Final Fantasy VII: The Sacrifice Of Cloud Movie In Italian Dubbed Download
Vinnie Breidenthal
Update: Here at Push Square, we're more than happy to admit when we got something wrong. This is one of those rare occasions. It has become clear that Cloud was instead trying to spur the old man on to do something with his life, so let's discuss how I, a newcomer to the game, didn't pick up on that. Does Final Fantasy VII Remake do a good enough job of developing Cloud Strife throughout the experience to the point where motivations such as this become obvious? Or am I not alone in this, and you too failed to pick up on the subtext? Share your thoughts in the comments below.
Original article: While I wouldn't consider myself nostalgic for Final Fantasy VII in the slightest, I did at least manage to leave Midgar when I first gave the Square Enix classic a shot upon its PlayStation 4 rerelease. Final Fantasy VII Remake won't take me that far, with this first instalment signing off as the team plans to leave the Mako-infested city. However, at the grand age of 25, I'd like to consider this reimagining to be my first proper taste of the Japanese franchise's seventh entry. The character of Cloud Strife hasn't eluded me quite as much as the 1997 masterpiece though. The selfish ex-solider only ever takes on a job in exchange for money, but nothing could prepare me for his actions during one certain side quest.
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Taking place in chapter eight, Paying Respects is the optional task I'm talking about. An elderly gentleman has asked Cloud and Aerith to clear out a nearby graveyard of monsters so that someone can visit his wife's grave on the anniversary of her death. It's not a problem whatsoever as the duo speeds over to the site and quickly slaughters the beasts with ease before paying their respects to the lady in question. It's when Cloud returns to the old man to inform him that the job has been completed that things take a turn for the worse, however.
Upon breaking the good news and receiving payment, Cloud learns that the widower was prepared to die trying to see his wife's burial site one more time despite his bad back and legs. Luckily, the ex-solider in question came along at just the right time. In response to that, Cloud tells the ageing fellow to return the graveyard key to the seller we purchased it off. That's not going to happen, however, due to the gentleman's tiring legs, so Cloud says that he'll do it in in exchange for 5000 Gil. For those who haven't played Final Fantasy VII Remake just yet, that's quite a lot of money.
I was truly taken aback by this retort. Not only can Cloud quite clearly not read the room, but his request for cash also doesn't make any sense in the first place. Why does the graveyard key need to be returned? Didn't we buy it fair and square with Moogle Medals? It belongs to us now, but if anything, it should be given to the old man anyway so that he can visit his wife's grave as and when he feels up to it.
Look, I get it. As I've already mentioned, Cloud will only ever do anything for someone else if there's some sort of reward for him at the end of it. He does actually receive a new piece of equipment from the quest giver, but to then go on and demand more money in exchange for doing something as simple as returning a key is borderline insulting. It also feels like it flies in the face of any character development he received up to that point.
I could understand if this side quest took place back in chapter three when Cloud was attempting to build up his reputation and accrue some of the money that Tifa and Barret had promised him. However, in the time since then, Mr Strife has proved that he can open up to the likes of Jessie, Tifa, and Aerith. He's a very tough nut to crack, but there is something in that egotistical skull of his.
As such, this interaction felt supremely out of place. There is absolutely a time and place to barter for extra payment, but this most certainly was not one of them. You've just made an old man's day by ensuring his wife isn't forgotten about on the day of her death so many years later -- isn't that enough Cloud? To be clear, I've thoroughly enjoyed Final Fantasy VII Remake up to now, but the conclusion to this particular side quest doesn't sit well with me. The gentleman's friend sums it up best in the aftermath: "You're a real dick, you know that?" Yes, I most certainly do.
Liam grew up with a PlayStation controller in his hands and a love for Metal Gear Solid. Nowadays, he can be found playing the latest and greatest PS5 games as well as supporting Derby County. That last detail is his downfall.
Man you really misread this quest. He's trying to encourage the old man to be independent again. He makes the charge really high so he'll have to do it himself. He's not actually asking for that much seriously, he's trying to stop him from giving up.
@LiamCroft I agree with @Arugula that maybe it could be been made clearer - and I have seen other people miss the point of it - but it does come across clearly enough to most. I just checked the quest log in case it references that Cloud was trying to motivate the old man, and it says this:
Remember, in the same area Cloud pretends to a group of kids that he only works when paid but that he has a "special offer on finding lost friends today", or something like that, and charges them 3 gil. It's just his deadpan way of being nice while pretending not to be.
@Matroska Fair enough, your post pretty much confirms it. I think this is an issue with how Square Enix wrote the scene then, as @Kyleforrester87 said. I didn't pick up on this needling whatsoever, and I don't think I'm the only one.
@LiamCroft It might be a Japanese thing. For example, Luffy in One Piece does similar stuff. There's an arc where a princess called Vivi asks him and his crew to help her reclaim her country from a usurper named Crocodile. Someway into the arc, Luffy thinks her motivation might be flagging. He pretends to doubt her and berates her for not caring about her country or people enough. She becomes enraged and after an emotional reaction, she slaps him so hard he falls over. On the ground, he looks up at her and grins and says something like "Alright, let's go and kick Crocodile's ass!"
This whole thing of the hero acts like an assh*le to inspire someone or motivate them is done quite a lot in Japanese media so maybe that helped me see it. I think, though, that all the other stuff that shows Cloud opening up emotionally invites the player to try and reinterpret the scene beyond face value, though. Either way, it's still interesting to learn about other people's perspectives on the game.
@nessisonett Not really, Cloud softens up immensely once they leave Midgar in the original. He was awkward till the end of disc 1, but a lot of his cray-cray issues were caused by a certain lab specimen whose name starts with the letter J, Sephiroth, and his mako poisoning. He stopped being a d*ck long before the end of disc 1. Of course given the massive changes in Remake this could well pan out differently.
@nessisonett Not really. He's crossdressing in Wall Market, doing dolphin stunts to break into Junon, Chocobo racing to get out of prison etc way before that. It's shown to be an act early on with him helping Jessie in the reactor, potentially buying a flower and giving it to either Tifa or Marlene, and how Jessie and the others comment on him during the Sector 7 support pillar part. It's really only the first reactor where he's purely "It's just a job". Even right after that, he has his empathetic line on the train about how the people in the slums are "Like this train, they have no control over where they go next" or something like that.
Cloud is a dick, however in this case it was intentional to get the old man to start doing things on his own again. As stated before this is a common reoccuring theme in Japanese games and anime. I thought it was rather obvious after seeing that scene myself what the intent was with how he presented himself to the old man. If that scene was to be rewritten so that people would understand it better, I think it would be worse off and lose the effect it has now. Much like having to explain jokes to people.
As mentioned before, with the Toad King quest, he states that he is not cheap, but makes a "special discount" of 3 gil to help out the kids. That in itself is also a lesson to tell them that things are not free.
@Neolit @Nickolaidas I'm starting to think maybe some of these assets weren't designed for the PS4? I think once Square switched development in house, they started targeting a higher level, in anticipation of the PS5 being out whenever the game released and doing a cross gen launch, but that ended up not panning out so they had to downscale things? I dunno, it's just a thought I've had.
The bigger question is how is this 90GB? Not only because of the low end assets, but there aren't that many FMVs either. I thought the size was because it'd be packed with them, but I've only seen two so far in the first 14 chapters, and there's like 18 in total.
The man gave up living life and just abdicated all responsibility to others. By demanding that Cloud visit his wife's grave and requiring him to jump through hoops, it just continued that path. By virtually insulting him and demanding him to take care of matters himself, it gets him to live his life again, if just a little. Cloud is a dick, sure, but it was for a reason
I did think about the whole motivational reason behind the "deliver it yourself" comment but i wasnt too sure. It was defenately a bit of bad writing and could have been made clearer to all players with a quick "atleast hes taking responsibility and not giving up anymore" whispered the guy who called him a dick. Think that would have made his motives a tad clearer.
@Orpheus79V A lot of the space is likely due to the sheer amount of assets in this game, each area of Midgar has entirely unique assets which means that the team couldn't copy and paste and cut size corners in that respect.
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