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giorgi tchkhaidze

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Oct 18, 2020, 4:29:48 PM10/18/20
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Hello everyone!

I had a dream that I think is worth sharing.

I was born in Tbilisi (Georgia). In 1992, I moved to Berlin, Germany, intending to continue my education at the Academy of Arts. For 30+ years I have also been studying Carl Jung's work and dream integration.

By the end of 2000, when the price of an ounce of gold was $300, I was working on a series of abstract pieces. I tried to shut down my consciousness during the painting process and draw inspiration from the unconscious. Several times in a row, my works came out the color of gold. Being in the middle of a kind of gold rush, I started thinking about the symbolic meaning of gold in myths, alchemy, fairy tales, religion and art. At some point, I acquired a strong intuitive feeling that the price of physical gold would rise, as art and life are inextricably linked! I began to share this knowledge with everyone around me but, of course, no one wanted to believe it! I was so confident in my intuition that I sold insurance and invested in physical gold, the Krugerrand coins.

Some 4-5 years ago, I again started thinking about gold as a long-term investment and I think the answer came to me in a dream, where it was directly said to me not to buy gold, that gold would depreciate in the long run, and its price would drop to zero, as well as that I would be better off investing in art, as did my mentor, the famous German artist Professor Klaus Fussmann! 

My dream provided no hint as to why, how soon, or in what way this would happen. But I am absolutely certain that this prediction will come true. 

What is your opinion on the subject?

Georgi


George

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Oct 18, 2020, 5:50:18 PM10/18/20
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Hi Georgi:   Very interesting.  Many years ago I studied dreams and did a lot of recording of my dreams, yet my understanding of my dreams was still near ZERO!   Then I read David Oates' book "It's Only A Metaphor."  THE morning after reading that book I remembered a dream and it MADE GREAT SENSE!!!  From reading that book, I started thinking metaphorically!  My metaphoric thinking has faded a bit since then, but I still understand about half of my dreams, so there is a fair chance that my sense of what you wrote is close.
    The message that I get from what you wrote, is that money (gold is a metaphor for money) will soon be meaningless and the real treasure is the art of us - our consciousness expansion.  From what I've seen from the CTT work that I've done, that treasure is immense and LIMITLESS!!!!!  We are already helping people heal life long problems in minutes.
   One man was remote viewing for a few months better than anyone that I could find out about on the planet!!  Want to get a glimpse of our potential?  Read "Life And Teachings Of The Masters Of The Far East. - first four volumes.  i did not resonate with volume 5.
 
 
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William E. Isakson

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Oct 18, 2020, 7:25:53 PM10/18/20
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Giorgi,   Dreams often do contain material displaced in time (in both directions).   I also studied dreams, kept records, and compared to waking reality (for most of my life, but especially since the late 1970's) and then later while I was in seminary I studied dreams in particular under a Jungian, Jeremy Taylor.   So, I do have some experience with dreams.   Dreams inicdents can manifest into waking reality the next day, the next week, or even many years later and I have no trouble believing in what a dream tells me about the world or about myself whether the reference is to past or future.   However, I am a little concerned with your phrase "....it was directly told to me that....."   See, if that happens in the context of the dream, where one of the characters tells you that, it is ok.   And, by the way, it is well known that all of the characters are you.   However, if that were a disembodied voice, a narrator, for example, who directly told you that,,,,,then it is probably not in the dream itself, but something else.   Frankly I do not trust that one.
As for gold, gold will always be worth itself, but it is only gold.   I would not invest in it unless it was to use it in some artwork or other practical use where shifts in the economy do not effect its real value, only its price.   
In the end, dreams work very much like our ARV work here, except that the work here is more deliberate.  It goes to your own subconscious which evidently really does have more connections to our world than our conscious mind does.   Trust your dreams, but understand what is dream and what comes from outside, like that disembodied voice that comes from outside.  It has a different quality.
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whatagoat.rope

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Oct 19, 2020, 7:51:09 AM10/19/20
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I am also an artist and I agree with what you are saying.  I am trying to do practical application of ARV using ARV studio software.  I have been trying to target the price of Silver for the years 2020-2021.  Here is my most recent viewing:  I asked if 1 Ounce of Silver was going to USD $200 or above in  the year 2020 or 2021:  The answering image represented "NO".  Anyone else care to do an RV on this?  Here are my results.
Event20_SilverOver 200-NO.JPG
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MARC PAUL

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Oct 19, 2020, 2:54:05 PM10/19/20
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I ve done alot of associated remote viewing aka ARV.  From my own ( i cannot speak for someone else) experience of playing with this method is that many factors play a role.

This thing requires interest and practice. One or two session is not gonna do much.

2nd, "the cue" is very important, particularly the words, the grammar used. Be simple and clear. 


3rd, the random images used, have to be balanced energetically. I had to study my images before pairing them over 50 of them, made sure they had contrast and were balanced energetically / appropriate. No body talks about this.

4th, the space, time, your mind state,
clearing your blockages is also crucial. Understanding what emotional trauma / blockage is holding you back. This can be or is personal. George D. recommends CTT. It helped me with this.


5th: do many sessions on the same target, have many cues ( question the desired out come or result differently, do it different times, then judge....

Its an interactive experience../ ask questions about the correct image during the session. The one that pays attention most will know. Your attention / observation is key. 

Look at how other people like Ed Dames, Lyn Buchanan does it.


There is famous saying  "whatever gets watched, gets done."  I dont know who it is by, for me its the wisdom it carries.


Do alot of sessions on the same target using various different cues, look at it from every cranny, every angle like your room.  



Your challenge
Find cues that work, test them manytimes.

Dont write any shit and expect it to work because it makes sense to you. Doesnt work that way. Go hard at it, this is not for a weak mind.


Regards
Marc









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Giancarlo Soler Torrijos

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Oct 19, 2020, 3:33:00 PM10/19/20
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I agree. On the use of random picture generators, I also learned that I should always try to follow the same route/procedure.  For example, I use the same random picture generator, and the first picture will be Picture A (TRUE), and the second one will be Picture B (False).  So my mind focuses on the contents of the image.



giorgi tchkhaidze

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Oct 19, 2020, 6:03:30 PM10/19/20
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Hi Bill,

Thank you for your email. In my dream it was said without words, I did not see anyone. I was very surprised by the direct instruction, usually this does not happen in my dreams. 

It is difficult for me to imagine how gold can be devalued. But, we know that the black swan arrives unexpectedly. Maybe it will be possible to synthesize gold artificially at low cost?

Georgi 






Am Mo., Okt. 19, 2020 at 1:25 schrieb William E. Isakson

MARC PAUL

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Oct 19, 2020, 7:54:47 PM10/19/20
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Gold will not go to zero dollars, Please dont be naive. Money is used as a guage / measurement factor in our economy.

Its takes work and time to refine gold and present it in the manner or form that is recognizable to us as some value. Gold is in everything. 

People are not gonna refine it for free. In addition, the human race was created and genetically modified around producing gold, its a type of element that have many irreplaceable technological uses beyond its value in money and current knowing. Its an element of the future and as it was in our far past over 300, 0000 years ago.

Many future nano technologies in cancer curing and time travel, time space manipulation will revolve around gold. 



To really answer your question about gold and prices. The experience of knowing is more important than the result.  The result is meaning less without your specific experience in it.


Be clear and ask your self

what form of gold you are seeking
I know what you are seeking, but are you clear about it.


Is it real gold, what is real gold to you?

is it a bar
 or is it a contract like usd / xau


it cannot be "xau" by it self. There is no such thing as gold price, this ideal will confuse your conscious mind because it is not clear / concise.


Then why does it matter about what price it will be? Do you think Uber got rich off one or two transaction.


Going back to what you really want.

They are people selling and buying gold prices / contracts xau/usd or xau/cad or xau/eur and etc.


The gain by selling and buying constantly. Its a price game. The market is evolved, its not about buying and holding on waiting for an up price to gain.


People look for that downward price to sell, without having equity. The wagering on the price to move downwards same as to how people are wagering on the price to move upwards.


The gain is in the range of movement, and the constant movement of prices, in which many opportunities for transactions are conducted. This is true investing.  The price doesnt matter, your position of in/out matters. The experience. Tranactions with an s as in many.


Pardon my language, fuck prices, who cares,
the experience of positioning your self correctly during the wave of market movements is critical. The price is just noise. 


Give up the idea that you need to buy wait for it to rise. You can sell and wait for it to drop and gain.

The actual gold price is equivalent work / time it represents. So it cannot be zero. Same with "shit", it has a tradable value called methane gas. So you see even shit cannot be zero dollars.






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Derek Decker

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Oct 19, 2020, 8:35:45 PM10/19/20
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George

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Oct 19, 2020, 11:17:26 PM10/19/20
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Hi Marc:
     Re "gold will not go to zero dollars."  While we have an economy, you are correct.  But,  what happens when we have no economy and we have replicators?  Ever heard of that?  You walk up to your replicator and send it the thought of what you want and BIZZT there it is.  You want something to eat, send it the thought and BIZZT there it is and you eat all that you want.  You want to experience the feel of gold?  Send that thought to your replicator and there it is.  I strongly suspect that THIS decade we will meet the benevolent ETs and they will share their technology with us and one big part of that is replicators.  There are several good sources indicating that this will happen.
    Again, THE big thimg that we would do well to focus on is the expansion of our consciousness.  Material things will in the end be meaningless!  Anyone want some sources for this info?

 
 
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MARC PAUL

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Oct 20, 2020, 1:28:16 AM10/20/20
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Yes my friend George you could be correct about the replicator.


I did do some research on scientists that have done work on the replicator and also the explored techniques on materializing objects, this being known in the scientific community as light encoded reality matrix , LERM, or light encoded observer-ship manifestation, LEOM and could have other names. 

These research was done by several scientist from a group in California called Life Physics Foundation whom were influenced by the idea that ETs were training top military scientists on how to LERM on demand for their jobs in the technology transfer. It was a requirement.

 It was part of the technology exchange program where they would remote view different time travel technologies from different civilizations across the galaxy / universe and replicate the device here for reverse engineering. Apparently they were able to successfully able recreate the technology to alter time.


I am not aware of your sources do share that would be interesting to explore their techniques.


However as per gold, it is different. It takes a much higher input of electrical energy as compared to something else like an apple to replicate. That being said and just like it was in the past 300, 0000 years ago it was more effective / energy effecient to mine it because the amount energy required does not compensate for the actual value.


So yes George , the replicator idea is correct but not as efficient for something as gold. Studies were done where they tried changing the atomic number in lead 82 to gold 79, and success proven that it cost much more energy wise that what the amount of gold was compensating.


I could be wrong but my point is that not all things can be replicated easily, some might cost more energy wise than what physical manifestation may compensate for. 

Regards
Marc
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glyn

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Oct 20, 2020, 6:31:35 AM10/20/20
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I am not sure just when the allocation of true/false etc. actually takes place when using different computer systems. That link to the actual outcome is vital of course. Like you Giancarlo Soler Torrijos, I think it should be there from the outset, but I wonder if that is always the case. Your way of doing it makes a lot of sense to me. 

Also, I absolutely agree with Marc Paul that photos should be “balanced energetically”. For instance, having a complex scene in one photo, with lots to describe, but just a single item with no background in the other, with very few colours, and nothing much to describe compared to the first photo.. That is important I think, and yes not often discussed. 

whatagoat.rope

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EVERYTHING is about energy.  The "cost" of anything can be measured in that way.  If one believes that either gold or silver are unimportant and are disdainful of those who think differently; perhaps one should stop driving their car or using a cell phone (or always keep the lights off) as silver is in all of these things including the light switch.  In this case one would be forced to use fire (energy) as both light and energy in order to survive.  In that sense fire also has an expense in the form of matter consumed.  Even humans are energy as we all know.  As thinking beings I believe that learning how to control the energy of our own beings as well as the energy of the elements around us (science is dependent on energy as are we.)  This is how we dwell in this universe.  The stock market and just about anything is dependent on the duality of "true/false, yes/no, good/evil, action/inertia.  Duality seems to be a law of the universe somewhat like gravity.  In these terms in reference to the Comex or the stock market we are making choices when we add energy (money) to a business or endeavor or we withdraw or do not indulge.  I do not understand the ethereal attitude of some who seem to believe that they are somehow "above" the very element which is the substance of both life and matter: prosperity or poverty.  To me, these "higher thoughts" sometimes seem only to be a way of virtue signaling to others (negative energy) while not taking the risk or responsibility of participating in this Universe.  I think people who don't participate are also making a decision and usually end up poor and bitter and don't know how or why it happened.  This is ego at it's worst.  Hopefully as we progress we will learn how to manipulate our Universe in such a way that we all prosper together.  In the end we are always left with the dual choice of good or evil, truth or lies.  This is one reason I love remote viewing.  It leaves out our prejudices and feelings and gives actionable feedback.  It helps me determine the direction I need to go to be prosperous.  not only materially but just about any question I choose to ask.  The answer is there.

Amy McKenney

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Oct 20, 2020, 6:58:06 AM10/20/20
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True/False is already present in remote viewing as one is looking into the future when RVing images.  One goes into the future and gets the information and translates it.  The fact of true/false is only in danger of being wrong when our ego misreads the result.

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whatagoat.rope

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Oct 20, 2020, 7:09:40 AM10/20/20
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Back to the subject of Duality:  I believe the answer is given as soon as the question is asked.  Question/Answer.  We may not like the answer, we may not have the means to prove the answer yet or we might outright reject it.  Nevertheless it is present within the question.  Also we may not have the means to gain access to the answer but the question may not be asked or even thought unless there is an answer attached.  This is the beauty of it all.  The answer is going to be present and doesn't even care about our feelings or belief systems, ego or attitude.  We call that truth.  Some seek truth and some are willing to pay a great price to find it.  How wonderful.  This; to me, is a higher being.

glyn

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Oct 20, 2020, 7:31:14 AM10/20/20
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I absolutely agree that we somehow get access to information from the future, no doubt about that, and that the true or false actual outcome is there. However, I do think it is possible to confuse that part of us that obtains the information. Conscious intent is important, but is it always being understood on that deeper level? Nothing to do with ego I think.



GABRIEL/SHEILA CAMERINI

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Oct 20, 2020, 9:16:54 AM10/20/20
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Hi all

If there was a free-market, where buyers and sellers could FREELY participate in the daily auction, maybe we would see gold going lower or much higher. There are plenty of documentaries and books explaining how JP Morgan has cornered the metals market for several years. They just pay a fine once in a while and get away with it.

The markets are controlled by algos, price levels are defended by the Institutional side today, specially with the FED injecting liquidity even in the Junk Bond market. The central bank of Japan is the biggest ETF owner in the japanese stock market. The European Central bank has been buying bonds for several years. All central banks around the world are keeping the market up with unjustifiable valuations. Nothing to do with the big lie that we are on an economic V shaped recovery. This is pure reverse socialism. The mandate from central banks is only to keep monetary policy in check; not to interfere in the capital markets.

Gabe

Marty Rosenblatt

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Time to take this to PEM (Private Email).  No longer related to RV/ARV.  Thanks. - Marty

Amy McKenney

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I don't think I believe that anything is randomly generated.  If that were the case everything would be chaos.  Sometimes we don't get the question right and may get what appears to be a wrong or nonsensical answer.  Perhaps some things are unknowable.  In the instance Tom? gave of picking "a winner" in horse racing and they got the horse that placed third - in Universe gave him an answer because the third place horse is still a winner.  Sometimes we just don't properly understand the mechanics (or assumptions) we are making when we ask the question perhaps?  Sometimes I wonder If when we are asking a question we simply get an answer because we are asking for an answer but not asking for the answer that is correct . . . so we simply receive any old answer.  HA.  I think more often than not the question has to be asked whether it is in our dreams or in waking.  Something (God) is leading us toward a more clear, present and conscious existence.  At least I like to believe that.

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Amy McKenney

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I agree with you about no free markets!  That is why I like the RV way.  It doesn't matter who is manipulating the outcome.  We are only free in our spirit, in our mind.  Getting answers in this way cuts out the middle man (manipulating man) and still gives the correct answer.  I do verify my answers often in different ways though just to be sure, after getting a price I may work on getting a general time frame from the year to the quarter to the week.  It is a lot of work.

Daniela Giordano

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Dreams, lucid dreams and what do you call the "communication call"?.  I have never been able to communicate to my inner self what I want. 
I have never been able to show the right direction to it, but IT is able to tell me (in dreams) if there is something that hurts me: something, not exactly what. 
I learnt during the years that a wall with many hunts means I will have some physical problem: It could be a flu or a cold or a sprain.
Or if I dream of a tiger, lion, elefant, it means I have some problem with my blood: a lack of vitamins or minerals in the blood. (I'm often on a diet - in my way (:-) ) and generally the problem is a lack of minerals. 
More, if I dream I lose a tooth, it means I am going to lose money. Not how I am going to lose it. 
This is the only concrete thing I have been able to learn during the years.
I "suffer" my inner self. Yes, sometimes I learn, but that's all. The others, the lucid dreams, are erratics: places I do not know or situations I do not understand. 
How can I go about taking ME the staff of command?  

Daniela  

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GEORGI TCHKHAIDZE

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Oct 3, 2025, 7:15:58 PM (2 days ago) Oct 3
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Hi all,

I've been thinking a lot about my dream and how the price of gold could decline extremely in the long term.

Today I came across an article that may eventually become a reality. 

What do you think?

Have a great day everyone

Georgi 

This Startup Claims It Can Turn Mercury Into Gold Using Fusion Energy and Scientists Are Intrigued

https://www.zmescience.com/science/news-science/this-startup-claims-it-can-turn-mercury-into-gold-using-fusion-energy-and-scientists-are-intrigued/

Baruch Feldman

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Here is the English translation of the previous answer:

If the nuclear transmutation technology described in the article succeeds and becomes commercial, there is a high probability that it will have a strong negative impact on gold prices in the long term, but not necessarily an immediate collapse.

Core Effects on the Gold Market

  • If mass production reaches thousands of tons of gold per year (as estimated, up to 5,000 kg for every gigawatt of nuclear power), this would be a significant addition to the global market, which currently produces about 3,500 tons annually.
  • A substantial increase in supply, especially if the new gold is chemically identical to existing market gold, could lead to a drop in prices.

Practical Limits and Conditions

  • However, the article emphasizes that making the new gold market-ready requires a storage period of over a decade due to radioactivity. That means the effect would not be immediate but would depend on the release rate into the market.
  • Engineering challenges, high production costs, and slow market introduction will limit the pace of flooding the market in the early phases of technological adoption.
  • Governments and regulatory bodies may intervene to prevent extreme instability in the gold market.

Bottom Line

If and when the technology matures and production expands widely, a significant decline in gold prices is expected—but this process will likely be gradual and unfold over several years, depending on the reactions of investors, industries, and government policy.


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