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Parthasarathi Mukhopadhyay

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Nov 2, 2022, 10:13:36 AM11/2/22
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Dear team@Annif

Has anyone here attempted using the faceted version of LCSH - FAST as vocabulary in Annif?

Today, I was trying to use it by downloading NT from here - https://researchworks.oclc.org/researchdata/fast/FASTTopical.nt.zip

Annif loadvoc never complained about anything during the vocabulary loading but the subject file under vocab is showing 0 byte.

Then I tried to skosify it with options -label "FAST" --eliminate-redundancy but the result is the same.

I'm using Annif version 0.57 in Ubuntu 22.04 (pip install).

Thanks 


Parthasarathi Mukhopadhyay

Professor, Department of Library and Information Science,

University of Kalyani, Kalyani - 741 235 (WB), India

Osma Suominen

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Nov 3, 2022, 4:28:58 AM11/3/22
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Hi Parthasarathi,

I haven't used FAST with Annif, but somebody else here on the list may
well have some experiences to share.

I took a quick glance at the NT file of FAST. One immediately obvious
issue is that the labels seem to be missing language tags. For example,
the fifth line in the file is this:

<http://id.worldcat.org/fast/799409>
<http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core#prefLabel> "African American
teenagers--Education" .

The label is obviously in English, but there is no @en language tag.

There are at least two things you can do here.

1. Upgrade to Annif 0.59. This version of Annif has some changes in the
vocabulary-related code, which allow the use of vocabularies without
language tags (even though that is bad practice).

2. Use Skosify with the default language option to assign "en" language
tags to all the labels in FAST.

Either of these will do, but of course I recommend the first option.

-Osma


Parthasarathi Mukhopadhyay kirjoitti 2.11.2022 klo 16.13:
> Dear team@Annif
>
> Has anyone here attempted using the faceted version of LCSH - FAST as
> vocabulary in Annif?
>
> Today, I was trying to use it by downloading NT from here -
> https://researchworks.oclc.org/researchdata/fast/FASTTopical.nt.zip
> <https://researchworks.oclc.org/researchdata/fast/FASTTopical.nt.zip>
>
> Annif loadvoc never complained about anything during the vocabulary
> loading but the subject file under vocab is showing 0 byte.
>
> Then I tried to skosify it with options -label "FAST"
> --eliminate-redundancy but the result is the same.
>
> I'm using Annif version 0.57 in Ubuntu 22.04 (pip install).
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
> Parthasarathi Mukhopadhyay
>
> Professor, Department of Library and Information Science,
>
> University of Kalyani, Kalyani - 741 235 (WB), India
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Parthasarathi Mukhopadhyay

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Nov 9, 2022, 11:30:31 PM11/9/22
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Hello Osma

Thanks for showing the right path as usual.

Sorry for being late in reporting the result. Actually I was getting a strange result and thought that I should report it after the second round of attempt.
Here it goes -

1. Upgraded Annif from 0.57 to 0.59 (the process was extremely smooth)

2. Skosify the NT file of FAST with language label - (--eliminate-redundancy --default-language=en --label="http://id.worldcat.org/fast/")

3. This time subjects.csv was created by Annif

The strange things in result

1. Not a single row has FAST subject heading
2. All are from AGROVOC, GND and LC authorities

For example, it has created rows like


from TTL block

<http://aims.fao.org/aos/agrovoc/c_15570> a skos:Concept ;
    rdfs:label "tofu"@en ;
    skos:inScheme <http://id.worldcat.org/fast/ontology/1.0/#facet-Topical> ;
    skos:related <http://id.worldcat.org/fast/1152082> ;
    skos:relatedMatch <http://id.worldcat.org/fast/1152082> ;
    skos:topConceptOf <http://id.worldcat.org/fast/ontology/1.0/#facet-Topical> .

But failed to create rows in subjects.csv from the FAST TTL block like -

<http://id.worldcat.org/fast/1152085> a ns1:Intangible ;
    dct:identifier "1152085" ;
    ns1:name "Tofu industry" ;
    ns1:sameAs <http://id.loc.gov/authorities/subjects/sh85135794> ;
    skos:broader <http://id.worldcat.org/fast/1038670> ;
    skos:inScheme <http://id.worldcat.org/fast/ontology/1.0/#facet-Topical>,
        <http://id.worldcat.org/fast/ontology/1.0/#fast> ;
    skos:prefLabel "Tofu industry"@en .

I was trying FAST to see whether the faceted vocabulary has any advantages over the compound/complex headings of LCSH.

Best regards



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Osma Suominen

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Hello Parthasarathi,

it appears that the FAST concepts in that file do not have skos:Concept
set as their type. Instead they have been given the type
schema:Intangible. But the same file also contains several other
vocabularies, including AGROVOC, GND and others, and these do have
skos:Concept as their type. Annif only looks for entities with the
skos:Concept type, so in this case it will ignore the FAST concepts but
instead use the concepts from other vocabularies. This is a bit
unfortunate and I don't really understand the design choices in this
FAST file.

However, here is a quick and dirty Linux command line recipe for
filtering out the non-FAST concepts and changing the type of FAST
concepts into skos:Concept:

grep '/fast/' FASTTopical.nt|sed -e
's|http://schema.org/Intangible|http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core#Concept|'
>FAST-SKOS.nt

The resulting file FAST-SKOS.nt should contain only FAST concepts with
the right concept type. I don't think you need to use Skosify on it, but
it should do no harm either.

I didn't test this with Annif but I expect it should work, or at least
take you a step closer to what you want.

-Osma


Parthasarathi Mukhopadhyay kirjoitti 10.11.2022 klo 6.30:
> Hello Osma
>
> Thanks for showing the right path as usual.
>
> Sorry for being late in reporting the result. Actually I was getting a
> strange result and thought that I should report it after the second
> round of attempt.
> Here it goes -
>
> 1. Upgraded Annif from 0.57 to 0.59 (the process was extremely smooth)
>
> 2. Skosify the NT file of FAST with language label -
> (--eliminate-redundancy --default-language=en
> --label="http://id.worldcat.org/fast/ <http://id.worldcat.org/fast/>")
> <http://id.worldcat.org/fast/799409>>
> <http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core#prefLabel
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Parthasarathi Mukhopadhyay

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Hello Osma

Your solution worked like a charm.

Thanks a lot.

We are now getting 437945 rows in the subjects.csv file with entries like -

I've observed that blocks are changing after the command in this way:

Earlier

<http://id.worldcat.org/fast/1000948> a ns1:Intangible ;

dct:identifier "1000948" ;

ns1:name "Lizard watching",

"Viewing lizards",

"Watching lizards" ;

ns1:sameAs <http://id.loc.gov/authorities/subjects/sh94007499> ;

skos:altLabel "Viewing lizards"@en,

"Watching lizards"@en ;

skos:broader <http://id.worldcat.org/fast/1175441> ;

skos:inScheme <http://id.worldcat.org/fast/ontology/1.0/#facet-Topical>,

<http://id.worldcat.org/fast/ontology/1.0/#fast> ;

skos:prefLabel "Lizard watching"@en .

Now

<http://id.worldcat.org/fast/1000948> a skos:Concept ;

dct:identifier "1000948" ;

ns1:name "Lizard watching",

"Viewing lizards",

"Watching lizards" ;

ns1:sameAs <http://id.loc.gov/authorities/subjects/sh94007499> ;

skos:altLabel "Viewing lizards"@en,

"Watching lizards"@en ;

skos:broader <http://id.worldcat.org/fast/1175441> ;

skos:inScheme <http://id.worldcat.org/fast/ontology/1.0/#facet-Topical>,

<http://id.worldcat.org/fast/ontology/1.0/#fast> ;

skos:prefLabel "Lizard watching"@en .

Plz explain what this magic command is doing.

Another issue I forgot to mention earlier - after upgrading to 0.59, annif commands were producing a warning like - oneDNN custom operations are on. You may see slightly different numerical results due to floating-point round-off errors from different computation orders. To turn them off, set the environment variable `TF_ENABLE_ONEDNN_OPTS=0`.

Issuing - export TF_ENABLE_ONEDNN_OPTS=0 stopped that warning. Hopefully it's okay with the process.

Thanks again and best regards


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Osma Suominen

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Hello Parthasarathi,

the command is a simple pipeline combining grep (used for filtering) and
sed (used to perform a search-replace operation). The input is a file in
N-Triples format, and this happens to be a format where it's quite easy
to use this kind of line-based tools.

Here's a brief explanation of grep and sed pipes:
https://www.themoderncoder.com/a-simple-introduction-to-grep-and-sed/

The grep command looks for the string '/fast/' so in practice, it will
drop all lines that represent triples from non-FAST vocabularies, as all
FAST concepts have this string in their URI.

The sed command looks for the full URI of the schema:Instance type and
replaces it with the full URI of the skos:Concept type.

The result is a file, still in N-Triples format, which contains only
FAST concepts (thanks to the grep) and whose types have been changed
from schema:Instance to skos:Concept (thanks to the sed).

Regarding the oneDNN warning, I think that should be harmless. It most
likely comes from TensorFlow.

-Osma

Parthasarathi Mukhopadhyay kirjoitti 10.11.2022 klo 15.36:
> Hello Osma
>
> Your solution worked like a charm.
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
> We are now getting 437945 rows in the subjects.csv file with entries like -
>
> http://id.worldcat.org/fast/1000320 <http://id.worldcat.org/fast/1000320>
>
>
>
> Lithopone
>
>
> I've observed that blocks are changing after the command in this way:
>
> *Earlier*
>
> <http://id.worldcat.org/fast/1000948
> <http://id.worldcat.org/fast/1000948>> a ns1:Intangible ;
>
> dct:identifier "1000948" ;
>
> ns1:name "Lizard watching",
>
> "Viewing lizards",
>
> "Watching lizards" ;
>
> ns1:sameAs <http://id.loc.gov/authorities/subjects/sh94007499
> <http://id.loc.gov/authorities/subjects/sh94007499>> ;
>
> skos:altLabel "Viewing lizards"@en,
>
> "Watching lizards"@en ;
>
> skos:broader <http://id.worldcat.org/fast/1175441
> <http://id.worldcat.org/fast/1175441>> ;
>
> skos:inScheme <http://id.worldcat.org/fast/ontology/1.0/#facet-Topical
> skos:prefLabel "Lizard watching"@en .
> *
> *
> *Now*
> *
> *
> **<http://id.worldcat.org/fast/1000948
> <http://id.worldcat.org/fast/1000948>> a skos:Concept ;
>
> dct:identifier "1000948" ;
>
> ns1:name "Lizard watching",
>
> "Viewing lizards",
>
> "Watching lizards" ;
>
> ns1:sameAs <http://id.loc.gov/authorities/subjects/sh94007499
> <http://id.loc.gov/authorities/subjects/sh94007499>> ;
>
> skos:altLabel "Viewing lizards"@en,
>
> "Watching lizards"@en ;
>
> skos:broader <http://id.worldcat.org/fast/1175441
> <http://id.worldcat.org/fast/1175441>> ;
>
> skos:inScheme <http://id.worldcat.org/fast/ontology/1.0/#facet-Topical
> skos:prefLabel "Lizard watching"@en .
>
> Plz explain what this magic command is doing.
>
> Another issue I forgot to mention earlier - after upgrading to 0.59,
> annif commands were producing a warning like - /oneDNN custom operations
> are on. You may see slightly different numerical results due to
> floating-point round-off errors from different computation orders. To
> turn them off, set the environment variable `TF_ENABLE_ONEDNN_OPTS=0`./
> /
> /
> Issuing - export TF_ENABLE_ONEDNN_OPTS=0 stopped that warning. Hopefully
> it's okay with the process.
>
> Thanks again and best regards
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 4:24 PM Osma Suominen <osma.s...@helsinki.fi
> <mailto:osma.s...@helsinki.fi>> wrote:
>
> Hello Parthasarathi,
>
> it appears that the FAST concepts in that file do not have skos:Concept
> set as their type. Instead they have been given the type
> schema:Intangible. But the same file also contains several other
> vocabularies, including AGROVOC, GND and others, and these do have
> skos:Concept as their type. Annif only looks for entities with the
> skos:Concept type, so in this case it will ignore the FAST concepts but
> instead use the concepts from other vocabularies. This is a bit
> unfortunate and I don't really understand the design choices in this
> FAST file.
>
> However, here is a quick and dirty Linux command line recipe for
> filtering out the non-FAST concepts and changing the type of FAST
> concepts into skos:Concept:
>
> grep '/fast/' FASTTopical.nt|sed -e
> 's|http://schema.org/Intangible|http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core#Concept| <http://schema.org/Intangible%7Chttp://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core#Concept%7C>'
>  >FAST-SKOS.nt
>
> The resulting file FAST-SKOS.nt should contain only FAST concepts with
> the right concept type. I don't think you need to use Skosify on it,
> but
> it should do no harm either.
>
> I didn't test this with Annif but I expect it should work, or at least
> take you a step closer to what you want.
>
> -Osma
>
>
> Parthasarathi Mukhopadhyay kirjoitti 10.11.2022 klo 6.30:
> > Hello Osma
> >
> > Thanks for showing the right path as usual.
> >
> > Sorry for being late in reporting the result. Actually I was
> getting a
> > strange result and thought that I should report it after the second
> > round of attempt.
> > Here it goes -
> >
> > 1. Upgraded Annif from 0.57 to 0.59 (the process was extremely
> smooth)
> >
> > 2. Skosify the NT file of FAST with language label -
> > (--eliminate-redundancy --default-language=en
> > --label="http://id.worldcat.org/fast/
> <http://id.worldcat.org/fast/> <http://id.worldcat.org/fast/
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