Kubuntu and Arora

[riddell]

Hi. At the recent Ubuntu summit the Kubuntu developers decided we
would like to ship with Arora as the default web browser.

Could you tell us your current release plans and schedule and how that
fits in with the Ubuntu release schedule? We would need upstreams to
be in a shipable state by the end of September.

We came up with a wishlist of features we'd like to see in Arora.
Could you comment on which are likely to be achievable for our
release?

https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuKarmicWebbrowser

Here's looking forward to an exciting upstream relationship

Jonathan

[Benjamin Meyer]

On Jun 15, 2009, at 11:37 AM, riddell wrote:

>
> Hi. At the recent Ubuntu summit the Kubuntu developers decided we
> would like to ship with Arora as the default web browser.
>
> Could you tell us your current release plans and schedule and how that
> fits in with the Ubuntu release schedule? We would need upstreams to
> be in a shipable state by the end of September.

We try to make a release every 4-8 weeks and each release is stable.
So we will probably have two releases or so between now and the end
September.

>
> We came up with a wishlist of features we'd like to see in Arora.
> Could you comment on which are likely to be achievable for our
> release?
>
> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuKarmicWebbrowser

Facebook has been fixed. It was a cookie parsing bug in 4.5.1 so
4.5.2 will fix it.
I'm feeling lucky we should be able to do very quickly
Saving forms depending on if we use the new dom api might require 4.6
without a javascript fallback, I have started work on this
There is a branch with some adblock started, should get that done and
in soon.
Not sure about flash installing, need to get a list of available
plugins first
Importing should be easy
I started a branch with a start page, it has a crude html file, anyone
interested in making a good html start page?

- Forwarding protocols such as sftp:// to the appropriate application.
- This should already happen
- Support Java applets. - Qt 4.7 at the earliest, requires support in
qtwebkit.

A little bit of work has gone into the Awesomebar and the extensions,
no date on them yet.

-Benjamin Meyer

[Zsombor]

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 18:15, Benjamin Meyer <b...@meyerhome.net> wrote:

Facebook has been fixed.  It was a cookie parsing bug in 4.5.1 so 4.5.2 will fix it.

When will the 4.5.2 be released ?

 

I'm feeling lucky we should be able to do very quickly
Saving forms depending on if we use the new dom api might require 4.6 without a javascript fallback, I have started work on this
There is a branch with some adblock started, should get that done and in soon.

Yes, really soon , I'm hopeful :)

 

Zsombor

[lunarcloud]

what does this start page need? I didn't read it in the spec.

[lunarcloud]

Nevermind:

"The initial page should be a simple text field pointing at the
default search engine."

[Benjamin Meyer]

Very similar to the Firefox one, a search box, a logo, something
simple. :)

-Benjamin Meyer

[Fernando Lemos]

Hi,

I have XHTML + CSS skills, in case no one else volunteers I can cook
something up.

Regards,

2009/6/15 Benjamin Meyer <b...@meyerhome.net>:

[Tulio Magno Quites Machado Filho]

On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:35 AM, Benjamin Meyer<b...@meyerhome.net> wrote:
>
> Very similar to the Firefox one, a search box, a logo, something simple. :)

And what about something like Chrome or Opera?

IMHO, we already have a search field in the screen (maybe 2 with the
location bar). If we could add something different on this page, it
could be more interesting for users.
And I think Qt already support this:
http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2008/11/03/thumbnail-preview-of-web-page/

Best regards,

--
Tulio Magno

[Benjamin Meyer]

Actually good question, Jonathan are you looking to have a specific
start page or just 'a start page'? I have started work on a top10
page like chrome and opera have, currently it is no more then a list
of links, no thumbnails or anything, but it is generated from the
history.

-Benjamin Meyer

[lunarcloud]

As do I, though I have no idea how to do "the
default search engine". Can that be done in Javascript?

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[Benjamin Meyer]

That can easily be added in after the fact, for making the html page
you can just point it to google

-Benjamin Meyer

[Fernando Lemos]

Consider this a thought experiment:

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/5232/arorahome.png

(looks familiar, doesn't it? :-P)

Is that what you guys had in mind?

It was a 10 minute job, but it's not a mockup. I used CSS3 gradients,
no images (except for the Arora logo). I'm unsure about the logo, I
think I could have avoided position: absolute.

Firefox uses a Google page as its initial page, that way it's really
easy for them to have an internationalized home page, they're allowed
to use the Google logo (of course, it's hosted at google.com) and
things like that. If we want internationalization, we'll probably have
to go with template substitution.

Anyways, the rounded corners are supposed to be antialised, I think Qt
doesn't do antialising for Webkit yet, though (in Safari it's supposed
to work fine).

Regards,

2009/6/16 Benjamin Meyer <b...@meyerhome.net>:

[Benjamin Meyer]

Very nice! Much better then mine :) Want to post the html file?

-Benjamin Meyer

[Jakub Wieczorek]

On 17 Cze, 02:55, Fernando Lemos <fernando...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Consider this a thought experiment:

I like it! That's a nice starting point, using the default search
engine rather than Google should be quite easy to implement.

> Firefox uses a Google page as its initial page, that way it's really
> easy for them to have an internationalized home page, they're allowed
> to use the Google logo (of course, it's hosted at google.com) and
> things like that. If we want internationalization, we'll probably have
> to go with template substitution.

That's what we do in the error page so sounds good to me.

> Anyways, the rounded corners are supposed to be antialised, I think Qt
> doesn't do antialising for Webkit yet, though (in Safari it's supposed
> to work fine).

Yeah, it is fixed in trunk.
http://trac.webkit.org/changeset/43340

[Fernando Lemos]

Glad you guys liked it. The logo placement is hacky and doesn't work
well when you resize the window, but other than that the rest of the
page is decent I'll take a look at the logo later.

Not sure the attachments will get through, let's see.

Regards,

2009/6/17 Jakub Wieczorek <faw...@gmail.com>:

[lunarcloud]

looks like much of the required features are slated for 0.8:


___________________________________________________________________________________
There is a bug involving cookie handling in Qt which means sites such
as facebook fail to login. √

Typing plain text into the URL bar should send the user to the result
from Google's I'm Feeling Lucky √

Passwords for HTTP auth and HTML forms should be saved using KWallet.

There should be an advert blocking feature which is pre-seeded with a
sensible list of adverts. (is this planned?)

Flash should prompt to be installed when a user visits a website which
uses Flash.

It should import bookmarks from Konqueror and Firefox without the user
having to find his existing bookmarks file.

The initial page should be a simple text field pointing at the default

search engine. √

The Edit -> Preferences menu option should be moved to Tools ->
Configure Arora.
____________________________________________________________________

3/8 as far as I know.

Update on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuKarmicWebbrowser ?

[Benjamin Meyer]

0.8 String freeze is Friday/Saturday and 0.8 will be a week later so
some of it will have to wait till 0.9 of course

-Benjamin Meyer

[Zsombor]

On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 04:35, Benjamin Meyer <b...@meyerhome.net> wrote:

0.8 String freeze is Friday/Saturday and 0.8 will be a week later so some of it will have to wait till 0.9 of course

-Benjamin Meyer

I hope you can merge the adblocker before the freeze, this would be one more fullfilled feature request.

BR,
 Zsombor