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Jason Berk

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Dec 19, 2012, 2:15:43 PM12/19/12
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I'm still using eclipse and the more I do javascript coding, the more I want to hurt myself.  I seriously considering a jump to IntelliJ.  Can anybody give me some advice on what editor/IDE they are using and why I should or shouldn't consider a move to IntelliJ?

just for some background, my "project" is a suite of internal tools to by used by our employees on the intranet.  I'm using eclipse and creating a single WAR.  all the HTML/JS is under Web Content while all the services being used are served by Jersey under the src folder.  This allows for one "applications.war" that is very self contained.  Now that I have my "site" content (http interceptor, authentication, styles, etc) set up, new apps are just a controllers file and the associated services (generally under a single package in src)

thus far I'm very happy with this layout, but JS (and even html) editing in eclipse (indigo) seem very cumbersome and out of date for the web 2.0 world I'm living in currently.

Jason

Dave Merrill

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Dec 19, 2012, 2:33:43 PM12/19/12
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I've been using IntelliJ for several years now I think, and it's the first time I've actually loved an IDE. It's just really smart. Getting where you need to go, and seeing what you need to see, is really quick, like it makes watching my coworkers get around kind of painful. Supports tons of languages, very customizable. There's a plugin for Angular too.

I work primarily in ColdFusion, Javascript, CSS and SQL, and it's pretty good for all of them. Not without its warts for sure, and ColdFusion doesn't get that much love (smaller user base), but it's the best out there by far IMO. (FWIW, I'm not a fan of Eclipse, never liked it, just feels clunky to me.)

Dave Merrill

Joshua Miller

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Dec 19, 2012, 3:03:50 PM12/19/12
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Hi!

I'm a bit "old school", so I use Vim. With a few plugins, I get everything I need: completion, snippets, symbol jumping, tag mapping, git integration, etc. It makes for a really productive editor. Here are some of the plugins I use and love: bufexplorer, CtrlP, easymotion, fugitive, NerdTree, TagBar, and UltiSnips. My entire configuration is online: github.com/joshdmiller/dot-files.

I am a strong proponent of open source, so IntelliJ and WebStorm are automatically out and they, as well as Eclipse and NetBeans, feel very bloated to me. Personally, I just don't appreciate a full IDE's added value. 

Vim may not be what you're looking for (and there is a moderate learning curve), but it's worth a try.

Josh


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WebStorm with AngularJS plugin. 
John


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eddelplus

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I really like NetBeans as my duck. It walks, swims, flies. It's probably not a champion in either category but a fantastic companion overall.
There is an AngularJS plugin available that should fix the HTML syntax checking and even know the directives. NetBeans 7.3 will improve
its JS/HTML capabilites even further. If you're doing REST backends with Java/Jersey, I you certainly got a winning combination. I'm doing
my Angular development in PHP mode right now, just without any PHP.

Cheers, Jochen

jay.r...@gmail.com

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Dec 20, 2012, 12:20:49 AM12/20/12
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Sublime Text 2 in (Vim Mode). I prefer Vim if I am working on smaller set of files.

Vim bindings really comes in handy.

Jay

jmeco

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WebStorm/IntelliJ with AngularJS plugin.

Jean

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Dec 20, 2012, 6:55:04 AM12/20/12
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I use NetBeans and it's a good IDE, a bit weaker on the javascript side but 7.3 should make that better.


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Sergey Chico

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Dec 20, 2012, 7:15:19 AM12/20/12
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WebStorm is uberIDE

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Michael Bielski

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Dec 20, 2012, 10:21:54 AM12/20/12
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I just switched yesterday to WebStorm after years of using Visual Studio. The plugin for Angular is what tipped the scales. BTW, JetBrains is having a sale today (ends Dec 21, 2012 at 5:11 AM their time) for their products, including WebStorm.

Michael Bielski

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Dec 20, 2012, 10:32:33 AM12/20/12
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Of course, they are getting SLAMMED... so be patient.

Jay

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Dec 20, 2012, 10:48:12 AM12/20/12
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I was about to say the same thing. Good deal though.

Ricardo Bin

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Sublime Text 2 with Angular snippets

dlo...@googlemail.com

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I use Notepad++, because I cant get rid of it. I have to do all the things around a project by myself, but I like these "low level"-feeling as it gives me the power to know about every single action. Sublime seems interessting for me as a alternative. I used WebStorm for a short while too, which is a impressive program if can controll it in a practiced way. I thing it is subjective thing, which one you should use. 

Jonathan Card

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Dec 20, 2012, 1:26:52 PM12/20/12
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Thanks for the heads up Michael! My eval was about to expire :).

Things like the inline HTML editing (e.g. AngularJS directives w/ inlined template) are nice. Definitely a step up on Eclipse or Netbeans on web language support.

Amit Kumar

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Dec 20, 2012, 2:28:55 PM12/20/12
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I strongly recommend IntelliJ Idea and the Chrome AngularJS plugin. It has been a pleasure developing Angular apps using these 2. Btw - Don;t miss the sale today :-) 


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Jason Berk

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Dec 20, 2012, 2:48:38 PM12/20/12
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I got the dreaded "come back later" message.  I do plan on getting my $50 copy this evening....

Jason

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javaConductor

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Dec 20, 2012, 4:52:28 PM12/20/12
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I have been using WebStorm for AngularJs projects.

Witold Szczerba

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I am using NetBeans, as all the projects are server-side Java/Maven.
Netbeans JS editor is not very smart, only simple stuff work like
renaming local variables, CSS auto-completion, few refactoring tools,
nothing shocking. The thing is, the 7.3 version is introducing brand
new JavaScript editor:
http://wiki.netbeans.org/NewAndNoteworthyNB73#JavaScript_Editor
(beware, ugly L&F chosen in many screenshots, it is customizable, see
e.g. Nimbus L&F)

It looks like the Netbeans guys want to challenge Intellij IDEA. We
will see. I have tried the pre-beta version, but as they warned, it
was buggy, so I stepped back to 7.2, but in few weeks the 7.3 final
should be released.
Of course, most of Eclipse guys I have met, would never stoop low down
to use that 'thing', but I recommend trying.

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Witold Szczerba

Miguel Ping

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Dec 28, 2012, 6:30:57 AM12/28/12
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Sublime user here, and also webstorm user.
I never really digged vim, but I respecto mot of the folks who use it.

John Fletcher

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Dec 28, 2012, 8:32:28 AM12/28/12
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That's interesting because I use Sublime for my Angular / NodeJS work and after reading this thread was wondering whether Webstorm would be a better choice. What do you mean that you use both - do you mean you swapped? I mean surely you don't open up the same project in different editors depending on how you're feeling? What are the major advantages of one over the other for you?
 
John

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Sergey Chico

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Dec 28, 2012, 8:38:38 AM12/28/12
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 In my opinion WebStorm is better choice. Sublime is a superfunctional editor but it is not IDE. It does not help you debugging and etc. And it even costs more than WebStorm.

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Jason Berk

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Dec 28, 2012, 8:58:56 AM12/28/12
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I use VIM as my default text editor.  I did buy intelliJ and plan on migrating to that in the coming weeks

Pertti Kellomäki

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Dec 28, 2012, 1:39:28 PM12/28/12
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I'm a bit surprised to be the only one to 'fess up being an Emacs user. The others must be hiding under their primordial rocks ;-)

Pertti

Andy Joslin

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Dec 28, 2012, 2:53:16 PM12/28/12
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Vim + some sort of automated watch/lint/rebuild process (usually makefile or gruntfile)

Joshua Miller

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Dec 28, 2012, 3:30:08 PM12/28/12
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Finally, another dedicated Vim user!


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Vim + some sort of automated watch/lint/rebuild process (usually makefile or gruntfile)

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Johannes Hiemer

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Dec 28, 2012, 3:31:01 PM12/28/12
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Sublime, best editor used so far.
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Getulio Romão Campos Junior

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We will use Ruby as the backend and Javascript/AngularJS on the Frontend. Will be a one page application. With that in mind what would be a better IDE ?

- RubyMine
- WebStorm 

Thanks for a feedback.

Regards,

Getulio


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@Josh Yeah!! Vim forever :-)

Here's my rantpost about IDEs:

IDEs try to do everything, and are good at nothing.

vim does text editing very well.  So I use it
git cli does version control very well. So I use it
ag does file searching very well. **ag plug: So someone built a small vim plugin which when I press 'fs' searches the cwd for a phrase or regex and puts it in the error view. And it's basically instant.. because ag is amazing. ag > ack > grep >>> ides in speed (http://goo.gl/oawP0)**
wr does file watching very well. (npm install -g wr; wr "make build" src/**/*.js)
cat does concatenation very well. (it's cat!! My build process is 'cat src/**/* build.js; uglifyjs < build.js > build.min.js')
make does build processes very well. (it's make.. it's the best..).

So I just use the tools that are really good at things instead of a humongous ide :-)

What do IDEs do well?  Take eclipse.. it is good at being slow, having annoying editors, hiding how build processes actually work (seriously, in all the years since using eclipse for java I STILL don't know how the java build process really works), having a million windows, and trying to be pretty but really not being pretty :-p
IDEs also have these things called snippets which stop you from actually learning languages yourself :-p
I admit autocomplete in ide is nice with java libraries though...

So basically the lesson is.. use the best tool for each task you need to do.  And IDEs just don't do that.  I like text editing. So I use vim.

Sorry, but I had to say stuff :D

Dave Merrill

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I'm pretty certain WebStorm doesn't speak Ruby, so unless you want to use a different IDE for the back end, I'd go with RubyMine, which I believe does have the web stuff. (But you should confirm; not that much of a Ruby guy myself.)

Or go with the full version of IDEA (what I use), which has many languages.

Dave Merrill

Michael Dausmann

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Jan 15, 2013, 4:56:35 PM1/15/13
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Completely agree Andy.  IDE can get in the way, especially when working with emergent technologies.

Evan Zamir

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The live Chrome editing in WebStorm is awesome. I also use RubyMine, but it doesn't have a killer feature like that.

Joe Seeley

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A bit of an old post, but hey, another VIM user here.  I ended up on this thread while googling for an Angular plugin to VIM.

Thought I would chime in with a couple of thoughts on why I use VIM, why it took me a long time to make that leap, and why many other people don't.

"It's JUST a text editor."

      This is a common misconception.  Many people use VIM occasionally to look at a file while in a terminal session to some remote server.  They learn the minimum to edit,save text.  And sort of write it off as just a text editor.  They never spend the time to
learn about the complete ecosystem of plugins available. They don't realize that most of what their IDE does, VIM does too, but that a lot of what VIM does, their IDE doesn't.

A common argument I will hear is, VIM doesn't do X like my IDE where X is typically one of the following.
     1) Auto-completion - Yes it does, look up the SuperTab plugin.
     2) I can't easily see my directory structure and move between files in VIM - Uh...look into NERDTree
     3) VIM doesn't do syntax checking for me - Look into Syntastic
     4) I can't easily toggle comments - Again, yes you can
     5) I can't jump to function definitions - Take a look at ctags.
     6) My IDE has built in Git/SVN (insert version control here) - Yeah; so does VIM

That's just a few of the common reasons; there are more.  And usually the person just doesn't know that in fact like Prego, "It's in there."

So then as a VIM power user you step back and look at this from further away and you say; yeah I understand why everyone else is using an IDE.  With VIM it is not at all obvious what it's many capabilities are, both out of the box, and through plugin configuration.
If I have a pair programming session with someone they typically can not not work on my machine as VIM has a steep learning curve and will slow them down.  On the flip side, I can jump onto their machine and get going right away on whatever IDE they may be using (Eclipse, IntelliJ, XCode, Visual Studio, etc...).  It doesn't matter the IDE, just start typing and let auto-complete do it's magic in the background, page through a couple of menus until I find what I need, skip out to the terminal and run git directly.

That ease of getting started in the IDE is why people use them over VIM in the first place.  It's why I used them for a long long time as well.  And for a developer that works their entire career working on mostly a single tech stack like .NET for example, the advantage to using VIM is less clear.  There is a lot the IDE offers to the users as they really dig in and learn it, but they can also get started being productive right away.

Personally though, I work with so many different stacks just in any given week, that it was just overload trying to truly grok a bunch of different IDEs.  I would go to work and flip between RubyMine and Netbeans depending if I was working a Rails or a PHP project.  I would come home and flip between Visual Studio, XCode, and Eclipse depending on if I was working on an Windows Phone 8, iPhone, or Android project.  It was too many sets of shortcut key bindings to do the same thing etc...  I had seen some power VIM users in the past, as well as used it to a limited extent for basic text editing over the years.  I finally said, enough is enough; I need to learn VIM.

Now I use VIM for all of my projects and I stay in VIM about 90% of the time.  The other 10% spent in an IDE is either pair programming or opening an IDE specifically to use a drap and drop editor as in the case of XCode for iPhone apps.

Dalci de Jesus Bagolin

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I am using Brackets http://brackets.io/
It is all built in Javascript and Chrome and now comes with Node.js.

Dalci


Dave Merrill

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Just to say it, IntelliJ handles tons of languages too, some internally and some with plugins. Not trying to convert anyone (well maybe I am, just not you Joe, you're obviously very happy w Vim), and of course it's got its warts, but really, it's very good.

Dave Merrill

Or Zilca

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phpStorm (is the same as webStorm, only with PHP support)

pretty awesome piece of software..

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Rafael Bernard Rodrigues Araujo

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I am using NetBeans. I develop my apps with PHP as backend.

Rafael


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David Nelson

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intellij / webstorm all the way.  amazing software!


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Michael Wills

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IntelliJ here as well. :D


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Clint Checketts

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Of use to for this conversation is the AngularJS Meetup last week about using WebStorm with AngularJS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJOyrSh1kDU

And the fact that it is nearly half off this week: http://www.jetbrains.com/webstorm/buy/ (In celebration for Earth day)

Geoff Goodman

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I use Cloud9IDE exclusively to build Plunker and occasionally brainstorm / test ideas for Plunker in Plunker. How meta...

The reason for this odd setup is that I frequently switch computers and Cloud9IDE follows me everywhere I go ;-)

nitya

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+1 for WebStorm - in addition to built-in support for Angular, I also like the sync-ed debug across WS and Chrome when you install the related JetBrains Chrome extension.

Jiyin Yiyong

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I found it really hard to debug JS generated HTML in Brackets.. once I open the Element panel, the live preview will break. Then I suppose Brackets are only suitable for static HTML pages. While you are using that with Angular, how would you debug the elements?

Ed Barahona

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Brackets with the Angular extension

Singgih Cahyono

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Eclipse here with Maven project that automate JavaScript unit testing and code coverage analysis.

Emmanuel DEMEY

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If you are developing full JS app, you should consider the WebStorm IDE.

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Il giorno 08/mag/2014, alle ore 20:01, Ed Barahona <ebar...@gmail.com> ha scritto:

Brackets with the Angular extension

Brackets is a good editor, but it does not permit to save to remote server.

M.

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Richard Seldon

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As already posted by others, Webstorm 8 is a great IDE. Please, try it and see for yourselves if not already using it.

They have a 30 day free trial - yes, there is a small license fee, well worth investing in!


Too many essential features to list. Everyone in our team finds it indispensable.

Lots of great videos on youtube / Jetbrains TV etc for getting up to speed too, if needed.

Plugin for VIM bindings etc too if that interests you.

Cheers,



Geoff Goodman

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Not sure if I, or someone else mentioned it, but the beta Cloud9IDE native editor is really fantastic. I use it on Windows which allows me to have access to a familiar unix-like console, breakpoint debugging of node.js and very solid auto-completion.

I'm not sure how non-beta users could gain access to this tool, but I would be lying if I didn't say I love it. http://c9.io (I'm in no way affiliated with them)

Geoff


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Kevin Burnett

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+1 vim! I gave a shoutout to this post in the vim-angular plugin README. :) I thought I'd point vim people over there in case it might be useful. In addition to the plugin adding some features that I find useful, I've tried to summarize the other nice-to-have plugins for editing AngularJS with vim. Let me know if I've missed any.

-KB

Richard Seldon

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JetBrains WebStorm (currently version 8), I would 100% recommend using this product. JetBrains Intellij does have the features of Webstorm, plus support for much more, the licensing cost is higher too so perhaps only pay the extra license cost if you were going to need the added feature sets.

Webstorm 8 has so many features and integration support for most needs. It is a very well thought out IDE with lots of specific support features for AngularJS. JetBrains TV has lots of video tutorials that demonstrate these, plus other nice features like built in support for Grunt, Mocha, NodeJS, GIT etc etc too. Has a built in Command Window for command line ops etc. Finally, for VIM lovers, it does also have a VIM plugin so you get the VIM key bindings and so on. As a long term VIM user, and someone that like to work from the command line, Webstorm has meant I can still use my favourite dev workflows, and sense of being “light weight” as an Editor.



Jeff Turner

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I also use  vim. With the plugins from my headless setup and dotfiles (syssetup & dotfiles), I'm able to get up an productive on a new instance very quickly.

Stanislav Ustimenko

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My choice is Codelobster with special Angular plug-in: http://codelobster.com/angularjs.html

Andres Villanueva

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I just switched some weeks ago to Webstorm 9.0.3 from Sublime Text 3. 

Greg Pasquariello

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Webstorm.  I like the editor of Sublime Text, but the using the rest of the thing is like trying to drive a car while you hold the axles in place with your hands.

I do backend coding as well and the step debugger is invaluable.


Regards
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Webstorm [paid]
Sublime 3 with angularjs [free]
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Rafael Bernard Rodrigues Araujo

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Netbeans and Atom.io.
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Samuel Castro e Silva

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Webstorm 10.

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Dave Merrill

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IntelliJ IDEA Ultimate (I do back-end work too).

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Jason,

I can give you a IDE which is developed by Eclipse itself for UI technologies i.e, Aptana, still its not the best in the market for UI IDE, since you have used Eclipse this Aptana will be very familiar to use.
Othe than that webstorm and atom IDE's are seriously one of the best in the markets.

Stanislav Ustimenko

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Codelobster works very good for me.
It has special AngularJS plug-in: http://www.codelobster.com/angularjs.html
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