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I've recently been looking into these myself, wondering if they are worth getting. Geez, there are a lot of these fuel saving devices out there, from magnets supposed to realign fuel molecules (as well as the space-time continuum), to great big capacitors to say that slight voltage differences do not allow the fuel mixture in the combustion chamber to burn properly. Big problem in researching these, is that most of the sites you encounter are selling the damn things...

I had a good mate with a dyno who has checked a whole range of devices including the Hi-Clone. I fitted one to my Landcruiser. A before and after dyno check showed no change at all and he said this was his consistent result. The only device he found that showed a result was a Fuelstar. I managed to get a few at wholesale price and fitted two of them. One in the wet gas line and the other on the petrol. The result was very good especially on the LPG, pronounced power increase. The Fuelstar and other similar catalysts are WWII technology basically a tin compound that increases the octane rating developed by the Brits so that Spitfires and Hurricanes could fly on lower octane fuels in Europe at the time. A bonus is they keep the engine very clean, however they are not cheap at normal retail. Other friends fitted them also with good results and I still get inquiries for them.

Tried them - a bit more power but consumption went up (diesel). Supplier said Terracan ran pretty lean, did not expect a major benefit so refunded money - will provide a refund if not satisfied so nothing to lose in trying them (2 fitted)

Personally I am looking at diesel/gas - will probably get a 15% improvement in fuel consumption + increase torque. Net cost after $2000 rebate is about $2500 (exhaust has to be re routed. Main benefit is reduction in emissions and a clean engine - cleaner oil - longer engine life. There are a number of suppliers and the systems are not the same so check them out carefully. Gas tank is 25 l - uses gas/diesel at approx 1 to 4.

The guys that took over Fuelstar. I think it was actually Hiclone must not have lots of stuff that I had that showed test results. I still have a few in my garage (I got them for about $250 for up to a 4.5 litre engine), but have not fitted one to the CRDi as I'm not sure whether the alloy particles could cause problems with injectors as they have such fine tolerances. They were certainly very good on the pre CR diesels better in fact than on petrol. Unfortunately I recently tossed out all my literature on them.

I have had a look at the diesel gas. It is $1000 cheaper in WA as we get an additional rebate. The only reason that I have not gone ahead is that I still have over 2 years of warranty left and as the diesel gas gives significantly more power it could stuff the warranty. I have not checked with Hyundai but plan to do so as it would only cost me about $800 net.

My mate had 2 in his turboed patrol, One day it developed a rattle and he didnt know what it was. 6months later he pulled the head off thinking he did a spring or something and found part of the hyclone broken off and had been smashed into the head for so long by the piston he was up for a new head.

Only Fitch put its product the fuel cataylyst F300 in-line, up for the test out of ALL the manuafacturers invited to do so. RACQ'S executive manager of vehicle technologies, Steve Spalding, said results showed no change in fuel consumption in either of the two test vehicles when fitted with the fuel saving device.

The test also showed no substantial reduction in exhaust emissions. On the contrary there was an increase in nitrogen oxides (NOx) and total hydrocarbon (THC) from one of the test vehicles Mr Spalding said.

I was looking at putting higher watt bulbs in the headlights next time I'm in town, October I hope, I think the standard ones are all 55 watt. I was thinking about 100 watt. Problem is I allso have the LightForce spots and usually run a fridge as well, will the standard electrics carry this plus upgraded headlight bulbs?

Also, ANTS may know this one, how difficult is it to screw up the front torsion bars? Does it give much more hight? I have the TnT kit which has raised the rear about 20mm but not the front so the car now sits with a bit of a slop, would I get 10-15mm lift without throwing all the front wheel alignment and so on out?

The tortion bars should be easy to lift with the adjusting bolts (I havent done it though) but any lift will dramatically effect your alignment. I lifted my Vitara 30mm and had to fork out $135 for camber bolts to get the alignment back within specifications.

There is no need to put higher wattage bulbs in the Terracan, both low and high beam use a H7 type globe on the same globe. Use a globe that has a plus 50 rating and the good ones are made by Philips, this will cost about $60 for a pair.

Do not touch the high beam (I have driving lights) make sure the driving lights are a good brand with good wiring and relays, 100 watters are ok. He did the calculations and said the alternator could handle this no problems as well as run other items.

Thanks for the advice. It may just be that you get used to the spotties but when going from high to low beam it is like the lights go out. I had a small incident the other night coming up out of a river crossing and had 2 horses on the road at long range in the spotties, a truck came round a bend about 1.5k away so I went to low beam and completely lost the horses. I slowed right down to about 35k but still found out how well the ABS & EBD work (very well) but it gave me a big fright. I hit a horse in a Patrol once and the car was not pretty after that, the bullbar was nearly in my lap.

I have a similar problem with lights, I tried some of the uprated Halogen, which worked a bit better. But my friend has fitted a proper Xenon replacement (not the 75W Halogen with a bit of Xenon gas) but the full Xenon bulbs with the extra ballast booster box. They only draw 35W and put out 3 times the light. They cost just under $600 for a pair, but when you compare that to the price of the car, and especially the difference they make even on low beam. I am going to save up for a set.

Fitting Xenon or higher wattage lights will make the light output brighter or whiter, but will not throw the light significantly further, especially on low beam. The distance low (and other) beam travels is determined by the shape of the reflector and the lens the light leaves through.

Jonesfam, you might be better off buying a cheap pair of 55w fog lights that you can whack on your bull bar and swivel off to the side to see animals but still keep the beam low for oncoming traffic. I used to do this when driving through central victoria - lots of roos. At least with a cheap pair, if they get trashed, it's not a lot of money. There are some entirely suitable lights for $50-$70.

Now that is a good Idea. I could hang them below the Lightforce jobs upside down and aim them well out to the sides. It would help with the pigs and all the other beasties we have wondering around our great unfenced Gulf roads.

I agree there are cheaper solutions to lighting problems. But just to keep adding more lights and relays etc.. can also bring so many more problems. My previous stock standard 2yr old car had alternator failure 200km from town. The drive back to town with power down caused failure of both my computer and the ABS computer. Lucky for me it was still under warranty.

I have fitted the full Xenon conversion to only my low beam for just under $500. I agree the lens focus of standard headlights is not as good as some spots. But if the light source behind the lens is 3 times brighter, the range is longer. But the one thing which really amazed me was the width of the beam. Don't knock Xenon until you've driven a car with them. One journalist described going back to a car with convetional lights to a candle in dark. I'm an convert, and I can possibly take my kit to my next car.

Didn't realise just how dull the low beams were till I had to drive the missus down the M1 to Coolangatta Airport last night. (haven't driven it, much at night). Although the Terracan has good beam spread the lights are very dull when compared with a new Falcon etc, & you notice this as they drive past in the next lane & cut into your beam. In my opinion when you hit Hi Beam this would bring it up to the light intensity of the others on Low Beam.

I'm not knocking the Xenons, in fact, I have been considering them myself. What I am saying is that the shape of the low beams is determined by the reflectors and is designed to point down onto the road at quite a steep angle with the passanger side extending further forward than the drivers side. As you know, this is a safety measure for oncoming drivers.