Hawk Mountain ARLISS bulk buy

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Becky Green

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Oct 19, 2011, 7:56:43 PM10/19/11
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Hi all,
Well, it's that time of year....time to build rockets.  I am going to be putting together an ARLISS bulk buy for Hawk Mountain.  If you need parts to repair or parts to build a new ARLISS M or K rocket and want to get in on the ARLISS discount, please contact me off list apfu...@yahoo.com and let me know what your are interested in purchasing.
Thanks, Beck

Becky Green

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Nov 7, 2011, 2:11:28 PM11/7/11
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Hi everyone,
I'd like to place the order by 11/15 so please get me your list soon.  I hope to get everything by the y/e party so I can hand deliver. 
Thanks, Beck

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Allen J. Palmer

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Nov 7, 2011, 2:28:48 PM11/7/11
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Becky

 

A 12” coupler to be used as a arliss carrier

 

Allen Palmer

Peter

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Mar 16, 2012, 10:54:58 AM3/16/12
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I understand that the aluminum fin can and fins are no longer being produced. Does anyone have the cad drawings for these? I would like to look into having someone else produce them…

 

Or if anyone has the fin can and fins laying around that they do not need I would be interested in purchasing them from you.

 

Cheers

PC

John Coker

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Mar 16, 2012, 11:01:22 AM3/16/12
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I have one of the CF kits that were produced a few years ago, still unopened in its box.  If anyone is interested, I'll be happy to sell it for whatever we paid at that time.

John

Peter

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Mar 16, 2012, 11:12:30 AM3/16/12
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Ok..I admit I am “new” to ARLISS…what is the CF kit?

 

PC

Jonathan DuBose

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Mar 16, 2012, 11:26:07 AM3/16/12
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Tom Rouse still had ARLISS fins and the longer and shorter "cans" fairly recently.  I ordered and received a set of fins and a short aluminum "can" about a year ago.  He doesn't advertise them anywhere I can though.
 
I am curious about a CF (Carbon Fiber?) fin can also. 
 
Jonathan

Ken Biba

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Mar 16, 2012, 1:13:11 PM3/16/12
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CF kit?   More detail please. Unknown and curious. 

K

Ken Biba
Novarum, Inc. 

John Coker

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Mar 16, 2012, 1:32:17 PM3/16/12
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There was an 6" ARLISS rocket kit with a carbon fiber airframe put together by someone a few years ago.  Maybe the person who did it, or someone who's built theirs could share the details?  (Mine is still unopened in its box.)

John

Jonathan DuBose

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Mar 16, 2012, 1:58:23 PM3/16/12
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John,
 
I ran into Curtis Turner of Performance Rocketry at Balls 16 and he had a beautiful 6" (I think) CF fin can. Didn't pay that much attention to it at the time (pre-ARLISS days) and he had torked me off pretty badly a few months before.  Never saw a production copy of it. 
 

What did you pay for the CF can?  I might be interested. 
 
Jonathan
 
 

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Lee Teicheira

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Mar 16, 2012, 2:24:58 PM3/16/12
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I have an aluminum fin can and a set of fins that I would sell. I bought them about 5 years ago. Don't remember what I paid, but it was the going rate of the day. Would gladly sell them to somebody that will use them for the same price.

Lee

Allen J. Palmer

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Mar 16, 2012, 2:37:59 PM3/16/12
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Size and price   please

 

Allen Palmer

 

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I have an aluminum fin can and a set of fins that I would sell. I bought them about 5 years ago. Don't remember what I paid, but it was the going rate of the day. Would gladly sell them to somebody that will use them for the same price.

Peter

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Mar 16, 2012, 2:53:02 PM3/16/12
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Does anyone recall what the prices were back in the day?

 

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I have an aluminum fin can and a set of fins that I would sell. I bought them about 5 years ago. Don't remember what I paid, but it was the going rate of the day. Would gladly sell them to somebody that will use them for the same price.

tfi...@aol.com

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Mar 16, 2012, 3:43:08 PM3/16/12
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vafew years ago? Like 10 years ago..Pius had a carbon fiber ARLISS rocket he ga


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tfi...@aol.com

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Mar 16, 2012, 3:44:20 PM3/16/12
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dang lap top...Pius gave it to Bob Fortune he gave it to me..I flew it once and lost it.
 
Tony


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Allen J. Palmer

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Mar 16, 2012, 3:46:56 PM3/16/12
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If they are from Rouse, call tom and ask him

 

Allen Palmer

Ken Biba

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Mar 16, 2012, 3:54:35 PM3/16/12
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Oh my. Archival.  And the original airframe was with Black Sky tubing and fins. About that time. 

K

Ken Biba
Novarum, Inc. 

Richard Hagen

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Mar 16, 2012, 4:04:33 PM3/16/12
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Since Lee's selling them, I recall the fin set was $5 and the fincan was $10 :)

RH



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Geoff Huber

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Mar 16, 2012, 4:17:44 PM3/16/12
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If memory serves me…

Back in the day when I purchased my set..  set of 4 fins from Blacksky was $80 and fin can from the club was $80

 

That was from the first run of cans.   That’s what I recall paying when I did ARLISS.  YMMV

 

Ken Biba

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Mar 16, 2012, 5:58:51 PM3/16/12
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Be nice.   Is it negotiating or just because it is Lee?

K

save children

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Mar 16, 2012, 6:58:20 PM3/16/12
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Good price I'll pay 7 and 12


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Grant Saviers

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Mar 16, 2012, 7:07:59 PM3/16/12
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Bob Feretich & I designed and built an internal fin frame and motor retainer that uses the Rouse ARLISS fins.  http://feretich.com/Rocketry/SuperArliss/Gallery/FinFrames/100LightenedFinFrame.jpg

All the design docs and pictures of the machining are at http://feretich.com/Rocketry/superarliss.html  in the section "Common Components" and later.  I'd loan the fin bar rounding fixture if you have a lathe big enough.

They have flown many times in our ARLISS rockets and met the design goal of durability.

Grant

Ken Biba

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Mar 16, 2012, 7:11:02 PM3/16/12
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Is there an Internet machining site for these?

K

Ken Biba
Novarum, Inc. 

Thomas Kernes

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Mar 17, 2012, 12:24:06 AM3/17/12
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I did something similar.  Had the centering rings machined and then bolted them together with the coupler.  Works pretty well with a machined tailcone that is tapped for the all thread.  Start at the bottom and build up to the coupler.

Rings, tailcone and spare rings ran few hundred to get it done.  I don't have access to the machining equipment otherwise.

Lee Teicheira

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Mar 17, 2012, 5:25:30 PM3/17/12
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Thanks Geoff

That's the numbers that I remember. Just wasn't sure. I bought the fins new. I am the second owner of the fin can. I seem to remember paying $60 for the can. So I would take $140 for the fin can and 4 fins. All new and unused.

I also have RMS-98/7680 hardware that I would sell. Aerotech tube and aft closure, and Dr Rocket forward. Again, I'm the second owner. Only a couple of ARLISS flights by the original owner. I paid $240. Will accept same.

All came from Tom. Either directly or indirectly. Gladly delver part way in the Bay Area. It would be good to see this stuff flying Cansats.

Lee

Oh. Geff, I almost forgot. I seem to have a new opening on my friends list under 'H'. I have you penciled into that spot...  ;-)

Hi Richard...  :-)

save children

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Mar 17, 2012, 8:26:51 PM3/17/12
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Are all Arliss Flyers required to be Tripolli?
 
Charlie KI6PQQ
LUNAR #1405, http://www.lunar.org
Aero-Pac # 699 http://www.aeropac.org
NAR [L3] #85655, http://www.nar.org
Tripoli [L3} #11202 www.tripoli.org


 

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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 22:58:20 +0000

Richard Hagen

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Mar 18, 2012, 12:46:03 AM3/18/12
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All adult flyers at Aero-Pac launches are required to be Tripoli members.

RH



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Allen J. Palmer

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Mar 18, 2012, 1:18:16 AM3/18/12
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RH   is that by age or behavior

 

Allen Palmer

Richard Hagen

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Mar 18, 2012, 1:09:01 PM3/18/12
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Age. I was making reference to the exceptions in the revised Research Safety Code. These exceptions specifically allow both student participation and model rocket activities, but will require some minor changes to our rangehead procedures. All Aero-Pac launches this year are designated as Research Launches, so all adult participants must be Tripoli members to fly.

7.2.1.1. Exception: Non-Tripoli Members age 18 and over that are students of an accredited educational institution may participate in joint projects with Tripoli members. These individuals are allowed in the Research/high power launch area if escorted by a Tripoli member. The maximum number of non member participants shall not exceed 5 per Tripoli Member.

7.2.1.2. Exception: Children younger then 18 years of age may conduct flights from the Model Rocket Launch Area under the direction of an adult Tripoli Member. These individuals are not allowed in the Research/High Power Launch Areas except for recovery of rockets launched from the Model Rocket Launch Area and only then if the Research/High Power Launch Area is open and there are no rockets being launched from there.

There are other relevant changes to the Research Safety Code and anyone interested can find it here.  http://us.mg203.mail.yahoo.com/dc/launch?rand=2018730334

RH



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Richard Hagen

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Mar 18, 2012, 1:27:21 PM3/18/12
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Hmmmmmm, try this for the Research Safety Code link
http://www.tripoli.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=Sq6meBz5mUU=&tabid=86
 
RH



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save children

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Mar 18, 2012, 9:35:32 PM3/18/12
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Richard and all thanks for the great answers.

C


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