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You're one of my favorite Swell Guys, John.
fish

John S. McEnery <bigjohn...@email.msn.com> wrote in message
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Some of you are aware of my great respect for the writings of Thomas
ÁKempis...particularly with reference to my personal prayer life...the quote
below, is among many of his which counsel privacy in one's prayer life for a
variety of reasons.

"Those devotions which belong not to the community, are not to be exposed to
public view; for private devotions are practiced more safely in secret."

I am often discomforted with outspoken prayer which seems to be disconnected
from the surrounding contexts....tho I am aware that at is the norm in some
religious groups.

My apologies to anyone who might have been offended by my reaction to
Steve"s statements as they caught me completely off guard and are, as I said
the product of a context with which I am both unfamiliar and not at ease.

John
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Jenn

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Why, fish?


fish wrote in message ...

fish

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Because he makes amends when he sees his own wrongdoings, instead of
justifying them. I respect that immensely. Also I hear he's a pretty good
cook. Also he has been kind to me when I have needed kindness. I like that
consolation ministry he is involved in too. That's cool. And I don't know
anyone his age who is as sharp and smart as he is, still learning and
growing....And he adores his wife, that's cool.

Shall I go on? I could you know.

fish

Jenn <Proph...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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fish

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Jenn is someone I like to read because she really tries to get her pov
across. She is a dedicated mom and wants the best for her children. She
seems to have come through some hard times in her marriage too. Even though
she and I have had some rough times, she is willing to start afresh and try
again. She is someone I would want on my side if I was being abused or
harmed in some way.

fish

Jenn <Proph...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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What about other people? See, I have a hard time when people say things
like "so and so is my favorite" in group settings. It reminds me of the
"teachers pet" thing. If you're not the "teachers pet" then you don't get
that sort of special treatment... in other words,,, if you're not the
"favorite", it, more or less tells other people they are obviously not as
good of a person as your "favorite".

Jenn
John S. McEnery wrote in message
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Albert has shown by his contributions here and on the Buddies NG that he
is a friendly, intelligent compassionate, individual who tries to live his
religious and life vocation.
I respect this and I find him to be good company....a person of honesty,
understanding and possessed of a playful sense of humor.
In other words he has proven to be a positive and more than welcome
contributor to the NG and I am honored to have made his acquaintance.
John
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Jenn <Proph...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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Why does it mean a great deal to you for Albert to think you are one
of his favorite people?

Jenn
John S. McEnery wrote in message ...
Thank you, Albert...that means a great deal.
John
Albert Butkus <abu...@iex.net> wrote in message
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... John, you're one of my favorite people ...


Jenn

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Fish,

When you say someone is a favorite in a group setting, you're also saying
that other people in that group are not as valued.

Jenn

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fish

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Jenn,
I think everyone here is just Cool Beans. I just finished writing about what
I really like about you. But I forgot the part where you dance. That
dancing thing is wonderful too.

fish

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kitty

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I'll second that, fish. i also love it when he gets in a punny mood. ;)
and he shares gorgeous poetry. and also a lot of thought-provoking quotes.

i like him too.

"fish" <fish...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Because he makes amends when he sees his own wrongdoings, instead of
> justifying them. I respect that immensely. Also I hear he's a pretty
good
> cook. Also he has been kind to me when I have needed kindness. I like
that
> consolation ministry he is involved in too. That's cool. And I don't
know
> anyone his age who is as sharp and smart as he is, still learning and
> growing....And he adores his wife, that's cool.
>
> Shall I go on? I could you know.
>
> fish
>

> Jenn <Proph...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:HgVdH2B...@tweedledum.annex.com...
> > Why, fish?


> >
> >
> > fish wrote in message ...

> > >You're one of my favorite Swell Guys, John.
> > >fish
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Karyn...@msn.com

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You forgot about all the cool Hawaiian shirts he has.

--
Karyn

Albert Butkus

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... I too look forward to reading Jenn's posts ...

fish wrote:

> Jenn is someone I like to read because she really tries to get her pov
> across. She is a dedicated mom and wants the best for her children. She
> seems to have come through some hard times in her marriage too. Even though
> she and I have had some rough times, she is willing to start afresh and try
> again. She is someone I would want on my side if I was being abused or
> harmed in some way.
>

> fish
>
> Jenn <Proph...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:SxCcsCC...@tweedledum.annex.com...
> What about other people? See, I have a hard time when people say things
> like "so and so is my favorite" in group settings. It reminds me of the
> "teachers pet" thing. If you're not the "teachers pet" then you don't get
> that sort of special treatment... in other words,,, if you're not the
> "favorite", it, more or less tells other people they are obviously not as
> good of a person as your "favorite".
>
> Jenn
> John S. McEnery wrote in message
> <836Fk7B...@tweedledum.annex.com>...
> Albert has shown by his contributions here and on the Buddies NG that he
> is a friendly, intelligent compassionate, individual who tries to live his
> religious and life vocation.
> I respect this and I find him to be good company....a person of honesty,
> understanding and possessed of a playful sense of humor.
> In other words he has proven to be a positive and more than welcome
> contributor to the NG and I am honored to have made his acquaintance.
> John
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>

> Jenn <Proph...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:mxSI61B...@tweedledum.annex.com...
>
> Why does it mean a great deal to you for Albert to think you are one
> of his favorite people?
>
> Jenn
> John S. McEnery wrote in message ...
> Thank you, Albert...that means a great deal.
> John
> Albert Butkus <abu...@iex.net> wrote in message
> news:398E079A...@iex.net...

> ... John, you're one of my favorite people ...


Trish D.

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Jenn,
I don't agree. To say someone is one of my favorites (and John is one of
mine..of course I am one my favorites too, so perhaps my judgement is
questionable <vbg>) is not at all to say that the rest of the group are
lessor in value. The point is ... be happy for the other guy...you know the
glass is half full. You have the notion of the "clique" so firmly
entrenched in your mind...this isn't high school...we are all special from
the get go because God says so...but it is nice to brighten someone's day
with an honest remark of love and appreciation...it's like bestowing a two
way smile....they feel it and you feel it and the brightness of it can
radiate for days.
Just my .02,
Trish D.

Jenn <Proph...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> Fish,
>
> When you say someone is a favorite in a group setting, you're also saying
> that other people in that group are not as valued.
>
> Jenn
>

> fish wrote in message ...

Jenn

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Trish,

You may not understand because you have people tell you that you are a
favorite, too. Favorites have always existed, and it doesn't have to be a
high school situation, either. There have been favorites on this group from
the beginning, and also a core clique here. It's always nice to get a
compliment that you are someone's favorite when EVERYONE is privy to hearing
the compliment. It makes other people feel like they are less of a person
whether or not a person means to communicate that or not. One can bestow a
smile in private just as well as they can in public. The difference is that
the private compliment doesn't lend itself to becoming puffed up, but the
public compliment does lend itself to becoming puffed up.

Jenn


Trish D. wrote in message <52SdOVK...@tweedledum.annex.com>...

Trish D.

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Jenn,
I understand what you are saying but I am merely asking you to look at it
a different way. A public compliment or a "favorite" comment may make you
feel less valued but IMO, it shouldn't and it doesn't effect everyone the
same way as you. Your value doesn't come from other people it comes from
God. I see compliments as encouragement and as you can see in this thread
if I need encouragement I just plain ask for it <s>. If someone loves me I
want to hear about it....that is how I am. The problem with private
compliments and thoughts is that especially between a man and a women
things can get a bit convoluted. Out in the open it should be safe to say
"Hey I like you" and yes, it could cause someone to get puffed up but again
it shouldn't. I do not subscribe to the notion that there is some "in"
group around here. I do think there is a higher percentage of "liberal"
thought but in this group I am generally treated with respect...my guess is
because I respect others ...it wasn't always so.
Trish D.


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fish

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Oh, Trish, You know I think you are the DEAL!
You are elegant and frank and I just adore you.

fish

Trish D. <trish...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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You know if any of you feel the need to tell me how wonderful I am ...I am
willing to listen <vbg>.

Trish D.

John S. McEnery <bigjohn...@email.msn.com> wrote in message

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Albert has shown by his contributions here and on the Buddies NG that he
is a friendly, intelligent compassionate, individual who tries to live his
religious and life vocation.
I respect this and I find him to be good company....a person of honesty,
understanding and possessed of a playful sense of humor.
In other words he has proven to be a positive and more than welcome
contributor to the NG and I am honored to have made his acquaintance.
John
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Jenn <Proph...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

fish

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Not me. I love to give complements and will whenever I see the opportunity.

fish

Jenn <Proph...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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fish,

I appreciate the compliments, but I didn't say what I did about "favorites"
in order to "fish" for a compliment, so to speak. <s> I really feel that
having favorites in a group setting somehow puts up walls between people.

Jenn


fish wrote in message <69o3ZJC...@tweedledum.annex.com>...


>Jenn,
>I think everyone here is just Cool Beans. I just finished writing about
what
>I really like about you. But I forgot the part where you dance. That
>dancing thing is wonderful too.
>
>fish
>

>Jenn <Proph...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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>> Fish,
>>
>> When you say someone is a favorite in a group setting, you're also saying
>> that other people in that group are not as valued.
>>
>> Jenn
>>

fish

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I hope to be extravagant with compliments to everyone here. I hope our
ecumenical effort will draw us all closer and closer, more and more of us
included. Watch this space for even more outlandish compliments!!!

fish
"YOUR name on this marquee!!!"

Jenn <Proph...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

fish

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Personal attack. cut it out.

fish
Janitor

Steven N Colling <scol...@harborside.com> wrote in message
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You and Trish are very much alike, both are like the great colossus of
duckopopolis, helmet down tight against the head, feet firmly entrenched in
stone, unvering, ready for battle, protecting the city from all invaders.

--
In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, that which is will be no more, and
that which is not will be.


"John S. McEnery" <bigjohn...@email.msn.com> wrote in message

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Why is that to be expected.....I can understand if you were to say that
about me.......but Trish ?????
John
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Steven N Colling <scol...@harborside.com> wrote in message
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again, you judge me wrong, but that is to be expected.

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In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, that which is will be no more,
and that which is not will be.


"Trish D." <trish...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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Steven,
You take it to extremes...that is unfortunate. I presume you never
compliment your wife or girlfriend or sister or anyone because that would be
preferring one of God's creatures over another, right? We are not to prefer
the rich over the poor, we are not to be a respecter of persons. We are to
encourage and love. Saying someone is one of your favorites is really just
saying you enjoy reading what that person has posted. You don't enjoy
everyone's posts the same now do you?

Trish D.


Steven N Colling <scol...@harborside.com> wrote in message
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The bible expressly says not to show favoritism, AKA have favorites!

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In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, that which is will be no
more, and that which is not will be.


"Trish D." <trish...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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fish

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Personal attack.
Cut it out.

fish
Janitor

Steven N Colling <scol...@harborside.com> wrote in message

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You (John S) and Trish are very much alike, both are like the great colossus


of duckopopolis, helmet down tight against the head, feet firmly entrenched
in stone, unvering, ready for battle, protecting the city from all invaders.

--
In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, that which is will be no more, and
that which is not will be.

"Trish D." <trish...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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Steven,
Why is that to be expected?
Trish d.

Steven N Colling

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actually that was a compliment, you were looking for an attack and found
one.

--
In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, that which is will be no more, and
that which is not will be.

"fish" <fish...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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Steven N Colling

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pls. see comment to your other chastisement.

--
In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, that which is will be no more, and
that which is not will be.
"fish" <fish...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Steven N Colling

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Fish, isn't it funny, you see the exchanges that John and I have been
having, and then without asking what I meant you assumed that what I said
was an attack. That's ok, but just be sure to counsel all combatants as to
do otherwise would indeed show your favoritism.

--
In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, that which is will be no more, and
that which is not will be.

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Jenn

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So many compliments on this group sound so empty...

Jenn

fish wrote in message ...

>Not me. I love to give complements and will whenever I see the opportunity.
>
>fish
>

>Jenn <Proph...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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>fish,
>
>I appreciate the compliments, but I didn't say what I did about "favorites"
>in order to "fish" for a compliment, so to speak. <s> I really feel that
>having favorites in a group setting somehow puts up walls between people.
>
>Jenn
>
>
>fish wrote in message <69o3ZJC...@tweedledum.annex.com>...
>>Jenn,
>>I think everyone here is just Cool Beans. I just finished writing about
>what
>>I really like about you. But I forgot the part where you dance. That
>>dancing thing is wonderful too.
>>
>>fish
>>

>>Jenn <Proph...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:FQMxAEC...@tweedledum.annex.com...
>>> Fish,
>>>
>>> When you say someone is a favorite in a group setting, you're also
saying
>>> that other people in that group are not as valued.
>>>
>>> Jenn
>>>

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