com> wrote:I agree with Michael. I think it is important to meet face to face to discuss this prior to selling any of the equipment.
All Saints Camp
Hello all,
I am writing with my thoughts regarding the sale of the tractors.
I am concerned about selling the Simplicity. There are 2 locations at camp that can be cut only by the Simplicity. The first is the Riverfront. The second is the hill from the millennium building down to the road. No other tractors can safely cut those areas.
The riverfront can be cut using the Brush hog. The only problem is that right now, we do not have a tractor capable of operating the brush hog (the Kubota is the only one).
At the last ASC committee meeting, we were authorized to sell the MF and the Kubota and look into purchasing a tractor of similar capabilities (with a hoe and a loader). This type of tractor surely can operate the brush hog, so the riverfront will be able to be cut.
The Millennium building hill is another story. The brush hog cannot be used there, as we need a finishing mower there. None of the other tractors are capable of cutting that hill safely.
The way I see it, if we sell the Simplicity, we are committing to needing 2 new tractors prior to the start of the 2009 season. One to replace the Kubota’s brush hogging capabilities (as well as pulling the hay wagon as previously discussed and approved), and a second grass cutter to replace the Simplicity’s grass cutting on a hill capabilities. If a new zero-turn mower could do the job (I’m not sure, could it be a rollover hazard)? The question becomes, do we really have the money to buy 2 different tractors right now. We will need money for renovations of wash houses, Millennium Bldg bathrooms, commercial washer and dryer...
Also, with a down economy, might see a decrease in camp enrollments. Obviously, it is too soon to tell what our numbers will be in 2009, but I think we might do best to be conservative right now.
The MF is serviceable. The grass cutters are all working. Worst case scenario, If we do not get a new tractor, the only capability we would not have in 2009 is that of pulling the hay wagon. I DO agree with our original plan of selling the Kubota and MF and replacing them with a tractor of similar capabilities (with a back hoe and a loader).
As for selling the auger bit, it is true that we do not use it a lot. However, we do use it. I am not sure that the potential buyer is willing to pay enough for it to compensate us for the inconvenience of not having it. If we need to leave camp once or twice per year to drive somewhere and rent a post driver, those costs will add up over time. If the buyer is looking to buy it for a small sum of money, we would do better just to hold onto it. The implements that we have (the auger bits, brush hog, cement mixer) do not cost us anything but are invaluable when needed.
In summary, I agree with our original plan of selling the Kubota and MF and replacing them with a tractor of similar capabilities (with a back hoe and a loader). At this time, I do not support selling the Simplicity for financial reasons.
Thanks for hearing me out.
Stephen
Hans Harasimchuk
Thanks for the input. Perhaps we should just concentrate on the selling of the Kubota and the MF along with finding the replacement for them. After that gets taken care of we can address the grass cutter situation.
nakon...@gmail.com
Michael Nakonachny
Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed
From: "Hans Harasimchuk"
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 14:54:19 -0500
To: <ascmaintena...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Tractors