search for lemmas in Japanese

[Eugenia Diegoli]

Hello, 

thank you very much for making AntConc available, I've been using it for a while now and really like it! 

I have a Japanese corpus tagged with TagAnt (with the option simple_word_pos_headword_indexer). I want to look for the collocates of the verb okoru 起こる. I tried to use the wild card * (起こ*, 起こ*_V*), but then can't find a way to distinguish between okoru 起こる and okosu 起こす. Do you have any advice on this?

Thank you very much for your support, I really appreciate it. 

All the best, 

Eugenia

[Laurence Anthony]

Hi,

>  I want to look for the collocates of the verb okoru 起こる

For this task, you don't need to use wildcards in the search. Just search for "起こる" directly in the Collocates tool.

I hope this helps.

Laurence.

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[Eugenia Diegoli]

Hi Laurence, 

thank you very much for your prompt reply.

If I look for 起こる in the collocate tools, or in the concordancer, it gives me back only instances of the verb as it is (in the shushikei or renyokei), without including inflected forms (e.g.　起こります、起こってetc.). I attach a screenshot of the concordance query. 

I'm sure I'm doing something wrong but can't figure out what.

Eugenia

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[Laurence Anthony]

Hi,

So, it seems that you want to search for  起こる as a lemma headword. In TagAnt, choose the word+pos_tag+lemma option when you tag your data. You should get something like the following:

何_代名詞_何 が_助詞-格助詞_が 起こり_動詞-一般_起こる ます_助動詞_ます ？_補助記号-句点_?

Then, after you load that into AntConc, you can search for *_*_起こる to get what you want.

I hope that helps.

Laurence.

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[Eugenia Diegoli]

Hi Laurence, 

thank you very much for your reply.

I tagged my corpus with the word+pos_tag+lemma option but when I try to upload it onto AntConc something goes wrong. I tried both with the simple_word_indexer and the simple_word_pos_headword_indexer options. The only other option available seems to be the bibertag. What am I missing?

Thank you and sorry for taking up so much of your time. 

Eugenia

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[Laurence Anthony]

Hi,

> when I try to upload it onto AntConc something goes wrong

What goes wrong? Can you provide details?

Laurence.

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[Eugenia Diegoli]

This is the description of the corpus created with the tagged data and selecting the simple-word-pos-headword-indexer option.  The token count is way too high.

and these are the items it reads as words.

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[Laurence Anthony]

Hi,

None of the types are displaying correctly. Are you sure you are using UTF-8 encoded files? Perhaps you can send me one tagged file so I can check.

Laurence.

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[Eugenia Diegoli]

Hi Laurence, 

this is an excerpt from the tagged file. 

遠_接頭辞_遠 距離_名詞-普通名詞-一般_距離 恋愛_名詞-普通名詞-サ変可能_恋愛 2_名詞-数詞_2 年_名詞-普通名詞-助数詞可能_年 目_接尾辞-名詞的-一般_目 です_助動詞_です 。_補助記号-句点_。 　_SPACE_　 昨日_名詞-普通名詞-副詞可能_昨日 彼_代名詞_彼 から_助詞-格助詞_から 写メ_名詞-普通名詞-一般_写メ が_助詞-格助詞_が 送ら_動詞-一般_送る れ_助動詞_れる て_助詞-接続助詞_て 来_動詞-非自立可能_来る まし_助動詞_ます た_助動詞_た 。_補助記号-句点_。 　_SPACE_　 明らか_形状詞-一般_明らか に_助動詞_だ 誰_代名詞_誰 か_助詞-副助詞_か に_助詞-格助詞_に 撮っ_動詞-一般_撮る て_助詞-接続助詞_て もらっ_動詞-非自立可能_もらう て_助詞-接続助詞_て いる_動詞-非自立可能_いる 、_補助記号-読点_、 自宅_名詞-普通名詞-一般_自宅 で_助詞-格助詞_で は_助詞-係助詞_は ない_形容詞-非自立可能_ない 写メ_名詞-普通名詞-一般_写メ と_助詞-格助詞_と 思わ_動詞-一般_思う れる_助動詞_れる もの_名詞-普通名詞-サ変可能_もの です_助動詞_です 。_補助記号-句点_。

Hope it helps. 

Eugenia

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[Laurence Anthony]

Hi,

Copying the contents of a file into email will not serve as a proper test. I need the actual file.

Laurence.

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[Eugenia Diegoli]

Apologies. Here it is.

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[Laurence Anthony]

You're trying to load a rich text file (.rtf). You need to use a text file, or docx, or pdf. 

TagAnt doesn't output rtf files, so I'm not sure what you did to generate this.

Laurence.

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[Eugenia Diegoli]

I see, thank you very much!!

All the best, 

Eugenia

2024年5月24日(金) 18:05 Laurence Anthony <antho...@gmail.com>:

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[Laurence Anthony]

Have you managed to resolve the issue?

Laurence.

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[Eugenia Diegoli]

I’ll try tomorrow and keep you posted :) 

2024年5月24日(金) 18:15 Laurence Anthony <antho...@gmail.com>:

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[Laurence Anthony]

Hi again,

 I saved your rtf file as text and generated the following results:

So, AntConc looks to be working fine!

I hope that helps.

Laurence.

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[Eugenia Diegoli]

Dear Laurence,

apologies for the slow reply. I have just updated my files on AntConc and it works perfectly fine. Thank you very much for your help!

All the best, 

Eugenia

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[Eugenia Diegoli]

Hi Laurence, 

I'm really sorry to bother you again. Hopefully this time I won't take too much of your time. 

I'm using AntConc version 4.2.4 but don't seem to be able to select the logDice measure for collocational analysis (see screenshot).

According to the manual it should be there. What am I missing?

Thank you as always for your help. 

Eugenia

[Laurence Anthony]

Hi,

LogDice is one of the effect size measures that you can use. You can select it in the tool settings.

Laurence

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[Eugenia Diegoli]

Awesome thank you!

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