Online Help for i-Devices

[jeffrey...@gmail.com]

Jeff here…

 

Season’s Greetings All:

 

It is easy for one to google as well as online assistance for Windows based computers which I, most of the time, don’t have a problem.

 

However, this doesn’t seem to be the case for i-Devices.  Perhaps it is mostly how the current iOS is created and how doing the steps with Braille keys keeps on changing.  One good example is about the Contact APP.  When I am in an email, I would notice that I want to add the sender to the Contact list but this is not working like it used to do.  Also, if I want and need to pick out someone from the Contact APP to add to the TO: or CC:, the name is not there whereas I know it was there in the past plus it seems to jump around.   Or how does one get step by step directions to cut/copy a block to paste into another area, etc.

 

Thanks, and enjoy the rest of the weekend!!

 

Jeff

[Brian Tew]

If you drag a finger around on the screen your contact name probably is there.

But it does not come up as easily as before. sometimes I can use the space-f find command to locate the name I want.

For that you must have focus on the right side of the screen. 

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[Brian Tew]

When googling for ios commands always use the word voiceover.

What we need is to mark the start and end of a block of text and then copy it.

I don't know if this is possible exactly.

I am gonna ask apple accesiibility.

meanwhile I just discovered the reverse pinch gesture; never knew about it.

You can select a character, word or line with space-256 then reverse pinch on the screen to make it select more text.

I don't know if there is a key combo for reverse pinch.

selected text is highlighted in print; in  braille it has dots 7 and 8 under it.

Here is some info, but somewhat outdated I think.

http://seeingdifferentuk.blogspot.com/2015/06/selecting-copying-and-pasting-with.html

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[Barbara Davis]

Hello Jeff,

I am on IOS 15.1 and have no problem with contact app.

If I want to add e mail address to contact app is 2 different ways.

I go to contact app to open and click the word add then type name  and e mail address.

Or I get a new e mail from someone else in the mail app and I open to read. I go to the word ‘from’ and click on that name twice because first will not open so click again will open. Go down to the word create new address. Click that one then check make sure first and last name is correct and check e mail then click done. It works just fine for me.

I mostly used to click from to add it which is easier to avoid typing wrong e mail address by wrong spelling. I avoid that.

If you want to type a perrson to or from.I don’t go to contact app. I go to mail app

Click mail app and go to bottom saying compose click on that then type to who you want to add. ‘To’ I type example Jeff then go down abit look for right name Jeff list and click which list is the right person Jeff because I have more than one name of Jeff

I go to next word CC then click on that then type name pretend Allan then go down look for which Allan is correct then click on it. Then type another person name Peter go down look for which one is correct Peter then click onit

Go to Subject to type then e maol body message that is all.

That is the most easy way i do that better than contact app is more work

I hope that helps

Barbara

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[jeffrey...@gmail.com]

That is cool tip about using the word, “voice-over” when toggling for instructions. In the past, I’ve used the term of “Braille keys” which did not always work.  I guess I should use the word, “Jaws” when I need to google for instructions in Windows operating system.

 

Many thanks, Brain!

 

Jeff

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[jeffrey...@gmail.com]

Brian and Barbara:

 

I apologize for clocking on the wrong email to reply to Brain today.  Sorry!

 

Now , Barbra, I have two things to say here.  First, instead of seeing the word “Add” as I have seen in the past, I see the junk test that I explained in my last email and even clicking on it doesn’t work.  Also, I would want to figure out if your instructions would work if I picked the specific email that I want to see be entered into Contact APP so I simply clicked right on the name/address that I want to be copied into the Contact Apso I’ve to wait until I get the junk text out of all over my iOS!.

 

Thanks, mucho!

 

Jeff

 

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When googling for ios commands always use the word voiceover.

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[Brian Tew]

No hyphen though. Apple does not use h1yphen. just voiceover

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[Barbara Davis]

Hello Jeff,

I did explain to you I think last month how to removed annoying junk text but I never heard anything back from you if you got it successful.

There are 3 lists in the verbsity that you need to click do nothing not only one ;ost om tje verbsotu/

When you enter verbsity you see the word ‘action’ click on it and click do nothing then go back to verbsoity and go down next after the word action it says ‘more context’ click on that and click do nothing then go back to verbsity then go down after the word more context below saying container discriptions click on it do nothing. I never see any more junk or annoying message no more till now.

I hope that helps

Please let me know if you got it successful and do not delay too long 

Thank you

Barbara

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[Barbara Davis]

Jeff,

If you read my p my ;ast post that I recently send it to you if you follow those list you will never seen junk words no more I did it and it is very successful. I never seen junk words all over my e mail or anywhere in the app is very annoying. No more I found peace of mind and is very happy with it.

Try that and let me know if it works

Thanks

Barbara

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Brian and Barbara:

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[Jan Howells]

Hi Barbara,

I am new to this list, so I thank you for that message that you
repeated. I just joined on Wednesday, I think. I am an avid
braille reader. I do like Apple. It is easier.

Jan Howells

[Barbara Davis]

Hello Jan,

Welcome to this list and I am happy you join.I hope my explain helps.

When I first upgrade to IOS 15.1 and the annoying junk text is very annoying and tried everyuthing . I couldn’t figure it out so e mail to appple support. They told me to turn off only action. I noticed there are some still weird text left over so decided to add 2 more clicks do nothing on more context and container discription. Finally saw no more weird and annoying. I am so happy as it was so hard to read what is annoying everywhere is bothering me.

The apple support said it is voiceover speaks tht is why we need to turn it off to do nothing so it quiet the voiceover not to speak action avaiable is not making sense.

I hope you will enjoy this list with a big smile also I love to help people but i am not a best ech I learn new problems every day to fix it.

Barbara


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> Hi Barbara,

>
> I am new to this list, so I thank you for that message that you repeated. I just joined on Wednesday, I think. I am an avid braille reader. I do like Apple. It is easier.
>
> Jan Howells
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[Jan Howells]

Thank you, Barbara. I love this list. I am learning already,
and it is not a week yet that I have been here. I want to use my
iPad and my Macbook Air with my braille displays. I want to use
either my Orbit 40, or my Hims u2 Mini. That way, I can look at
the layout. Braillists Foundation also teaches using braille
displays with IOS and OS, and anything you want to use them with.
They have a podcast that I downloaded on my Victor Trek so that I
can access the recordings of the teachings. They are excellent.
The podcast is called, Braillecast. I would highly recommend it
to this list. This is my favorite list. Thanks again.

Jan Howells

[Barbara Davis]

Hello Jan,

That is nice. for me if I am using any braille display that is from humanware. I can not used it as it caused my hands pains due to CT and arthrist. I must used focus braille display that is working for me.

Humanware is using different router above the cells to read that router have the bumps on each up to 20 to 40 routers. That bumps isn’t working for me. I need the flat squares so it is easier for me to press without hurting my fingers. If I press the bumps instead of the flat it hurt my fingers toward my wrait. Ouch very painful. I had to stick with Focus Blue braille display only. I had no idea about other braille display such as hims or ? There are no display here so I can’t test it. I prefer to test it to see if it match my hands.

Everyone is different and they are happy with it are important. I am happy with it is important.

Smiling

Barbara


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> On Dec 5, 2021, at 9:03 PM, Jan Howells <janhow...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Thank you, Barbara. I love this list. I am learning already, and it is not a week yet that I have been here. I want to use my iPad and my Macbook Air with my braille displays. I want to use either my Orbit 40, or my Hims u2 Mini. That way, I can look at the layout. Braillists Foundation also teaches using braille displays with IOS and OS, and anything you want to use them with. They have a podcast that I downloaded on my Victor Trek so that I can access the recordings of the teachings. They are excellent. The podcast is called, Braillecast. I would highly recommend it to this list. This is my favorite list. Thanks again.
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> Jan Howells
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[Jan Howells]

Hi Barbara,

The thumb keys are hard on my right thumbs. I have arthritis in
it from a car accident. I like the buttons on the Hims and
Orbit. The orbit is a like; nosiy to read and very noisy to
write on. But I lo"e the braille display. It is the best that I
have ever seen. It is like reading from thermoform without the
static and stiaking.

Jan

[Teresa Cochran]

Thanks for the pointer on BrailleCast. I will check it out. I’m pretty familiar with Braille commands, but there’s always something more to learn. :-)

Teresa

> On Dec 5, 2021, at 6:02 PM, Jan Howells <janhow...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Thank you, Barbara. I love this list. I am learning already, and it is not a week yet that I have been here. I want to use my iPad and my Macbook Air with my braille displays. I want to use either my Orbit 40, or my Hims u2 Mini. That way, I can look at the layout. Braillists Foundation also teaches using braille displays with IOS and OS, and anything you want to use them with. They have a podcast that I downloaded on my Victor Trek so that I can access the recordings of the teachings. They are excellent. The podcast is called, Braillecast. I would highly recommend it to this list. This is my favorite list. Thanks again.
>
> Jan Howells
>

[jeffrey...@gmail.com]

Hi Barbara:

 

I’ve checked three places to do nothing from Braille.  Surprisingly my iPhone looks so much better all over.

 

However, I do have one more place that I need to uncheck Braille and check on “Do Nothing”.  I have text which is very much unwanted in every text field did open and cannot figure out what to put in the field.  For example, in Contact in one APP, it has text fields for first, last name, and phone number but I cannot tell which is which as there is junk text g3etting into my way.

 

I’ve scouted all over sdf Braille in Voiceover   and not found where I can fix” this problem.

 

Thanks!!!

 

Kindest Regards,

Jeff

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[Barbara Davis]

hello Jeff 

You went to the wrong place. It is not in the braille list it is in the verbsity area

Let me explain again

Go to settings, go to accessibity, go to voiceover go to verbsity(not braille) enter there look for 3 list in the verbsity that shows action, more context and contain discription somthing like that. check all 3 list in that verbisty area do nothing. It will work. Do not go to braille inside not have it

I hope that helps

Barbara

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[jeffrey...@gmail.com]

Hi Barbara:  I know it is in Veribose and I have looked all over so I will look more.  Thanks!!  JEff

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[Barbara Davis]

Hello jeff,

Oh really I find it very easy and it is right there with IOS 15.2 and I can see it clear. No problem for me to track it down quickly. That is strange why you can’t find it.

Try to switch to braille grade 1 and you might read it better.

Thanks

Barbara

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