Re: S.D.Brooks

[The Real George Wythe]

"As a private entity, we have no legal or moral obligation to consult
the general public about the operations of GWC."

Was saying this really necessary? He could at least put on the
appearance of being open to debate...

Have you ever been to Monticello? It is one of the more remote
locations in Utah. It's bucolic and picturesque, for sure, but not
exactly where I'd move an organization heavily dependent on seminar
travel. I've never understood why they're moving there, other than to
guess that it's because someone gave them the land. But if you read
"First Fifteen Years" Brooks makes it seem like settling on Monticello
was the result of a long, deliberative, well-thought-out process. But
I think it's because someone gave them the land. He's right though,
they're a private organization. I fault the followers as much as
Brooks.

I've wondered though if they're going to start forcing the locals to
call it Monti-CHELLO instead of the traditional Monti-SELLO.

On Aug 20, 5:22 am, random.cri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Here is an interesting protest from a Tjeder regarding GWC moving to
> Monticello with Shannon's reponse:
>
> http://www.tjed.org/forums/general/the-breaking-news-regarding-gwc-mo...
>
> Brooks' response is revealing on several levels:
>
> 1) He is extremeley defensive in regards to criticism. He said that he
> will respond to each issue in the posting, but he doesn't. He says
> nothing about the issues with uranium, and soil quality in Monticello.
> Rather, he sidesteps by saying that they have no plan to leave cedar
> city and are merely establishing another campus in Monticello. Well,
> check out this link:
>
> http://www.gwc.edu/philanthropy/campus/2008.php
>
> If they are just creating a "second campus" in Monticello then where
> will administrative duties take place? Cedar City? With all of those
> French and English buildings, you expect them to retain their small
> campus in Cedar City?
>
> 2) He misunderstood the reason for the protest:
>
> "I take it that you assume that the religious diversity or the lack of
> diversity in Cedar is somehow connected to GWC. It is not. I have
> lived here for 12 years out of the last 15, and I am not aware of a
> single religion that has be affected by GWC. We would certainly
> welcome a Synagogue in Cedar and have embraced people of all faiths in
> the classroom, and onto our board and faculty."
>
> Okay, too bad she didn't even accuse/blame GWC for decreasing
> diversity in Cedar City. He completely misunderstood her.
>
> 3) He obviously doesn't have any respect for future students and
> Tjeders:
>
> As a private entity, we have no legal or moral obligation to consult
> the general public about the operations of GWC.
>
> It is very sad that people listen to this guy. Given his obvious
> incompetence, I can't believe the power that Shannon Brooks has at
> GWC. He must have spent hours but kissing "Dr" DeMille.

[Cynical Pen]

Actually what I forsee happening is a mass exodus to Monticello and a total takeover of the town. Not in a military way, that would be too entertaining, but in a population way. Monticello (if their plans succeed) will be the Mecca of the Tjeders, or perhaps WACO would be a better comparison. Either way, I think zombies and zealots will start purchasing land and moving there permanent, provided they can figure out ways to finance it. In fact, I think it's already begun - albeit slowly.

[random...@yahoo.com]

I actually don't think it will be so Waco because the locals won't
really care. I think that their plan is to take over the town, fill
all political offices with statesmen, run state representatives,
attempt economic takeover (and failing), funneling money to GWC,
attempting recognition for their scheme, etc. In the end the state
will figure out what is going on, and investigate them once and for
all.

On Aug 20, 2:16 pm, "Cynical Pen" <cynical...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Actually what I forsee happening is a mass exodus to Monticello and a total
> takeover of the town. Not in a military way, that would be too entertaining,
> but in a population way. Monticello (if their plans succeed) will be the
> Mecca of the Tjeders, or perhaps WACO would be a better comparison. Either
> way, I think zombies and zealots will start purchasing land and moving there
> permanent, provided they can figure out ways to finance it. In fact, I think
> it's already begun - albeit slowly.
>

> > > GWC. He must have spent hours but kissing "Dr" DeMille.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

[Cynical Pen]

I think they'll escape attention for a very long time, since their not doing anything illegal - at least not obviously so. They will make a compound though, like the polygamists, and live their sheltered, self-suppresed lives out in a warped existence. The real victims here are the children yet to be born. It's hard to see how any of them will have a fair chance at a normal life.