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Que Mariah Carey's All I want for Christmas holiday anthem, it's the holiday season and we are celebrating the most wonderful time of the year at Broadway at the Beach! Even after we've lit our tree and decked our halls (or actually, the bridges over Lake Broadway), there's more holiday themed events to enjoy at our favorite Grand Strand destination.

Whether it's a Breakfast with Santa and Mrs. Claus at Hard Rock Caf, or Lunch with the Grinch at Dave & Buster's or early morning dining with the mermaids of Ripley's Aquarium, you and your family can dine with the friends and foes of the North Pole on different December dates. For families, you can always sit down to a hearty holiday feast at Paula Deen's Family Kitchen with a selection of southern favorites and don't forget that seasonal favorite, pumpkin ooey gooey pumpkin cake! For the couple out on the town for a romantic holiday date, a candlelit dinner of Cajun coastal cuisine can be found at Landry's Seafood, pair that with a glass of wine with dessert or stop by one of our wineries and pick up a bottle for when you're cuddled up with Netflix and chill on those chilly evenings!

Going on now through December 30th, Legends in Concert is featuring their Ultimate Christmas Spectacular with live music tributes Elvis (Travis Powell), Blues Brothers (Kenny Barett & Dan Meisner), Karen Carpenter (Sally Olson), Alan Jackson (Larry Turner) and Martina McBride (Stacey Whitton Summers). It's a show that's a little bit country and whole lot of holiday Rock n' Roll!

At Ripley's Aquarium, you will feel like you are walking into an indoor and under the sea Christmas village with their Festival of Trees! With 50 trees uniquely decorated with one for each state in the U.S., the aquarium glistens and glows this time of year!

Next to Ripley's Aquarium in Heroes Harbor, you can stop by for a photo op at our new Santa's House. Take a selfie or snap a shot with friends and family and make a memory to post on your favorite social media account! Be sure to use #AVeryBroadwayChristmas when posting and you may see your pictures shared on our Facebook and Instagram!

There's plenty of ways to enjoy the countdown to Christmas and the holiday season at Broadway and we haven't even talked about our favorite holiday pastime yet, shopping! Help Santa fill up the area under the tree this year and shop Broadway for this season's latest trends and unique gifts that will please the grinchiest of your guests!

So whether it's with your favorite holiday characters or a cozy evening with family and loved ones or a hot holiday date with your significant other, you can eat, drink and be merrily entertained all December long with us at Broadway!

When it comes to anniversary gifts, there's the custom that each year has it's own theme when it comes to gift giving. For example, the 1st anniversary is paper, the 5th anniversary is wood, the 10th is tin or aluminum and so on. So there's a silver lining to this year's annual tree lighting celebration at Broadway at the Beach as this is our 25th Annual event! Hence, it's our silver anniversary!

So join us as we light up Broadway in more ways than one for this year's 25th Annual Tree Lighting Celebration! And PS, no need to worry about any 25th anniversary gifts for us under the tree, instead you can make a donation all season long through our Toys for Tots partnership with the Marine Corps Reserve and bring a new unwrapped toy and drop in the boxes located at Guest Services! The season shines brighter at Broadway at the Beach!

TERRY GROSS, host: This is FRESH AIR. I'm Terry Gross. My guest, Loretta Lynn, recorded her first single 50 years ago. It was a song she wrote, called "I'm a Honky Tonk Girl." This year, she was honored with a Grammy Lifetime Achievement Award. Lynn is famous for her singing and songwriting. She's had 16 number one country hits, and she's also famous for her life story, which was told in the 1980 film "Coal Miner's Daughter," starring Sissy Spacek as Loretta Lynn. The film was adapted from Lynn's 1976 memoir, "Coal Miner's Daughter," which described how she grew up in poverty in eastern Kentucky, became a wife at age 13, and after having four children, started writing songs and performing. A new edition of that memoir was published in September, with a new preface by Lynn. And there's a new tribute CD that features her songs recorded by the White Stripes, Steve Earle, Allison Moorer, Carrie Underwood, Martina McBride, Alan Jackson and others. Lynn joined Sheryl Crow and Miranda Lambert in a version of Lynn's song "Coal Miner's Daughter." Let's start with Loretta Lynn's first recording, "Honky Tonk Girl," and then we'll hear the version on the tribute album, performed by Lee Ann Womack. (Soundbite of song, "Honky Tonk Girl") Ms. LORETTA LYNN (Musician): (Singing) Ever since you left me, I've done nothing but wrong. Many nights I've laid awake and cried. We once were happy, my heart was in a whirl, but now I'm a honky tonk girl. Ms. LEE ANN WOMACK (Musician): (Singing) So turn that Jukebox way up high, and fill my glass up while I cry. I've lost everything in this world, and now I'm a honky tonk girl. GROSS: So we heard Loretta Lynn singing her song "I'm a Honky Tonk Girl," and then Lee Ann Womack from the new Loretta Lynn tribute, "Coal Miner's Daughter." Loretta Lynn, what a great pleasure to have you on the show. Thank you so much for coming. Ms. LYNN: Thank you, Terry. It's really nice to be on your show. GROSS: Now, did you pick the performers on the new tribute CD, and did you talk with them at all about the songs? Ms. LYNN: No, I didn't talk to them. I just told them - my manager who I would like to have on the - you know, the record. And the next thing I knew, they were here, and we did the album. We had a good time. Me and Sheryl Crow and Miranda Lambert did the video down at my house, and we worked there all day long. So we had a good time. GROSS: Now, the song we just heard, that's the first song you wrote. It was your first record, released in 1960. Ms. LYNN: Right. GROSS: You say you wrote it in 20 minutes on a $17 guitar that your husband bought for you. Ms. LYNN: That's true. GROSS: Because he thought you sang well. And you wrote a song because he told you to. Do you think you ever would have written or performed if your husband didn't say that's what you should do? Ms. LYNN: No, I wouldn't have because I was too bashful. I wouldn't get out in front of people. I wouldn't you know, I was really bashful, and I would've never sang in front of anybody. GROSS: So when you wrote "Honky Tonk Girl" with absolutely no songwriting experience, how did you approach writing a song? Ms. LYNN: You know, I just sat down with my guitar. It was outside. In fact, I was leaning up against the old toilet out there on the West Coast, in Washington state. And... GROSS: Did you say the toilet? Ms. LYNN: The old toilet, yeah. GROSS: Okay. Ms. LYNN: And I sat there and wrote "Honky Tonk Girl" and "Whispering Sea." GROSS: So what made you think of the story that you tell in "Honky Tonk Girl"? Ms. LYNN: Well, I think I probably listened to a bunch of people - you know, their songs and stuff. And I figured, well, I can if they can write, I can, too. So just said, hey, I'm going to tell a story. And that's what I did. GROSS: And had you hung out at honky tonks, or did you know them from songs? Ms. LYNN: No, when I first started writing, my husband got me a job at this little bar. And me and a steel player and my brother, he played the fiddle and sang. So we sang together. And so we really had a good time, you know, and I wrote "Honky Tonk Girl" and "Whispering Sea" during that time. GROSS: So you were doing some performing? Ms. LYNN: Yeah, I just had started. In fact, I had never sang in front of anybody until my husband pushed me out there, you know. I'd never been out and sang for anybody. GROSS: But at home, you sang. Ms. LYNN: I rocked the babies to sleep. And in Kentucky, when I was growing up with my sisters and brothers, we all sang and rocked the babies to sleep, you know. But that was about as far as we ever did, you know. GROSS: So when you recorded your first single, "Honky Tonk Girl," you were 24. You'd already been married for 11 years because you got married when you were 13. And you already had four children. Do I have that right? Ms. LYNN: I had four kids, uh-huh. GROSS: And the twins came a little bit later. Ms. LYNN: Yeah, the twins come later. GROSS: What was your life like, as a wife and mother, before you started recording? Ms. LYNN: It wasn't easy. Me and my husband both worked. I took care of the farmhouse. I cleaned and cooked for 36 ranch hands and... GROSS: Wow. Ms. LYNN: Yeah, before I started singing. And so singing was easy. I thought: Gee whiz, this is an easy job. GROSS: Wait, so you cooked and cleaned for 36 ranch hands, and had four children? Ms. LYNN: Uh-huh, sure did. Paid the rent on the old house that we lived in, and that's what I did to make the rent, yeah. GROSS: Wow. Ms. LYNN: It wasn't easy, let me tell you. Life was hard. (Soundbite of laughter) GROSS: So when you made your first appearance on the Opry, which was the same year that you recorded "Honky Tonk Girl," you weren't used to performing on such a prestigious stage in front of an audience like that. Ms. LYNN: Oh, no. GROSS: Did you know how to perform onstage in a place like the Opry? Ms. LYNN: Not really. I just got out there with my guitar, and I sang. I mean, I just did it just like I was doing it at home, you know. I never thought about it being the Grand Ole Opry because if I had, I wouldn't have been able to have done it. You just pretty well got to figure, well, you know, this is something I could do every day. GROSS: Right. (Soundbite of laughter) GROSS: It's so much like what you do every day. (Soundbite of laughter) Ms. LYNN: Yeah. GROSS: My guest is Loretta Lynn, and there's a new Loretta Lynn tribute CD, called "Coal Miner's Daughter: A Tribute to Loretta Lynn." And it features, among others, the White Stripes, Carrie Underwood, Lucinda Williams, Steve Earle and Allison Moorer. So the next song we're going to hear is a song that you first recorded in 1966, "Don't Come Home A-Drinking (With Lovin' On Your Mind)." And this is a great song. Gretchen Wilson sings it on the tribute CD. We're going to hear your version. But first, I want to hear the story of how you wrote it. You'd already had about six years of songwriting experience behind you. You probably were no longer leaning against the toilet when you wrote this. Ms. LYNN: I was probably Doo had fixed me a little writing room at this time, out in Goodliesfield(ph). GROSS: Doo is your husband - was your late husband, yes. Ms. LYNN: Doo was my husband, yes. And he's the only one I've ever had. And so he fixed me this little writing room. And I'd go out there, and I'd write. And this was one of the songs that I wrote - was "Don't Come Home A'Drinking (With Lovin' On Your Mind)." GROSS: And at this point, did you feel like, I know how to write a song? Ms. LYNN: Oh, yeah. When I wrote "Don't Come Home A-Drinking," I knew I could write because I'd had quite a few on the charts by that time. GROSS: Now, you've said that your husband is in every song that you've written, in a large way or in a small way. Ms. LYNN: Still is. I mean, if I write a song, he's in there somewhere. GROSS: Were you thinking of him when you wrote this song? Ms. LYNN: Oh, yeah. GROSS: Would he come home after drinking like that? Ms. LYNN: Why, sure. If a man drinks, he's going to come home drinking. He liked to drink. GROSS: Was this song intended to send him a message at all? Ms. LYNN: Not really. I probably told him many times. I didn't have to sing about it. (Soundbite of laughter) GROSS: Okay. Well, let's hear the song. Ms. LYNN: All right. GROSS: This is "Don't Come Home A-Drinking," recorded in 1966 by Loretta Lynn, and it was a number one country music chart hit. (Soundbite of song, "Don't Come Home A-Drinking (With Loving On Your Mind)") Ms. LYNN: (Singing) Well, you thought I'd be waiting up when you came home last night. You'd been out with all the boys, and you ended up half-tied. But liquor and love, they just don't mix; leave the bottle or me behind, and don't come home a-drinking with loving on your mind. No, don't come home a-drinking with loving on your mind. Just stay out there on the town and see what you can find 'cause if you want that kind of love, well you don't need none of mine. So don't come home a-drinking with loving on your mind. GROSS: That was Loretta Lynn, recorded in 1966, and there's a new Loretta Lynn tribute CD. And on that CD, that song is performed by Gretchen Wilson. And there's also a new edition of Loretta Lynn's famous memoir, which is called "Coal Miner's Daughter." And the new CD is called "Coal Miner's Daughter: A Tribute to Loretta Lynn." Now, when you started performing, Patsy Cline was your mentor until she died. Ms. LYNN: But, you know, she hadn't been in the business that long when I come to Nashville. She'd only been singing two or three years. And yeah... GROSS: So she must have really related to what you were going through. Ms. LYNN: Oh, yeah. We talked a lot. (Soundbite of laughter) GROSS: What were some of the things that she taught you, that really helped you a lot - things relating to, you know, from clothing to performing style to dealing with the music industry - yeah, go ahead. Ms. LYNN: Well, she kind of helped me, you know, with the style and everything that I was you know, I was in blue jeans and a T-shirt, or blue jeans and just a Western shirt. And she taught me a lot, how to dress and... GROSS: What did she tell you about how to dress? Ms. LYNN: Well, she told me to get out of the jeans, you know. Of course, I would wear them until we'd get to the radio station, and then I'd get in the backseat and put on my dress. And I'd take the dress off and go back into my jeans and wait until the next radio station. (Soundbite of laughter) Ms. LYNN: And then I'd go back into my dress again. GROSS: And did she give you any advice about performing? Ms. LYNN: Not really. I think she wanted me to learn that on my own, and I think it's best for every artist to learn on their own what they're going to do on stage, and how they act. And I don't think anybody else can teach you that. GROSS: My guest is Loretta Lynn. This week, a new tribute album was released, called "Coal Miner's Daughter." We'll talk more after a break. This is FRESH AIR. (Soundbite of music) GROSS: My guest is country music star Loretta Lynn. Her memoir, "Coal Miner's Daughter," was published in a new edition in September. This week, a new tribute album was released, also called "Coal Miner's Daughter." I want to play another song that you wrote, and this was a song that was, actually, pretty controversial at the time it came out. And it's called "Rated X." Ms. LYNN: Yeah. GROSS: And I'm going to let you describe what the song's about. Ms. LYNN: Well, it's about a woman that's been married and divorced, and I'll just let you listen to it. GROSS: Okay, and what I want to do, I want to go to the tribute CD. The White Stripes have a really good reworked - like, reinterpreted version of this. Ms. LYNN: Yeah. GROSS: And I know you've worked with Jack White before. He produced a terrific album of yours in 2004, called "Van Lear Rose." Ms. LYNN: Right. GROSS: So do you want to say anything about the White Stripes' version of your song? Ms. LYNN: Well, I think whatever Jack does is good. I mean, you can't I mean, he's good. You have to love him. So this is good. GROSS: Okay, so this is the song Loretta Lynn wrote. She recorded it in 1971. It's called "Rated X," and here's the White Stripes from the Loretta Lynn tribute album "Coal Miner's Daughter." (Soundbite of song, "Rated X") The WHITE STRIPES (Music Group): (Singing) Well, if you've been a married woman, and things didn't seem to work out, divorce is the key to being loose and free, but you're gonna be talked about. Everybody knows that you've loved once; they think you'll love again. You can't have a male friend when you're a has-been, on a woman you're rated X. And if you're rated X, you're some kind of gold that even men turned to silver try to make. But I think it's wrong to judge every picture if a cheap camera makes a mistake. So if your best friend's husband says to you that you've started lookin' good, you should've known he would, and he would if he could, and he will if you're rated X. GROSS: That's the White Stripes from the new Loretta Lynn tribute album, "Coal Miner's Daughter," and also Loretta Lynn's famous memoir, "Coal Miner's Daughter," has been published in a new edition. GROSS: Now, we were talking before about writing from a woman's point of view, which "Rated X" most certainly is - you know, about what it's like to be a divorced woman, when men think that you're available and try to take advantage of you, and you have a reputation. So why was the song controversial? Ms. LYNN: I think it was because, you know, you've been a married woman. I think when you write about it, they take it to heart, too, you know, they people do. So I think that was it. It just starts out: If you've been a married woman, things didn't seem to work out, divorce is the key to being loose and free. So you're going to be talked about. So that's exactly how it is, you know. GROSS: When you called it "Rated X" - I mean, do you think some people thought, oh, this is going to be a very provocative, sexy song because it's called "Rated X"? Ms. LYNN: Oh, yeah. You know, a lot of the disc jockeys, you know, banned it before they even listened to it. And, you know, after it got way up in the charts and - they all flipped the record, started listening to it and playing it. But, you know - another old, dirty record from Loretta Lynn. (Soundbite of laughter) GROSS: Now, something that was even more controversial than "Rated X" was your song "The Pill," which is about... Ms. LYNN: That's right. The pill was on the way and, you know, we have a lot of them that says it like it is. So that's really, I guess we're not to talk about the way it is. (Soundbite of laughter) GROSS: This has some lyrics that I think, you know, really were controversial in some country music circles at the time. And the lyrics include: This old maternity dress I've got is going in the garbage, and you've set this chicken your last time because now I've got the pill. I'm tearing down this brooder house 'cause now I've got the pill. Ms. LYNN: Yeah. GROSS: So the song sounds autobiographical in some ways. I'm not saying that you are necessarily angry in the way that the character in the song is angry, but you had six children. Ms. LYNN: I had six kids. I lost three. GROSS: You lost three? Ms. LYNN: I lost three. GROSS: Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize that. Ms. LYNN: I was about five and six well, it wasn't, you know, I lost them before they were born. GROSS: Oh, so you had six and lost three others? Wow. Ms. LYNN: Yeah. GROSS: That's a lot of pregnancies. Ms. LYNN: Yeah. (Soundbite of laughter) GROSS: Right, okay, stating the obvious. Did you share the song's anger? Ms. LYNN: Well, I sure didn't like it when I got pregnant a few times. You know, it's hard for a woman to have so many kids. And, well, at the time, I guess I had four. And then I got pregnant and had, you know, with the twins. But yeah, I was a little angry. GROSS: Let's hear it, and this was released in 1975, recorded in 1972. This is Loretta Lynn, "The Pill." (Soundbite of song, "The Pill") Ms. LYNN: You wined me and dined me when I was your girl, promised if I'd be your wife, you'd show me the world. But all I've seen of this old world is a bed and a doctor bill. I'm tearin' down your brooder house 'cause now I've got the pill. All these years I've stayed at home while you had all your fun, and every year that's gone by, another baby's come. There's gonna be some changes made right here on nursery hill. You've set this chicken your last time 'cause now I've got the pill. This old maternity dress I've got is goin' in the garbage. The clothes I'm wearin' from now on won't take up so much yardage. Miniskirts, hot pants and a few little fancy frills. Yeah, I'm makin' up for all those years since I've got the pill. GROSS: That's Loretta Lynn, recorded in 1972. It was released in '75. The song is called "The Pill." Now, you've said that you never even used the pill as birth control. (Soundbite of laughter) Ms. LYNN: Well, if I'd had it, I'd have used it. At the time that... GROSS: I see. Ms. LYNN: Yeah because, see, back when I was having all the kids, we didn't have birth control pills. Or if they did, I didn't know anything about them. GROSS: Well, you write that there's a lot you didn't know about, that -you were 13 when you got married in 1947, and you say you didn't... Ms. LYNN: Didn't know anything about sex, either, did I? GROSS: No, you say you didn't know anything about sex or even pregnancy. You say when you got pregnant, you didn't even know the word. Is that right? Ms. LYNN: Well, I don't know. I guess we just called it having a baby. We didn't call it pregnant. Back in Butcher Holler, there was a lot of things we didn't know - a lot of things, they still don't know back there. GROSS: When I think of you getting married at 13, it just seems so young. Ms. LYNN: Well, it is. It is way too young, you know. GROSS: What made you think that you were ready? Ms. LYNN: Don't ask me. I was 13. (Soundbite of laughter) GROSS: So when you got married, about a year afterwards, you moved to the state of Washington. Ms. LYNN: Washington state. GROSS: Far away. Did you feel lost for a while, when you moved away from your family and everything you knew? Ms. LYNN: Oh yeah. Yeah, Daddy said: He told me he wouldn't take you away where I couldn't see you. And here I was, 3,000 miles away - two months after he married me. GROSS: Wow, I was thinking what it must have been like for you to be, you know, so far away from home at the age of like, 13, 14, 15, having children already. You probably had no idea you were ever going to become famous. Ms. LYNN: No, never. And I still don't. I'm not famous. (Soundbite of laughter) Ms. LYNN: I'm just me. GROSS: Loretta Lynn will be back in the second half of the show. The new Loretta Lynn tribute CD is called "Coal Miner's Daughter," which is also the title of her 1976 memoir, and it was recently published in a new edition. I'm Terry Gross, and this is FRESH AIR. (Soundbite of music) GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. I'm Terry Gross, back with country music star Loretta Lynn. Her life story was made famous in the 1980 film "Coal Miner's Daughter," starring Sissy Spacek as Lynn. The memoir it was based on has been published in a new edition. And this week, a new tribute album was released, also called "Coal Miner's Daughter," which includes performances by the White Stripes, Steve Earle, Allison Moore, Carrie Underwood and Lee Ann Womack. Well, I want to play another song. Ms. LYNN: Okay. GROSS: And this is a song that's covered on the new tribute album, but we'll hear your version. And this is "After the Fire Has Gone." And it's one of the hit duets that you recorded with Conway Twitty. So this song is attributed to L.E. White, a songwriter I'm not familiar with. Ms. LYNN: Yeah. L.E. White wrote this song. It was one of Conway's writers. GROSS: Oh I see. Ms. LYNN: Mm-hmm. GROSS: And so they brought the song to you. Ms. LYNN: Yeah. GROSS: How did you start recording with Conway Twitty? These duets are so good. Ms. LYNN: Me and Conway went overseas. There was a whole crew of people went overseas to, you know, perform. And me and Conway started singing in the dressing rooms. So we thought, well, when we get home, we'll sing to Owen Bradley and see what he thinks. So we went home... GROSS: Owen Bradley was your producer. Ms. LYNN: Our producer, yeah. GROSS: And obviously, he liked it. Ms. LYNN: He loved it. He says, ya'll get in the studio and let's record, so that's what we did. GROSS: Some of the songs are like, oh, we're so attracted to each other but it's wrong so we really shouldn't, and then... Ms. LYNN: Yeah. (Soundbite of laughter) GROSS: And this one is "After the Fire Has Gone." Ms. LYNN: "After the Fire Has Gone." GROSS: So this was recorded in 1970. It went to number one on the country charts. And.. Ms. LYNN: Yeah, everybody thought me and Conway had a thing going, you know. GROSS: Oh, oh, but you didn't? Ms. LYNN: Because of the songs we recorded. But me and Conway were friends. We wasn't lovers. GROSS: Right. So on the tribute album, on the Loretta Lynn tribute album "Coal Miner's Daughter," this duet is covered by Steve Earle and Allison Moorer - who are, in fact, married. But we're going hear your version with Conway Twitty. So here it is. Ms. LYNN: Okay. GROSS: This is Loretta Lynn and Conway Twitty. (Soundbite of song, "After the Fire Has Gone") Ms. LYNN and Mr. CONWAY TWITTY: (Singing) Love is where you find it. Ms. LYNN: (Singing) When you find no love at home. Ms. LYNN and Mr. TWITTY: (Singing) And there's nothing cold as ashes after the fire is gone. Mr. TWITTY: (Singing) The bottle is almost empty, the clock just now struck 10. Darling, I had to call you to our favorite place again. Ms. LYNN: (Singing) We know it's wrong for us to meet but the fire's gone out at home. Ms. LYNN and Mr. TWITTY: (Singing) And there's nothing cold as ashes after the fire is gone. Love is where you find it... Ms. LYNN: (Singing) ...when you find no love at home. Ms. LYNN and Mr. TWITTY: (Singing) And there's nothing cold as ashes after the fire is gone. GROSS: That's Loretta Lynn and Conway Twitty, recorded in 1970, a song that went to number one on the country charts. And that song is covered by Steve Earle and Allison Moorer on the new Loretta Lynn tribute CD, "Coal Miner's Daughter: A Tribute to Loretta Lynn." Now, there's one kind of song you've written that I haven't asked you about, and that is the I-am-so-angry-you-better-be-careful-'cause-if-you-take-my-man-I-will-actually-hit-you kind of song. (Soundbite of laughter) Ms. LYNN: Is that "Fist City"? GROSS: I'm thinking of "Fist City," yeah. (Soundbite of laughter) Ms. LYNN: Oh. GROSS: And it's not exactly a sisterhood-is-powerful kind of song. The lyric is: If you don't want to go to Fist City, you'd better detour around my town... Ms. LYNN: Mm-hmm. GROSS: ...or else I'll grab you by the hair of your head, and lift you off the ground. (Soundbite of laughter) Ms. LYNN: Yeah. GROSS: So tell me about writing a lyric like this where, I mean, it's like real physical anger. Ms. LYNN: Well, there was an ol' gal that tried to take Doolittle away from me and... GROSS: There was somebody who tried that? Ms. LYNN: Yeah, there was somebody and - but she didn't make it. GROSS: Did you threaten her? Ms. LYNN: Yes, I did. (Soundbite of laughter) Ms. LYNN: With more than a song. (Soundbite of laughter) GROSS: And not in rhyme. Ms. LYNN: That's right. It didn't rhyme at all. (Soundbite of laughter) GROSS: What did you tell her? Ms. LYNN: I just told her: Back off; she's playing with the wrong Bill. GROSS: You know, what's amazing to me - like, why would somebody think that they could compete with you? And also, maybe I'm speaking out of turn here, but like, why would your husband... Ms. LYNN: Well, that's how - women take your husband away from you all the time, so they all think that, you know? GROSS: Yeah. Right. Ms. LYNN: Are you married? GROSS: Uh-huh. Ms. LYNN: Oh, Lord... (Soundbite of laughter) Ms. LYNN: He'll kill us. He'll kill us. (Soundbite of laughter) Ms. LYNN: Don't let him hear this. (Soundbite of laughter) GROSS: We're okay. Ms. LYNN: Okay. (Soundbite of laughter) GROSS: So was it right after this incident that you sat down and wrote the song? Ms. LYNN: You know, I don't know exactly when I wrote the song, but I'm pretty sure that I had some things in mind when I wrote it. I won't talk about it. GROSS: That's fine. But do you think she knew that it was about her? Ms. LYNN: I just imagine. GROSS: You imagine that she did? Ms. LYNN: I imagine she did. GROSS: Okay. Ms. LYNN: I probably told her. GROSS: Oh, nice. (Soundbite of laughter) Ms. LYNN: Yeah. GROSS: Okay. So this is "Fist City." This is Loretta Lynn, one of her many hits. (Soundbite of song, "Fist City") Ms. LYNN: (Singing) You've been making your brags around town that you've been a loving my man. But the man I love, when he picks up trash he puts it in a garbage can. And that's what you look like to me, and what I see is a pity. You'd better close your face and stay out of my way if you don't want to go to Fist City. If you don't want to go to Fist City, you'd better detour around my town 'cause I'll grab you by the hair of the head and I'll lift you off of the ground. I'm not a saying my baby is a saint cause he ain't and that he won't cat around with a kitty. I'm here to tell you, gal, to lay off of my man if you don't want to go to Fist City. Come on and tell me what you told my friends if you think you're brave enough. And I'll show you what a real woman is since you think you're hot stuff. You'll bite off more than you can chew if you get too cute or witty. You better move your feet if you don't want to eat a meal that's called Fist City. If you don't want to go to Fist City... GROSS: So that was "Fist City" featuring Loretta Lynn. And I should mention, too, that Loretta Lynn's famous memoir, "Coal Miner's Daughter," has been published in a new edition. I want to play another song, and this is something more recent than what we've been hearing. This is your collaboration with Jack White. He produced an album of yours in 2004, "Van Lear Rose." How did you meet? Ms. LYNN: I went to Detroit to work, and Jack White come to see me and, of course, he told me about

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