a fundamental rule

[Ferenc]

You can only ask for the solution of a puzzle that you know the
solution of yourself. You can take the picture of a tree from a
distance, you can cut it up horizontally and vertically and see the
cross sections in slices, you can cover the surface of the tree with
geometric topologies and make an animated 3D virtual version of the
original live tree, nevertheless you cannot find out from those
representations how the tree started from a seed and has grown into a
full grown plant.
So you have analysis, chunking and dissecting the poor tree into
trunk, branches and leaves, and fruits, etc. and going on that long
long road you eventually put together the STEPS, or actions between
various objects of different properties end up to show the full cycle
of biological reproduction with trees. Clearly that process takes
place in space-time, ordering thereby the sequence of observations
into a linear progression of many components that are difficult to
observe from a single perspective, especially if the sped of such
development or evolution is high - with respect to your resolution or
granularity of perception which cannot be merged, but integrated by
discovering and identifying how the individual steps are built on each
other to lead to another stage to a point where the forces in the
environment working against such a growth will be in balance with the
forces that push the tree to expand in space-time to its maximum
potential recorded in its genes.

[Dmitriy Shabanov]

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Ferenc <genez...@googlemail.com> wrote:

You can only ask for the solution of a puzzle that you know the
solution of yourself.

No, puzzle without solution is open end/unfinished cycle, why not?
 

This is for me nothing more then apply same algorithms to 4D space instead of 3D.

Number of dimensions can grow, but algorithms will stay same.

--
Dmitriy Shabanov

[inference]

bbecaseu you (people) cannot work with open systems in the mind. They provide an answer, a closing unit, rational irrational emotional technical, does not matter. Eveery message sent over a netweork have that way of packaging and a check on the completion of the mesage content. Physically it does not work otherwise 

[inference]

No continued excitem/inhibition is tolerable to human sensors. Rhythm and change are a must. No one can stand silence for ever or noise, or light or dark for ever it is as simle as that

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From: Dmitriy Shabanov

To: anim...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 5:26 PM

Subject: Re: [animotron] a fundamental rule

[Dmitriy Shabanov]

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:33 PM, inference <f.ko...@btinternet.com> wrote:

No continued excitem/inhibition is tolerable to human sensors. Rhythm and change are a must. No one can stand silence for ever or noise, or light or dark for ever it is as simle as that

If we have dark, sensors change parameters and we see. Bright white and it cut off.

Another example: recording studio room with acoustic echo cancellation. After some time our sensor will start to measure "internal sound".

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Dmitriy Shabanov

[inference]

yo nothing is continued ad infinitum

----- Original Message -----

From: Dmitriy Shabanov

To: anim...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 5:39 PM

Subject: Re: [animotron] a fundamental rule

[Dmitriy Shabanov]

or finity is division one infinity to another =)

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:53 PM, inference <f.ko...@btinternet.com> wrote:

yo nothing is continued ad infinitum

 - question must be answered ether no answer on time of asking;
 - we need test (small, understandable, deterministic) per rule;

--
Dmitriy Shabanov

[inference]

WHAT ELSE DO YOU EXPECT FROM ME?

i have submited a couple of ideas, you need to make up your mind

----- Original Message -----

From: Dmitriy Shabanov

To: anim...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 6:08 PM

Subject: Re: [animotron] a fundamental rule

[inference]

But I am surely not interested in the spatial analysis of a photo. Nothing interests me in terms of time and space where motion is not included in the model. There is always one elemnt from the three that will be left infnite or undefined. we can take the dimensions

dot, line, plane, cube, each has at lest one infinite dimension

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Dmitriy Shabanov

To: anim...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 6:08 PM

Subject: Re: [animotron] a fundamental rule

[Dmitriy Shabanov]

Stop think in that topology, plug different to same algorithms

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:20 PM, inference <f.ko...@btinternet.com> wrote:

But I am surely not interested in the spatial analysis of a photo. Nothing interests me in terms of time and space where motion is not included in the model. There is always one elemnt from the three that will be left infnite or undefined. we can take the dimensions

dot, line, plane, cube, each has at lest one infinite dimension

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Dmitriy Shabanov