EL8 and EL9 packages

[David Schadlich]

I am currently working on updating the packaging to support EL8/EL9 and would like some input before I make a PR. 

1. It appears that the current EL7 version in not being built with SCTP support. My guess is that this is an oversight. This makes me wonder, how important is SCTP support, and how often is it used ? I am looking to have the EL9 build support SCTP, but on EL8/9 SCTP support requires loading an additional kernel module. If SCTP is a important feature, I can include the dependencies and configs to load this module, but if it is not, I am thinking maybe provide some documentation. Either way, the SCTP support for the build will be present in the EL8/9 packages, something that is missing in the current EL7 package. 

2. What are the thoughts on dropping support munin ? In a previous email it sounded like is no longer being used.

3. Along the same kind of lines, dropping support for the init scripts and moving towards a 100% systemd based distribution. I'm aware this one is going to take some work, as it will impact things like the chroot creation and liveupgrade, but those two things could likely spawn off their own discussion. 

4. How large is the audience for EL8/9 ? How many nodes are running EL vs a debian variant ?

Thanks for the feedback

[Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)]

On 11/11/2023 10:48 PM, David Schadlich wrote:
> 2. What are the thoughts on dropping support munin ? In a previous
> email it sounded like is no longer being used.

I may be alone in this, but I use munin to monitor my aprsc installation.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

[Heikki Hannikainen]

On Sat, 11 Nov 2023, David Schadlich wrote:

> 1. It appears that the current EL7 version in not being built with SCTP support. My guess is that this is an oversight.

I have not been building for RHEL at any point.

Yes, migh have been an oversight, but it might also be due to some limits
in the older CentOS distributions. Can't really remember.

> This makes me wonder, how important is SCTP support, and how often is it
> used ? I am looking to have the EL9 build support SCTP, but on EL8/9
> SCTP support requires loading an additional kernel module.

I don't think it is being used at all yet, it's not really important at
all at the moment.

> 2. What are the thoughts on dropping support munin ? In a previous email it sounded like is no longer being used.

I don't use it myself any more, but there's likely a few users out there.
I don't have statistics.

> 3. Along the same kind of lines, dropping support for the init scripts
> and moving towards a 100% systemd based distribution. I'm aware this one
> is going to take some work, as it will impact things like the chroot
> creation and liveupgrade, but those two things could likely spawn off
> their own discussion. 

This is probably the right way to go. The debian/ubuntu aprsc builds are
properly systemd, and the systemd bits should likely work on RPM based
systems just as well.

> 4. How large is the audience for EL8/9 ? How many nodes are running EL vs a debian variant ?

No hard metrics on that unfortunately.

To reduce maintenance work it'd be great if most people would run the same
distribution, and I've been asking for that to be Debian or Ubuntu, as
that's my primary environment for hobby things.

- Hessu

[Scott Evans]

Nope you're not alone, I too use munin to monitor things on my aprsc server too!

But if it's too much to maintain then I won't object to it being dropped. But I find it very useful 

Cheers 

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