Remove brown line from flight plan.

[Lance Crossfire]

I am with Andrew Sarangan in complaining about this. 

I want to get rid of the brown line from my location (my house) to the airport on my flight plan. I don't need to know I am 5 miles from my plane. I need to know my flight plan so I can actually do calculations like time, distance, speed, and fuel burn for my trip.

How do I get rid of the brown line?

Be specific.

Thank you.

[Apps4av Support]

The plan does not include the time distance from your current location. The brown line is just there to show you where you are going to next, which is correct even when you are planning at your home.  Perhaps a confusion with legacy app where this time was included in the plan.

Regards,

Apps For Aviators Support,

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[Larry Larson]

Count me in aa well. I find it confusing. I prefer to see just my plan. Thx

[McGregor]

Hi, everyone,

I agree with the sentiment here and also understand the reason for the current behavior. However, I think I have a simple solution.

Maybe I'm weird, but I don't usually turn on GPS on my device unless I need it. When doing flight planning, well, I don t need it. Currently, if you kill GPS and open AvareX, you're somewhere near Wichita (geographic center of continental US?). Load a flight plan, and you get the brown line all the way to wherever your first waypoint is. And you have to pan and zoom. 

Ok, what if the no-GPS behavior was to initialize at a particular place? I mean I'd love to initialize at KBJC. This could be a setting somewhere. Or is it the last place your GPS was active while using the app? 

An easier idea to implement is the following: no GPS, open AvareX, you're in Kansas. Now just load a flight plan. Just move the plane to the first waypoint. All of my flight plans start at KBJC. So that makes great sense for me. If I turn on the GPS, it moves to wherever I actually am. Great. 

I hope those proposals were somewhat clear. I think they SHOULD be somewhat straightforward to implement? And I feel like they would address these complaints fairly well. 

Thoughts?

[Apps4av Support]

Hi McGregor

You have good a idea. However your issue is different from some others. Will address.

Thanks

On Tue, Sep 2, 2025 at 5:03 AM McGregor <mcgsj...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, everyone,

I agree with the sentiment here and also understand the reason for the current behavior. However, I think I have a simple solution.

Maybe I'm weird, but I don't usually turn on GPS on my device unless I need it. When doing flight planning, well, I don't need it. Currently, if you kill GPS and open AvareX, you're somewhere near Wichita (geographic center of continental US?). Load a flight plan, and you get the brown line all the way to wherever your first waypoint is. And you have to pan and zoom. 

Ok, what if the no-GPS behavior was to initialize at a particular place? I mean I'd love to initialize at KBJC. This could be a setting somewhere. Or is it the last place your GPS was active while using the app? Reasonable assumption, right?

An easier idea to implement is the following: no GPS, open AvareX, I'm in Kansas. Now, I load a flight plan. Just move the plane to the first waypoint. All of my flight plans start at KBJC. So that makes great sense for me. If I turn on the GPS, it moves to wherever I actually am. Great. 

I hope these proposals are somewhat clear. I think they SHOULD be somewhat straightforward to implement? And I feel like they would address these complaints fairly well. 

Thoughts?

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[Rich Klarich]

Can it be like legacy and plan in a simulation mode, not navigation mode?

On Tue, Sep 2, 2025, 05:03 McGregor <mcgsj...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, everyone,

I agree with the sentiment here and also understand the reason for the current behavior. However, I think I have a simple solution.

Maybe I'm weird, but I don't usually turn on GPS on my device unless I need it. When doing flight planning, well, I don't need it. Currently, if you kill GPS and open AvareX, you're somewhere near Wichita (geographic center of continental US?). Load a flight plan, and you get the brown line all the way to wherever your first waypoint is. And you have to pan and zoom. 

Ok, what if the no-GPS behavior was to initialize at a particular place? I mean I'd love to initialize at KBJC. This could be a setting somewhere. Or is it the last place your GPS was active while using the app? Reasonable assumption, right?

An easier idea to implement is the following: no GPS, open AvareX, I'm in Kansas. Now, I load a flight plan. Just move the plane to the first waypoint. All of my flight plans start at KBJC. So that makes great sense for me. If I turn on the GPS, it moves to wherever I actually am. Great. 

I hope these proposals are somewhat clear. I think they SHOULD be somewhat straightforward to implement? And I feel like they would address these complaints fairly well. 

Thoughts?

On Tuesday, August 12, 2025 at 8:16:56 AM UTC-6 wire...@gmail.com wrote:

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[McGregor]

Woohoo! V0.60.0 initializes to the last recorded screen position. This means I can just "park my plane" at KBJC and reload the app without GPS. FWIW this is the Google Maps behavior, and I find it much more intuitive than starting every time in the middle of the country. 

I know this isn't exactly what the folks on this thread were looking for, but at least it enables that behavior if you turn off location services while planning. No more brown lines from Kansas. Just move your screen to the first location in your flight plan and reload the app. 

Thanks for the fix!
McGregor

[Apps4av Support]

Ok nice. 

Important - If you have a plan created, and the first waypoint is selected, then the plan shows totals as if you are located at that first waypoint (kind of like simulation mode in avare). For subsequent waypoints, the plan totals will reflect total time from your current location to that waypoint then the rest of the plan.

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