understanding and knowledge

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Ferenc

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Dec 15, 2011, 7:08:05 AM12/15/11
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Understanding an animo graph means to know how to make one 8it). So
understanding is knowledge or more specifically procedural knowledge.
The know-how, the know to plus verb format of of knowledge and NOT
lexical knowledge, which is usually a collection of noun phrases or
clusters, which are nothing but labels, tags, titles and headings
attached to or assigned to objects. But it is the relation between
those objects that we are all after, admitting that objects as a first
round of discovering relations have properties which can also be said
to be equal to the proposition that an object is a group of other
objects, which are then seen as parts.But that is still not the kind
of relation that you are after in understanding as such parts added
together may not result in a whole, as there is a difference between
additive and productive relations.
It is the productive relations that we are after, the process in space-
time in which objects are assembled to make a new object that is NOT
the sum of the parts.
So a 2d picture of an animo graph does not tell anything about how the
graph is generated without knowing which an animo graph is not
understandable TO ME - at least.

Dmitriy Shabanov

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Dec 18, 2011, 8:38:29 AM12/18/11
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On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Ferenc <genez...@googlemail.com> wrote:
Understanding an animo graph means to know how to make one 8it). So
understanding is knowledge or more specifically procedural knowledge.
The know-how, the know to plus verb format of of knowledge and NOT
lexical knowledge, which is usually a collection of noun phrases or

lexical knowledge is more then that. it transformation direction, same as verb:

smallest => first match "small", next match "est" & transform "small" in direction of "est" getting object "smallest". This algorithm can be used for all prefixes & suffixes, and verbs ... etc.

clusters, which are nothing but labels, tags, titles and headings
attached to or assigned to objects. But it is the relation between
those objects that we are all after, admitting that objects as a first
round of discovering relations have properties which can also be said
to be equal to the proposition that an object is a group of other
objects, which are then seen as parts.But that is still not the kind
of relation that you are after in understanding as such parts added
together may not result in a whole, as there is a difference between
additive and productive relations.
It is the productive relations that we are after, the process in space-
time in which objects are assembled to make a new object that is NOT
the sum of the parts.
So a 2d picture of an animo graph does not tell anything about how the
graph is generated without knowing which an animo graph is not
understandable TO ME - at least.

Most important task is positioning on object at knowledge space. That object can be time-space object in action(s) or time-space object defined by properties, this (actions & properties) create animo object context (outgoing relationships)

Language does not exist on it own, it based on features that we (group that speak that language) are share. So, each person at group should be able to do it.

My list:
 - create objects context (sensors properties connection "still" (color, smell, shape or shape features & etc) and "in-motion" (extract properties/connections from time series)
 - find intersection, find commons (can be describe as two intersection: forward & backward) (simple to describe as waves interferences)
 - transformation base on topological conflict (most complicated and interesting part) (feature extraction base on connections)

 - reasoning one level higher algorithms by they can/should base on one from list above.

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Dmitriy Shabanov

FERENC KOVACS

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Dec 18, 2011, 8:46:27 AM12/18/11
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eventually we will be able to work together and speak the same language. I am going to write down the algorhithm that I have in my mind as a language model to document knowledge in terms of semantic primitives associated with PoS categories. It loks that it can be aligned to yours and vice versa. But now I am travelling to Budapest again.
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