ArgoNet's Webmail - What? How? Why?
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"What"?
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Although many will be aware of ArgoNet's Webmail,
for those who've yet to meet Webmail, it's very
easy to use, believe it or not!
Wemail is also, initially, rapid loading and
reasonably sensitive/intuitive in use.
ArgoNet's Webmail is similar to MSN's 'Hotmail.com'
For an ArgoNet subscriber the account is already set
up and in operation.
"How"?
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You may reach your Webmail account directly, using
your web browser from:
http://email.argonet.co.uk/cgi-bin/newwebmail/argomail.cgi
This will open a window which asks you for your
User Account - let's say ukarg/xa99 - although
you only need use the xa99 bit.
You are then asked for your logon password.
This is, usually, an eight letter password.
It is important to remember that your
password may be case-sensitive - so repeat
it exactly as given.
If you have forgotten the password, then either
!VoyDetails will extract it for you - or else
request it from Support, who will advise you by
email.
You will then be presented with a normal Fresco,
Oregano, whatever, webpage - with the titles of
you emails listed - alongside each of which are
their individual sizes and a tick box to select
one, other or all.
Above the list are various options, such as open,
delete, write etc.
Selecting, (ticking), the obvious biggy spams
without opening them will allow you to delete
the rubbish at one fell swoop - it takes a fraction
of a second!
You can, of course, continue by opening your mail
and reading/replying as normal - directly from
this personal webmail space - or cancel Fresco,
Oregano etc and return to normal email - down-
loading the remaining as normal.
"Why"?
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The disadvantage of using webmail is that it is
an online system and therefore may be more
more expensive than the one shot up/down load
of normal email.
The advantage of Webmail is that it may be used
from any 'net-friendly browser and/or any machine
or operating system anywhere in the World. Your
email is available 24/7 and access is not limited
by software or geography.
Hope this is an enlightening answer for those
who have yet to use Webmail.
Bill
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Thu,16 Aug 2001.09:24:55
Al
couldn't have put it better if I tried.
one small detail.. web mail I believe it still under development,
there are aspects of webmail that will be changed..
one being the address..
I know for sure the address that won't change is
this will redirect to the appropreate pages from there..
Thanks once again.
Martyn Fox
wrote:
> The advantage of Webmail is that it may be used from any 'net-friendly
> browser and/or any machine or operating system anywhere in the World.
> Your email is available 24/7 and access is not limited by software or
> geography.
I used it to send an email to my kids from an Internet cafe in Venice, to
let them know we'd arrived.
Martyn
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Rosemary Miskin
wrote:
> I used it to send an email to my kids from an Internet cafe in Venice, to
> let them know we'd arrived.
>
As I did from a free internet terminal in our hotle in Florence last year -
just because I could!
Mre seriously, Son1 will be getting his own argo account shortly, and will
be able to access his email - time permitting - wherever in the world he is.
- Hungary today!
Rosemary
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Tennant Stuart
> If you have forgotten the password, then either
> !VoyDetails will extract it for you - or else
> request it from Support, who will advise you by
> email.
What's !VoyDetails?
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Steven Pampling <steve.p...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <4aaad68...@billsimpson.com>,
> <ad...@billsimpson.com> wrote:
> Yeah, that's it, encourage everybody by praising it *so* much.
> Hotmail (spit) !!!!
> Good job it wasn't zfc - bad language isn't allowed.
Ooops! Nor is it here! ;)) Contrite, spits too..
We had Sir Christopher who was determined to use
'Hoxxxxxxxx.com', until he was pursuaded that he can
use ArgoNet's Webmail, with oooodles more security,
from New Zealand, Hawaii, Alaska and wherever else
he travels yearly!
Bill
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Sat,18 Aug 2001.19:45:59
ad...@billsimpson.com
Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <4aaad68...@billsimpson.com>, <ad...@billsimpson.com>
> wrote:
> > If you have forgotten the password, then either
> > !VoyDetails will extract it for you - or else
> > request it from Support, who will advise you by
> > email.
> What's !VoyDetails?
A proggy for ArgoNet subscribers using the !Voyager
Suite that extracts various details about their own
account.. such as User name and their encrypted
password.. needed for accessing things like ArgoNet's
Webmail.
the proggy was somewhere on the ArgoNet (ftp?) site
-but if not, then Support will email you the details
anyway - usually within a minute or so, for this
request!
You may have to email your request, so that they 'know'
to whom they are responding, otherwise anyone could
get at your personal password and access your mail or
anything else you have with ArgoNet - ie. beta tests.
Hope helps. :))
Bill
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William McNee
Rosemary Miskin <mis...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
<WebMail>
> Mre seriously, Son1 will be getting his own argo account shortly, and will
> be able to access his email - time permitting - wherever in the world he is.
> - Hungary today!
> Rosemary
And will he be joining the hallowed halls of zfc, I wonder, if he gets
some free time? ;-)
William
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Rosemary Miskin
<w-m...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
>And will he be joining the hallowed halls of zfc, I wonder,
I'm not sure whether to encourage him to do so or not - might cramp my
style!
> if he gets some free time? ;-)
What's that?
He did get a few dsys off this month, when there were three weeks between
races, but paid for it earlier with a 19 day stretch with no days off at the
end of June!
Rosemary
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Tennant Stuart
wrote:
> In article <na.c67c954aab...@argonet.co.uk>,
> Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
>> In article <4aaad68...@billsimpson.com>, <ad...@billsimpson.com>
>> wrote:
>>> If you have forgotten the password, then either
>>> !VoyDetails will extract it for you - or else
>>> request it from Support, who will advise you by
>>> email.
>> What's !VoyDetails?
> A proggy for ArgoNet subscribers using the !Voyager
> Suite that extracts various details about their own
> account.. such as User name and their encrypted
> password.. needed for accessing things like ArgoNet's
> Webmail.
> the proggy was somewhere on the ArgoNet (ftp?) site
> -but if not, then Support will email you the details
> anyway - usually within a minute or so, for this
> request!
> You may have to email your request, so that they 'know'
> to whom they are responding, otherwise anyone could
> get at your personal password and access your mail or
> anything else you have with ArgoNet - ie. beta tests.
> Hope helps. :))
Thanks
Tennant
Paul Moynagh
> User Account - let's say ukarg/xa99 - although
> you only need use the xa99 bit.
Sorry to come in late on this. I found your post most helpful - thanks.
I cannot find my 'User Account'. Is it the same as
'Dialup logon name (dialup user name)'?
These are the exact words used in my 'Argonet Internet Account Details'
sheet sent when I 1st joined Argonet. Mine has no 'uk' and no forward slash
(/) and goes (last 4 letter/numbers munged): argxa99
and my 'POP3 logon name (email user name)' is just 'xa99' - ie similar to
the 'you only need use bit' you suggest.
What is the significance of 'uk'? For use if abroad? And of the '/'?
If they are all the same, why do Argo (Freedom2 ?) need to have so many
different and confusing (to simple non-geeky folk like me) definitions?
Furthermore, my password is impossibly unmemorable. It would be nice to be
able to chose one's own.
And finally, I presume one can use ArgoNet's Webmail on, say, a PC laptop
with whatever net software / ISP that has? I am thinking of getting one,
and it would be great for getting my email when away from home. Finally, and
forgive my ignorance and naivety, would this, or similar, be a way to access
newsgroups (such as this one) not all of which I gather are accessible via
some other ISPs?
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Paul Moynagh <pmoy...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <4aaad68...@billsimpson.com>, <ad...@billsimpson.com>
> wrote:
> > This will open a window which asks you for your
> > User Account - let's say ukarg/xa99 - although
> > you only need use the xa99 bit.
> Sorry to come in late on this. I found your post most helpful - thanks.
> I cannot find my 'User Account'. Is it the same as
> 'Dialup logon name (dialup user name)'?
> These are the exact words used in my 'Argonet Internet Account Details'
> sheet sent when I 1st joined Argonet. Mine has no 'uk' and no forward slash
> (/) and goes (last 4 letter/numbers munged): argxa99
> and my 'POP3 logon name (email user name)' is just 'xa99' - ie similar to
> the 'you only need use bit' you suggest.
Yup.. that's the one, Paul. The xa99 bit is all you
need to enter the first part in accessing your email
account. The second part is your password - which is
an eight letter alphanumeric to be entered, with any
upper and lower case(s), exactly as presented.
If you don't have, or have lost this detail - email
(or call, I suppose), sup...@argonet.co.uk and the
details will be emailed back to you asap.
> What is the significance of 'uk'? For use if abroad? And of the '/'?
You may need the full identifier, including the 'uk',
if accessing something from elsewhere on the planet
- however, you do not need to enter that for your
Argonet webmail account once you have reached it -
at least, not at the moment.
Your webmail account is already set up - and in
accessing you are identified as an Argonet subscriber.
UUNET - the backbone for ArgoNet - has a global presence.
The UK identifies the 'code' as UK - the ARG as ArgoNet,
the rest of the identifier being your User ID - Pop3
number - whatever... basically, the machine 'name' by
which you are identified. The forward slash, "/", is
a seperator which comes between your 'name' and the
prequel identifier that your account is with ArgoNet
in the UK. Argo have always had a presence in other
parts of the world, including the Americas and the
Pacific Rim - oh! and for good measure, Russia as well!
This 'presence' washes over our Freedom2-ArgoNet.
This 'name' isn't a 'secret' - and used to appear on all
the headers. UUNET appear to have stopped relaying this
info for some reason, about a couple of months ago
according to Vince - who notices these things. May be a
security measure - or UUNET may have managed to mislay
another file - or server!
This is not to be confused with your deliberately confusing
eight character 'password' - which /must not/ be given to
anyone else. Your 'net security - worldwide - might well
depend on this.
> If they are all the same, why do Argo (Freedom2 ?) need to have so many
> different and confusing (to simple non-geeky folk like me) definitions?
> Furthermore, my password is impossibly unmemorable. It would be nice to be
> able to chose one's own.
Yes.. it could be easier - and if Paul's listening
then he'll recognise the need for choice - if that's
possible in the present security climate.
However and interestingly Barclays Bank - who have
one of the best presences on the Web, (even to using
Fresco and ArgoNet for parts of their beta testing),
have a ten digit account number, followed by an eight
digit password, then followed by your own choice of
an eight letter alphanumeric, which is presented as a
random choice of two characters of which you are asked
to enter them, each individually, by their precedence
in the 'word'.
Your entry must be correct, even virtually down to the
key presses while entering, or you are immediately
denied access.
It does take a few accesses to remember which goes where
and with what! Unlike the simple 4 digit number used
to access the hole-in-the-wall plastic, these account
numbers are issued - not chosen by the customer. The
Bank has apparently recognised some security problem
here.
Sometimes, the easiest way is to ring the access number -
plead either old age or extreme youth and ask the nice
'voice' to script the entries on your behalf. Bit like
using ArgoNet Support.. O:))
> And finally, I presume one can use ArgoNet's Webmail on, say, a PC laptop
> with whatever net software / ISP that has? I am thinking of getting one,
..some bits about accessing email..
Yes.. you will be able to access your email, worldwide,
using whatever combination you decide or are able to
logon to the 'net with.
This, for instance, can be the machine in that local
taxi office in Saigon, one of the terminals in the
Presidential Suite waiting room annexe in the White House,
or your PC laptop while buzzing our Penguins' Holiday Home
in Antarctica.
> and it would be great for getting my email when away from home. Finally, and
> forgive my ignorance and naivety, would this, or similar, be a way to access
> newsgroups (such as this one) not all of which I gather are accessible via
> some other ISPs?
..some bits about the software..
If you subscribe to ArgoNet, then you should be able
to get software - sup...@argonet.co.uk or the office
will send it - for any of the machines you use -
providing they are RISC OS, PCs including laptops,
or Apples. (Most of it's freely available to the
private computer user anyway - just don't expect any
firm to relay third party apparent freebies - there's
a copyright minefield usually planted hereabouts!
Some software support /may/ be available for other
hardware combinations as well - but that, I guess,
on an individual, personal, basis.
With this software you will be able to access our
ArgoNet newsgroups as a matter of course - or 'right'!
You should be able to maintain contact while you
are 'abroad'.. if the server to which you connect has
the UK UUNET newsfeeds carrying the Argonet ngs.
..some bits about accessing newsgroups..
If for some reason the ArgoNet groups are not available
and you are sojourning awhile - then contact the ISP
to which you are attached and ask them to sort it for
you. Most are willing to help.. newsgroups are
generally available worldwide, providing the local
network knows of your needs. One early Argonaut,
Robin Abecassis, persuaded his local Singaporean ISP
to carry a newsfeed accessing ArgoNet - but it only
arrived as he returned - I think.
As to ISPs other than ArgoNet accessing the ArgoNet
newsgroups - some can - some can't - some don't
want to.
The ArgoNet newsgroups are, essentially, the /Private/
newsgroups of our ISP. These argonet.*.* newsgroups
were never really intended for use by 'outsiders' -
who have either their own newsgroups (rarely) - or have
access, as we all do, to the tens and tens and tens of
thousands of newsgroups circulating the 'net.
A matter being considered at the moment.
However.. hope this, essentially an overview,
helps a little more.. :))
Bill
..and, of course, e&oe!
That's "errors and ommissions excepted", or is that "expected"!
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Fri,24 Aug 2001.04:31:28
Roger Foden
[snip]
>
> I cannot find my 'User Account'. Is it the same as
> 'Dialup logon name (dialup user name)'?
>
> These are the exact words used in my 'Argonet Internet Account Details'
> sheet sent when I 1st joined Argonet. Mine has no 'uk' and no forward
> slash
> (/) and goes (last 4 letter/numbers munged): argxa99
>
> and my 'POP3 logon name (email user name)' is just 'xa99' - ie similar to
> the 'you only need use bit' you suggest.
Your user name as far as WebMail is concerned is xa99. That is the name you
enter into the first line of the WebMail login box.
> What is the significance of 'uk'? For use if abroad? And of the '/'?
The same name (xa99) is used from wherever in the World you log on to
WebMail.
> Furthermore, my password is impossibly unmemorable. It would be nice to be
> able to chose one's own.
Having used it regularly (on holiday in Internet Cafes) I soon realised I
actually remembered mine, despite its singulary unmemorable sequence.
> And finally, I presume one can use ArgoNet's Webmail on, say, a PC laptop
> with whatever net software / ISP that has? I am thinking of getting one,
> and it would be great for getting my email when away from home.
One can; as I said above, I used WebMail in New Zealand and Malaysia, from
Internet Cafe locations, all of which had PC's running Windows and Internet
Explorer.
The only precaution I took - to prevent any possibility of others gaining
access to my mailbox - was to wipe the Cache and History after using a
machine (via the Tools menu).
If you use your own laptop/palmtop you need an ISP with access in the
country where you are residing; otherwise you need an International phone
call to, say, Argonet in the UK. This rather defeats the object of a cheap
access to your Argonet email. You also need a modem and access to a phone
line. If you are going to be resident that's not really a problem, but for a
holiday trip or tour an Internet Cafe could be more convenient.
> forgive my ignorance and naivety, would this, or similar, be a way to
> access
> newsgroups (such as this one) not all of which I gather are accessible via
> some other ISPs?
Sorry, can't give an answer on that one. 8-(
Regards
Roger
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Paul Moynagh
<roger...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <na.4b8df94aae....@argonet.co.uk>, Paul Moynagh
> <pmoy...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> >
> > I cannot find my 'User Account'. Is it the same as
> > 'Dialup logon name (dialup user name)'?
> >
>
> Your user name as far as WebMail is concerned is xa99. . . . . etc
Thank you, Roger for your very clear explanntions.