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Greg Graham

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Dec 26, 2001, 1:39:49 AM12/26/01
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If you are planning to register domain names in the new year please remember
that you can save by registering for several years, or by registering
several domains at the same time.

For example multiyear registrations of .com,.org, or .net are in the range
of $9.75. At My Fair Domains ( http://www.myfairdomains.com/) you get
additional savings on renewals or on transfers from other registration
services.

Watch out for services that offer low registration prices on condition that
you host with their service -- you often end up paying in another way for
what seemed a bargin.

Domains using the extensions .info, .biz, and .ws can now be had for under
$15.00 per year.

http://www.myfairdomains.com/ also links to other sites providing speciality
services such as .fm, .cd, .tv, etc. and to sites for appraisial and resale
of domain names.


Chip Rosenthal

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Dec 26, 2001, 1:55:45 AM12/26/01
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In article <ZgeW7.36697$0J1.1...@weber.videotron.net>,

Greg Graham <gregg...@videotron.ca> wrote:
>For example multiyear registrations of .com,.org, or .net are in the range
>of $9.75.

How many years? Dotster, for example, is cheaper on a ten-year
renewal ($9.49/yr). Plus, THEY AREN'T NEWSGROUP SPAMMING SCUMBAGS.

--
Chip Rosenthal * http://www.unicom.com/ * <ch...@unicom.com>
They're after my domain! * http://save.unicom.com/

John Groseclose

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Dec 26, 2001, 7:38:26 AM12/26/01
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In article <a0bs9h$tip$1...@coldsnap.unicom.com>, Chip Rosenthal
<ch...@unicom.com> wrote:

> In article <ZgeW7.36697$0J1.1...@weber.videotron.net>,
> Greg Graham <gregg...@videotron.ca> wrote:
> >For example multiyear registrations of .com,.org, or .net are in the range
> >of $9.75.
>
> How many years? Dotster, for example, is cheaper on a ten-year
> renewal ($9.49/yr). Plus, THEY AREN'T NEWSGROUP SPAMMING SCUMBAGS.

What did you expect from a videotron.ca user? I've never seen anything
*but* spamming scumbags from there...

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Chris Bellomy

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Dec 26, 2001, 11:50:18 AM12/26/01
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In austin.internet John Groseclose <bi...@caradoc.org> wrote:
: In article <a0bs9h$tip$1...@coldsnap.unicom.com>, Chip Rosenthal

: <ch...@unicom.com> wrote:
:
:> In article <ZgeW7.36697$0J1.1...@weber.videotron.net>,
:> Greg Graham <gregg...@videotron.ca> wrote:
:> >For example multiyear registrations of .com,.org, or .net are in the range
:> >of $9.75.
:>
:> How many years? Dotster, for example, is cheaper on a ten-year
:> renewal ($9.49/yr). Plus, THEY AREN'T NEWSGROUP SPAMMING SCUMBAGS.
:
: What did you expect from a videotron.ca user? I've never seen anything
: *but* spamming scumbags from there...

That's because they have an ongoing problem with open SOCKS proxies
in their netspace with POST access to their news server. They don't
seem to be very motivated to fix this.

cb

Greg Graham

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Dec 28, 2001, 1:31:29 AM12/28/01
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Well hello and welcome to Austin. I see that Chip's welcome wagon is still
running.

I am glad Chip picked up that the range of prices I quoted was well within
the range of Dotster, who recently lowered their prices. In fact the site I
mentioned (http://www.myfairdomains.com) does link to a branch of dotster
(namewinner.com).

I am very sorry that Chip has to attack every bit of information as SPAM and
its sender as a SCUMBAG.

Please understand that Chip's own domain registration is having problems .
www.unicom.com is being sued by UNICOM Systems Inc. for cybersquatting, even
though Chip has a prior claim to the domain name and a similiarly named
business.

I for one side with Chip even if he calls me a scumbag. I believe that free
circulation of information about domain registration issues (including wide
price variations) is one ofthe best way to prevent the type of abuse Chip is
facing from a company and lawyers who confuse trademark and domain
registration law.

http://www.myfairdomains.com has links to other sites specializing in resale
and trademark issues around domain names. But go to Chip's site (
www.unicom.com) and read his story - his case goes to court on Jan 2. and
you can help his defense fund (If he doesn't think it is SPAM to mention it)

Greg Graham

(That's my real name John and Chris, and videotron.ca is a great server, I
also get cable Tv fromthem as well as internet)


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John Groseclose

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Dec 28, 2001, 8:37:13 AM12/28/01
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In article <olUW7.6552$SD2.5...@wagner.videotron.net>, Greg Graham
<gregg...@videotron.ca> wrote:

> videotron.ca is a great server, I
> also get cable Tv fromthem as well as internet

Right. That would explain the several hundred FTP and proxy connection
attempts my firewalls report daily from videotron.ca, and why their
abuse personnel don't do *anything* to stop it.

Sure, they're great. They don't disconnect their spammers. That would
explain why you like them so much.

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Martin Hotze

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Dec 28, 2001, 2:17:48 PM12/28/01
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In article <281220010637138191%use...@caradoc.org>,
John Groseclose <use...@caradoc.org> wrote:

> In article <olUW7.6552$SD2.5...@wagner.videotron.net>, Greg Graham
> <gregg...@videotron.ca> wrote:
>
> > videotron.ca is a great server, I
> > also get cable Tv fromthem as well as internet
>
> Right. That would explain the several hundred FTP and proxy connection
> attempts my firewalls report daily from videotron.ca, and why their
> abuse personnel don't do *anything* to stop it.
>


aahhh. so it's not only me who sees that. I am thinking about blocking
their whole network on my network.

#m

(x-post reduced, f-up set)
--
One of my former employees offered a "lifetime guarantee" to a customer.
He offered to come over and shoot the guy if the device ever failed.
(Ron Natalie in rec.aviation.piloting)

Greg Graham

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Dec 28, 2001, 5:13:19 PM12/28/01
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At least some of us have a real return address, unlike Mr. Groseclose. Stop
trolling, John.

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Greg Graham

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Dec 28, 2001, 5:50:55 PM12/28/01
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Martin,
How are things in Innsbruck, I don't know much about probes and network
firewalls, since I never tried it. You may see more videotron traffic in
Europe, since it is Quebec based (like me) and uses French more than English
as a working language. It has subsidaries (or sister companies) in Europe,
and throughout Latin America (largely Spanish).
Why would anyone want to probe your network? Austria is a reletively
small and inward looking market for an outsider to sell in, making spamming
it absurd.
On the other hand there are some excellent software products coming from
Austria. For example, INFRANVIEW is one of the best graphic editors I know
of and is downloadable as freeware for personal use.
I also find Martin's prices for domain registration higher than they need
to be (he charges about $18 US per year at todays exchange rate for
.com,.net, and .org). I still think the prices ranges listed in my first
message should be more the norm than the exception.
To be fair Martin's prices are fair by Innsbruck standards - at least
compared to what I paid for overcooked sausage there. But that is another
story. Guten Tag.


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John Groseclose

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Dec 28, 2001, 10:50:34 PM12/28/01
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In article <k86X7.29047$ZL6.8...@weber.videotron.net>, Greg Graham
<gregg...@videotron.ca> wrote:

> At least some of us have a real return address, unlike Mr. Groseclose. Stop
> trolling, John.
>
> "John Groseclose" <use...@caradoc.org> wrote in message
> news:281220010637138191%use...@caradoc.org...
> > In article <olUW7.6552$SD2.5...@wagner.videotron.net>, Greg Graham
> > <gregg...@videotron.ca> wrote:
> >
> > > videotron.ca is a great server, I
> > > also get cable Tv fromthem as well as internet

Speaking of trolling... "videotron.ca is a great server?"

I have a real e-mail address. I simply find it to be less than useful
in posting to Usenet - the only people who'll be using it to reply to
me are spammers, which get caught in the flypaper at those addresses.

It rotates, too - there are multiple spamtraps associated with my
Usenet postings, hence the .sig which tells you not to reply via
e-mail.

Strangely enough, it was a videotron.ca spammer that finally caused me
to quit using a "real" e-mail address in Usenet posts, as they hit an
address that had only ever been used on Usenet, and apparently ended up
on one of the many "600 BILLION E-MAIL ADDRESSES ON CD!" packages.

Anyone who really feels the need to reach me via e-mail can find my
address with relatively little work, and it's deliverable - as long as
they're not sending from videotron.ca or any number of other
spamhausen. I blackholed their mailservers at the same time I started
posting with spamtrapped addresses.

For anyone else who's contemplating blackholing videotron.ca - I
haven't missed a thing except spam. And I'm not missing it...

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Greg Graham

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Dec 29, 2001, 1:14:11 AM12/29/01
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How can you define your entire existence in terms of defending yourself from
the odd e-mail? I agree that buying a CD with six million e-mail addresses
is wrong, and I don't believe in sending mass messages to personal e-mail
adresses, but to heap abuse on my original post, to heap abuse on me
personally, and to abuse a very good cable based server because you had once
received spam that you suspect was forwarded through it, seems a little
overboard.
My original post was sent only to groups that were discussing domain
registrations, or had recently discussed the same, with some posters
"signatures" leading to registrations at prices somewhat higher than what
should be the current standard, and other offering registration traps - low
registration but long term expensive hosting. I am sorry if my adressing
this upset you.

If you need a cause, why not fight the corporatization of the net, often
being led by the very companies whose computers host USENET groups? Their
ultimate goal is a commercialized Internet, that will make TV advertising
seem mild by comparision.

By the way, Videotron was one of the few cable servers in North America
not involved in the @home fiasco, and its affialited companies operating in
French and Spanish are a healthy counterpoint to the dominance of a few
mainstream multinationals.

But go ahead and rant about it , the fact that you once received spam at
your personal e-mail has obviously affected the rest of your entire life.

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John Groseclose

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Dec 29, 2001, 6:50:41 AM12/29/01
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In article <7bdX7.20309$SD2.1...@wagner.videotron.net>, Greg Graham
<gregg...@videotron.ca> wrote:

> But go ahead and rant about it , the fact that you once received spam at
> your personal e-mail has obviously affected the rest of your entire life.

I'm sorry you got the impression that all of this hatred directed at
videotron is based on "once receiving spam at my personal e-mail
address."

If you'd bothered to *read* my posts, you'd know that it's based on
getting a *lot* of spam at multiple e-mail addresses, both personal and
professional, as well as FTP connection attempts, portscans, relay
attempts through my mailservers, AND videotron's personnel completely
ignoring the complaints about their users.

I'm very sorry that your reading comprehension is so low.

I'm also very sorry that I've had to abandon an e-mail address because
it was receiving so much spam that it was useless to try to filter it
out - and I mean in the 500 spam messages per day range.

I'm also very sorry that I've had to buy bigger hard drives for mail
servers because of the spam coming in.

I'm sorry that the majority of mail servers on the 'net will no longer
relay openly if something goes wrong with mail routing - because of the
spammers.

And as far as ranting at the commercialization of the internet, wasn't
that what I (as well as others) were doing to *you* for your little
spam to these very Usenet newsgroups?

Go back to your primary school teacher, and berate her for not teaching
you how to read.

The Ranger

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Dec 29, 2001, 12:23:29 PM12/29/01
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[cross-posted groups trimmed]
Greg Graham, top-posted and whinged:
[snip of banal whinings]

> But go ahead and rant about it , the fact that you once received
>spam at your personal e-mail has obviously affected the rest of
>your entire life.

Yeah, that's it. John G's obsessing about "once receiving spam at" his
"personal e-mail."

You have a difficult time reading for comprehension, donchya?

The Ranger

Greg Graham

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Dec 29, 2001, 6:04:05 PM12/29/01
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"John Groseclose" <bi...@caradoc.org> wrote in message > >
> If you'd bothered to *read* my posts, you'd know that it's based on
> getting a *lot* of spam at multiple e-mail addresses,


I did *read* your posts and found the overstatement and hyperbole detracted
from your credibility.


> I'm also very sorry that I've had to abandon an e-mail address because
> it was receiving so much spam that it was useless to try to filter it
> out - and I mean in the 500 spam messages per day range.
>

500 a day is indeed a lot - but if you have multiple e-mail addresses as you
say, then perhaps 10 to twenty a day at each of your twenty to fifty
addresses might be realistic.

I have been online for over a decade. I use my own name, and have made
online purchases regularly (so should be a target), yet I merit at maximum
less than ten "unsolicited commercial" messages a day sent to my e-mail
address. And I do not have any spam filters. What makes you so desirable
to spammers?

> I'm also very sorry that I've had to buy bigger hard drives for mail
> servers because of the spam coming in.
>
>
>

> And as far as ranting at the commercialization of the internet, wasn't
> that what I (as well as others) were doing to *you* for your little
> spam to these very Usenet newsgroups?

I was refering to the Internet -- I thought you purists insist that Usenet
and Internet are not the same.
But you would rather rant about a first post to a discussion group on
Internet topics (one of which is domain registration), than even address the
larger issues such as the corporate bullying Chip is facing. If you
areconcerned about your newsgroups purity look at the off-topic posts ( eg.
trance-formation of America, NICE GIRLS SEX, etc)

> Go back to your primary school teacher, and berate her for not teaching
you how to read.

My primary teacher thaught in a one-room school in the far north. I went to
class by dog team after tending the traplines. She taught me to read very
well, and more importantly how to think for myself.
> --

kenji

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Dec 29, 2001, 10:01:03 PM12/29/01
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In article <ZZrX7.38812$ZL6.1...@weber.videotron.net>,
"Greg Graham" <gregg...@videotron.ca> wrote:

> What makes you so desirable
> to spammers?

Porn and warez.

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