NY TAC/Flyway (SFRA, Skyline)?

[Bradley Spatz]

How do I load the NY Flyway charts (SFRA and Skyline)?  I'm able to use the NY TAC OK, but can't seem to find the Flyway charts (back of the TAC charts).

See example of NY SFRA/Skyline charts from SkyVector.

Thanks, and Blue Skies!

[Jeffrey Ross]

Technically the chart you are referring to is marked "not for navigation" go figure. Maybe it is a chart we can look to add in the future.  Best you can do for right now is use the helicopter chart.  It contains everything on the NY SFRA but more cluttered.

Personally when I fly the Hudson River I prefer to fly it at 1500 talking to EWR and and LGA,  I dislike "wild West" scenarios.

Jeff

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[Bradley Spatz]

Thanks.  My use of the charts would be for SA only, but georeferenced is nice.  I have the heli chart in Avare*.  I can see the benefits of the Skyline while talking and squawking...lots of stuff below the Bravo along that corridor.

Since you seem experienced, from an IFR flight (plan), do you have recommended fixes to file/use for entry northbound or southbound?  I'm hoping to transit the corridor as part of IFR trips past NYC.  Thanks again.

[Jeffrey Ross]

Never flew the Hudson corridor as part of an IFR flight but I'm guessing if you request it from the controller he (she) will coordinate it for you if possible. Just don't spring it on then at the last minute!

I'm based at MMU which is about 13 NW of EWR.  I typically tell MMU before I depart that I'd like a handoff to EWR for the Hudson before I depart.  Once handed to EWR I'm quickly cleared into the bravo and usually told to fly directly (not 20 ft left or right!!!) over the numbers of the active runways usually at 1500ft and they'll ask my intentions.  I tell them exactly what I'm looking for when heading north along the Hudson... Eg "circle the lady twice then head north to the tappanzee (aka governor Mario Cuomo bridge)" or "... depart the Hudson at the Alpine Tower and go ....."  Or "...and depart or head back south and ..." Plain, clear and concise English works very well here along with using the names of the reporting points.

Keep in mind EWR has a controller position dedicated to the Hudson River corridor, I'm going to guess LGA does too.  The controllers are very good so just communicate as to what you want and follow the instructions/restrictions and you'll be fine.

East River is a little trickier, you have no choice but to talk to ATC (See the Cory Lidle accident) and you can only go so far south, I've only flown the east River once and when asked what my plans were I simply told ATC "... I'd like to go as far south as you'll let me then turn back north and head back to EWR and then to MMU.".  Personally I think the East River is boring :)

[Rich Klarich]

34 minute pilot institute great video.  My NPRM concern is lost of ADSB-Out will become a concern over time. My UAT needs a PAPR or letter from the FAA telling me it is not compliant or functional- unlesz I notice loss of targets not being sent to me that should.

My work jets, 1090ES, tell me if ADSB-Out is failed.

Can Avare get an ownship "monitor" flag coded in?  Tell us UAT bubbas if our Out has not been seen in 20 seconds or so?  It is a 1hz/1 time per second Out heartbeat, normally, correct?

Thanks!

https://youtu.be/_E0I3JFRwLI?si=M092Zltb9yizU_D3