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> I understand Apple's desire to keep new products as secret as possible until they are announced to the public, but sometimes that has a direct effect on the preparedness of third-pary developers. A very good example of this was the release of the 64-bit capable Aperture. While it was good for the user that you provided a "32-bit compatibility relaunch mode", it essentially left all of your third-party developers with a bit of egg on their face and scrambling to get the products back up to par.
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> I would really prefer (and appreciate) not having to experience that again.
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> So that leads me to my first few questions regarding Aperture and Lion:
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> 1) Is Aperture currently sandboxed? (My inference from my testing to date is that it is not).
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> 2) When will it become a sandboxed app?
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> 3) It is my understanding that sandboxed apps must have their plug-ins converted into XPC services in order to run on Lion. Will Aperture be providing some kind of automatic "wrapper" for exiting third-party plug-ins? or are we going to have to perform the conversion?
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> From: Fraser Speirs <fra...@speirs.org>
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> Very good questions and I concur that it would be highly desirable to
> have some advance warning of the plans. I have established some
> answers to the technical side of how sandboxed applications can load
> plugins in this devforums thread:
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> https://devforums.apple.com/message/471293
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> My understanding is that it is _desirable_ but not _required_ that
> sandboxed apps quarantine their plugins via XPC.
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> There is a deadline set for apps in the Mac App Store to adopt
> sandboxing (it's referred to in the WWDC "Apple Platforms Kickoff"
> video, IIRC) and I assume Aperture will be sandboxed by that time.
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> The key question is whether Aperture's entitlements will be permissive
> enough to let us do what we need to do as plugin authors.
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> Fraser
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> On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Clarence Locke
> <clar...@blueroomsoftware.com> wrote:
>> I understand Apple's desire to keep new products as secret as possible until they are announced to the public, but sometimes that has a direct effect on the preparedness of third-pary developers. A very good example of this was the release of the 64-bit capable Aperture. While it was good for the user that you provided a "32-bit compatibility relaunch mode", it essentially left all of your third-party developers with a bit of egg on their face and scrambling to get the products back up to par.
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>> I would really prefer (and appreciate) not having to experience that again.
>>
>>
>> So that leads me to my first few questions regarding Aperture and Lion:
>>
>> 1) Is Aperture currently sandboxed? (My inference from my testing to date is that it is not).
>>
>> 2) When will it become a sandboxed app?
>>
>> 3) It is my understanding that sandboxed apps must have their plug-ins converted into XPC services in order to run on Lion. Will Aperture be providing some kind of automatic "wrapper" for exiting third-party plug-ins? or are we going to have to perform the conversion?
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Angus Wathen
Apologies to other list members for my ineptitude in unsubscribing from the list. But you'll probably understand why with responses like this.
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On Jul 5, 2011, at 3:18 PM, Reaves, Timothy wrote:
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> I'm sorry, are you a moron, or just an idiot?
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> Apologies to other list members for my ineptitude in unsubscribing from the list. But you'll probably understand why with responses like this.
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> Added to my black list. Hope you have the option to as well.
Whenever you get a reply like that, just remember that the poster surely must have a much worse day/month/life than you. :-)
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