Antconc crashing in Fileview

[Kate Ferreira]

I was wondering if you had ever experienced the following, and if you had any advice: Antconc crashes a lot!! Mostly in file view. It doesn't matter if I am on my Mac or the home PC (which have vastly different specs), or whether I am looking at one week or years worth of files (organised into smaller folders). 

I've struggled through it till now, doing a couple of pieces at a time until it crashes and I start again, but now it's driving me mad :( and I've run out of time and need to pick up the pace on my work...

Thanks

Kate

[Laurence Anthony]

Hi Kate,

I've never heard of this before. Certainly on a PC, I have experienced nothing like this. AntConc is also used on the Lancaster Univ. MOOC with thousands of users. Nobody has reported such an issue. What files are you trying to view in terms of number of words? Also, what language/encoding are your files in?

Laurence.

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[Kate Ferreira]

Thanks, Laurence. They are text files (.txt) of English newspaper text organised by week. There are 7000-10000 words per file. 

Some of my peers have used the same files before for their research with no problems...

Kate

[Laurence Anthony]

Just back from a series of talks in Europe. 

So, what encoding are your files in? Perhaps resave one in the AntConc default encoding of UTF-8 and see if that resolves the issue. 

Laurence.

[Nazan Avci]

Hi Kate and Laurence 

I have the same problem. My corpus contains text files (txt) of Turkish newspapers.They are encoded in UTF-8. It is a relatively small corpus, approximately 100 thousand words. Antconc crashes a lot, most in file view. When I want to have a look at file view by clicking a word in concordance view, Antconc freezes most of the time. 

I don't know if you already solved this problem or not, I wanted to inform you. It would be great if you have any suggestion to deal with it.

[Laurence Anthony]

Hi,

This sounds very much like an encoding problem. Are you sure your files are really encoded in UTF-8? How did you check the encodings? If you load one or two files as your corpus and then view one of them, does AntConc crash? If so, can you send me that one file that is causing the crash, I can look at it and see the problem is.

Laurence.

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[JFlorian]

I'm not a tech person, but I wonder what else is running in the background at start up on your machine?  Might it help system resources to set some programs to not run at start up (which means setting a Selective Start-up -- think it's in a tab under Run > msconfig)?   That is usually my problem when programs totally freeze.

Judy

[Nazan Avci]

Thanks for the replies. It works well now. Before I saved many texts in one file, I changed it, I saved each text in a separate file. I am not sure if that was the cause of the problem or not. But it works quite well now.  Regarding encoding, I built my own corpus. I did encoding while saving the file. I am quite sure that they are encoded in UTF-8. I would like to check; however I couldn't figure out how to do it on Mac OSX. 

I want to use ProtAnt as well, in ProtAnt Turkish characters (ö,ç,ü,ğ,ı,ş) don't display. I tried adding the Turkish characters to the token def box in the program, it didn't help. I am getting more worried about the encoding I did, so I send you one file if you want to look at it. 

I would like to ask one more thing about ProtAnt. My corpus includes newspaper articles so that there are many small articles that have a hundred words, even less in some cases, there are many big ones with a thousand words or more. When I try to choose prototypical one among them by using ProtAnt. Small ones appear to be more prototypical than big ones (I take the ranking by norm key types into consideration). However when I have a look at all articles in the analysis, I feel like this might not be the case. I got the impression that the difference between file sizes might affect the results. I am not sure whether my corpus is suitable for this analysis in ProtAnt. What do you think about it?

Thanks

Nazan

[Laurence Anthony]

Hi,

Sorry for the late response. The file you sent is encoded in UTF-8. On Mac, the easiest way to check the encoding is to open the file in a good text editor (e.g Text Wrangler), which will show the encoding. EncodeAnt should work on Mac, once I get time to compile it.

As for ProtAnt, you should find that the latest version works fine with Turkish characters if you are using the Windows version. However, there seems to be a problem with the Mac version not accepting Unicode character classes (including the Turkish characters). Can you check to see if it works OK on a nearby Windows computer and let me know?

The length of files should not matter in ProtAnt as the results can be calculated using normalized data. However, I have heard reports that shorter files tend to get ranked higher. But, this is something that needs to be properly tested. I'll be looking into this as I prepare a new paper on ProtAnt this year.

I hope that helps.

Laurence.

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[Nazan Avci]

Hi Laurence,

Thanks for your reply. I tried ProtAnt Windows 64 bit 1.0.1 and Windows 1.0.1 versions, Turkish characters don't display in these versions too. In that case, I think I won't be able to use it. Looking forward to your new paper on ProtAnt.

Thanks

Nazan

[Laurence Anthony]

Hi,

Did you try replacing the token definition with \p{L}

ProtAnt on Windows definitely works with Turkish characters (and also characters of all other languages). See the ProtAnt 1.0.1 help guide list of changes for further information.

I hope that helps.

Laurence.

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[Nazan Avci]

I replaced the token definition with \p{L}, it works very well now :)

Thank you very much

Nazan

[Laurence Anthony]

Excellent. I now just need to update the Mac version.

Laurence.