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Steve Garman

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Jan 14, 2016, 3:32:28 AM1/14/16
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I've been signed up for a Premium subscription for over a month now and I thought I would report back with my thoughts on it.

I signed up first of all as a way to contribute to the DroidScript project in the hope that it will help it to be financially solvent and so make sure DroidScript continues to be available and constantly developed.

Once I had joined up, I found there are a couple of extra samples in DroidScript which are intended for people who intend to make sales from inside their apps.
These cover in-app-purchases and subscriptions.

I also received an invitation to join the Premium support group where Dave and ChrisH are very responsive in answering DroidScript-specific questions and happy to discuss some more complex stuff than normally comes up in the main group.
They also seem to be very open to suggestions about future enhancements/plugins that are more appropriate to serious developers.

But the thing I was surprised to find I like the best is the free access to paid plugins.

I have always tried to buy plugins I might use, as a way to contribute a little money but now I find myself downloading plugins I would not have bothered to buy if I was having to pay for them individually, just to see what they do.

That way I have access to floating action buttons and date/time pickers much more professional than the versions I was developing myself, as well as looking at the potential of plugins for devices I do not even own yet.

Charles Wilt

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Jan 14, 2016, 7:29:27 AM1/14/16
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Thanks for the report Steve. 

I have been considering the subscription to help keep DS moving forward even though I am not a "serious" developer. So far I have only created apps for my own use.

Steve Garman

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Jan 14, 2016, 7:40:39 AM1/14/16
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Charles,
You certainly don't need to be a serious developer to get benefit from a subscription.
I don't consider myself a serious DS developer either.

As you imply, it's worth it just to keep DS moving forward.

I hope to see lots of people popping up in the Premium group, taking advantage of the plugins, the availability of top-level advice and getting better-equipped for producing great apps.


Chris

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Jan 14, 2016, 12:13:54 PM1/14/16
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I have also been a premium subscriber since it was available.

If you subscribe, hopefully WHEN you subscribe, you will find a lot of posts from me :) The conversation is indeed towards developing more seriously, but not necessarily because you are a 'serious' developer.

DS is very unique. There are other javascript to droid bridges, but, try to build an apk. need help? well, send an email to the developer and you may or may not get a response. Dave and ChrisH are not only good developers, they are creating a very professional development environment.

It is a job. Developing, answering questions, new features, plugins....

IF you come to these forums continuously for answers, in my opinion, you should subscribe to further help DS development.

I also use the premium access to plugins now, and use more of them in my apps --- interesting Steve that you're doing the same :)

One thing most people are forgetting, the DS plugin SDK is amazing. I wrote the FTP plugin.., it was my first DS plugin. The premium forum is a great place to learn more about the java plugin aspect, being able to extend DS to do whatever you may need! Topics that are alittle more indepth can be openly discussed there... BUT simple questions too! (I've asked a few myself :).

I really would recommend it.

Charles Wilt

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Jan 15, 2016, 7:35:18 AM1/15/16
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Chris,

You mentioned the plugin SDK. I have discussed privately with Dave about creating plugins for some of the developer boards I play with. Still want to do it, but my job leaves me with very little free time.

You will see me over there soon.

Chris

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Jan 22, 2016, 11:20:10 AM1/22/16
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First off, I am in no way affiliated or connected to DS or the developers, these thoughts are solely my own.

If you have posted more than a few questions on this forum, why haven't you went premium. If you are developing apps with DS, why haven't you went premium. If you are using an app for ANY purpose outside of personal, why haven't you went premium.

Has anyone even CONSIDERED the amount of time that it takes to develop DS? IT IS A FULL TIME JOB. You may work elsewhere and then benefit from the ease of DS to build an app --- nice isn't it? GO PREMIUM.

I've been subscribed since before it was even public - why? I use DS. It's that simple.

The two guys behind DS are not microsoft or google, they are two guys trying to build a great product - and, to anyone that uses DS - they know that.

This isn't a get rich off an app scheme... it's sustainability of the future of DS. If a guy works 8 hours a day for a week to bring a new feature and make things better, and at the end of it makes 20 dollars (maybe less) for someone who decides to buy a plugin - WOULD YOU CONTINUE DEVELOPING? I would not.

I am angry and animated because I come to these forums and see the same people asking more and more questions, yet, I don't see them in the premium forum.

I THINK, this forum should be closed. it should remain as read-only for searching, etc, but if you want help, you should be premium. THAT IS HOW EVERY SOFTWARE PRODUCT IS THAT I KNOW. Keep DS free, make forum support a part of the premium package.

Will that turn some away? PROBABLY. But guess what, THEY WERE NEVER GOING TO GO PREMIUM ANYHOW.

No one is really considering the FUTURE of DS. I love the ease of building an app, the plugin SDK is great, Dave and ChrisH are very responsive to ideas, and the wants of the user base.... so...

GO Premium!

Support DS before development comes to a stand still.

I really do support the idea of the forum access being for premium users only. If a person needs help, he xan go premium and hr has 30 days of forum access... if after he cancels, when he needs help again, he can subscribe again.

Again, these are MY views.

Chris

Steve Garman

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Jan 23, 2016, 7:43:37 AM1/23/16
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For those who did not read the release notes for DroidScript v1.32 it may be worth pointing out that Dave included this statement.

*** Please be aware that the introduction of this Premium Service is ABSOLUTELY necessary for the survival this product, we simply won't be able to continue with out it! So please support us by subscribing and encourage others to do the same. Thank you :) ***

The rest of the announcement is at https://groups.google.com/d/msg/androidscript/gPBa56GLE6k/RoC4cXzwAgAJ

Andy Barnhart

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Feb 12, 2016, 5:31:41 PM2/12/16
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I have only been messing with this a couple of days and I am in. When I get my link and go start asking questions they may want to kick me out and give me my money back though... ;->

Paul Norman

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Apr 11, 2016, 9:21:42 PM4/11/16
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Hi Chris,

"I THINK, this forum should be closed. it should remain as read-only for searching, etc, but if you want help, you should be premium."

Its a delicate balancing act.

I watched Borland Delphi etc start to kind of move that sort of way of thinking when Embracardo bought it all out.

They really didn't understand the importance of genuine free community involvement - development and the public's contribution of vital and useful free code was more important to their overall development ecosystem and atmosphere - than Embracardo had realised.

The then apparently wrongly handled monetisation policies drove many (inclding key professionals) away to other development environments and even to different languages.

They had to backtrack on a few policies later, but things never really fully recovered. Commercially it was a short term view that had long-term implications.

In a very simillar scenario the highly sucessful Blender model (excuse the insider pun) of operations is very successful and worthy of contemplation here in my oppinion.

They faced many simillar issues and marked out a very balanced, vital, and creative way forward I believe.

And their designers' enterprise is incredibly expansive, having to cover a very wide gambit from real world production, ux, to coding to scripting to multimedia, and beyond.

You can design anything in Blender from objects for graphics programmes, to engineered suspension bridges, rockets, to 3d printer products, to just making a full on animation or full featured(!) video movie.

An early animation...
https://peach.blender.org/download/

And yes, they do "pay" for the targeted generation of a lot of the key development areas of their total OpenSource environment.

Their history, and workable balanced development ecosystem solutions, may well help in contemplating such things a bit here perhaps.

https://www.blender.org

Paul

Dave Smart

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Apr 12, 2016, 5:56:34 AM4/12/16
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Don't worry guys, I intend to keep this forum open and provide a free version of DroidScript indefinitely.  This is because I have educational commitments and I'm a STEM ambassador here in Cambridge UK. 

I want everyone to have access to this product (including those in the 3rd world) because I think it's a great learning platform and will open up many opportunities in the tech industry for people who may never have had the chance.  This is partly because DroidScript is not tied to the cloud like many other development solutions, it can truly be used anywhere, in schools (which often restrict internet access), on the bus, the train (even in a tunnel) or in the middle of the dessert with no internet connection and on very cheap and fairly out-of-date Android devices.

I do however intend to ramp up the pressure for those more serious developers, particularly those using it for professional products to come across to premium and even sign up to enhanced support contracts.  This is because we barely survive on the income from IAP and subscriptions at the moment and in order to grow the team we MUST generate more income from this product.

Regards
David

DocSalvager

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Apr 12, 2016, 6:27:53 AM4/12/16
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Thank You for reassuring us, Dave.

I'm a career programmer forced to retire early due to medical problems. DS looks like a good language for getting started in open-source Android development. But, living well below the poverty line now, subscribing is not possible for me. I know well your need for a revenue stream though. FWIW, I think you're on the right track in your plans.

If it doesn't work out though, you've created an outstanding piece of software that will truly make the world a better place for long time to come if you open-source existing versions and only sell the rights going forward. That someone will want to buy you out is without question. Your software is too good not to!

nikhil baby

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Apr 12, 2016, 9:20:25 AM4/12/16
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Hi Dave,
You can give D.S with all features for free to people cannot pay for premium and if they eligible! or to brilliant students!

Dave Smart

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Apr 12, 2016, 11:00:55 AM4/12/16
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Hi Nikhil,

It's hard to think of a way of doing that technically is not open to abuse or one that does not require a lot of administration.

Gerard Hernandez

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Apr 12, 2016, 11:23:06 AM4/12/16
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Totally agree with Dave, and sorry Nikhil, Premium is required for the survival of this project and even that it would be nice to have premium stuff for free for absolutely ALL (I have never been on the side that there are special people, all deserve the same opportunities), DS is not Microsoft or something like that with tons of $$$ that can create school benefit projects. 

The team actually has been created an amazing tool and give it for free. Serious developers, hobbyist and even some students have had the chance to join the Premium plan, which help DS to remain alive (barely, for what Dave has said) and continue the development of non-premium features.  

I recall, that from when Premium was launched, only transparent and themed apps, In App Purchases and Subscriptions, SDK Plugin generator, access to all paid plugins and faster support are part of the subscription, there have a lot been of new features and additions that are not Premium Only. maybe some features will be premium only, others wont, but that is up to the DS team.

You may want to get some of these https://play.google.com/about/giftcards/" that way you dont need to ask for a credit card from your parents, but will still need the money. Of course, I guess that those cards are not available all over the world

Dave Smart

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Apr 12, 2016, 11:44:45 AM4/12/16
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I think the only way that you will see DroidScript totally free in the near future, is if some large and benevolent (possibly educational) organisation offer to buy DroidScript for the good of the community and promise not to kill it and to allow the current DroidScript team to stay in charge for the next few years.  I would consider an offer like that, and we might even consider making it open source too.

So if you want that to happen, start sending emails to big friendly organisations and tell them how wonderful DroidScript is :) 

We will pass 500,000 downloads in the next week and that might make us a bit more noticeable and attractive to potential buyers.  I am also talking to (so called) angel investors, but they are often only interested in making money and may not have the best interests of the community at heart.  I'm also applying for a NESTA grant, but that will probably provide only a small financial boost and could take some time.

I've also considered crowd investment and crowd funding solutions, but looking back through the history of software products on KickStarter things do not look very good, unless you have a very famous software team to boast about.

Any other ideas are welcome.


Michael Seymour

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Apr 18, 2016, 11:56:53 AM4/18/16
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Maybe you could hire volunteer developers to create apps and games to highlight certain code functions, kind of a "Samples 2.0" kind of thing, and sell them along with the source code on the Play Store with some profit going to you and some to the volunteer? I say volunteer because they're pretty much working for free and giving over what they've made.
Maybe include some sort of license that allows people to edit the code and use in their own works. This would give new users a springboard/templates to work from and make things more appealing?

nikhil baby

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Apr 19, 2016, 8:17:22 AM4/19/16
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Michael Seymour is right!

if Dave likes this idea i will also sent templates for paid sample 2.0

Darin Murphy

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Aug 8, 2016, 10:00:57 PM8/8/16
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I only started using DroidScript for a couple of months, but was so impressed with what can be accomplished with it, that I went ahead and purchased the "Premium Subscription" too! I hope that in doing so, I'll be a active voice for those of us who wish to develope applications with Droidscript, who have tablets with Blue-Tooth keyboards. I am also going to be pushing for having documentation updated as well, since there are a lot of missing information, that I'm sure others like myself, have to go hunting for Android Java docs for it. I think Premium, while a bit pricey will give the financial boost that the developers need to keep bug-fixing, improving and adding documentation to make Droidscript even better for everyone (free/Premium)! Take care now!

Robbie Kendall

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Sep 16, 2016, 6:45:12 PM9/16/16
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Upgraded to premium myself a couple hours ago, I think it's well worth it. Only question is will I get premium benefits on all my devices? 2 phones right now and will be installing on tablet as well.

Chris

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Sep 16, 2016, 6:50:00 PM9/16/16
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As long as all the devices use your google account that purchased premium, it will be available. :-)

Robbie Kendall

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Sep 16, 2016, 7:31:41 PM9/16/16
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Cool thanks for reply, all devices use same Google account so should be fine

Peter Kleiweg

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Sep 22, 2016, 3:09:27 PM9/22/16
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I'd be glad to support Droidscript, but more than six dollars each month is a lot of money. If I'd had to pay that for all the software I'm using, I couldn't do it, and I would not be able to write any free software myself.

All the excellent open source software out there is made possible by the use of other excellent open source software. Open source is a great force for innovation.

I admit not every developer is in the same position, and I do pay for some software. But not every month. That's unreasonable to ask.

I think that for any software for developers to get large support, you have to go open source. Otherwise, people are reluctant to invest time and effort.

My suggestion would be: Ask only a one time payment for full access to the software. Ask monthly payments for tech support only. Try to make Droidscript open source in the future.

Gloglas´s Studio

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Sep 27, 2016, 3:37:42 PM9/27/16
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Please make permanent premium for about 18€.

Dave Smart

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Dec 3, 2016, 5:03:12 AM12/3/16
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Come on guys, premium is less that the price of 1 pint of beer and a packet of crisps (chips) each month!

Are you really saying that all the functionality you get, all the learning, all the support we provide (not to mention the potential for making money from your own apps or landing a coding job) is not worth that much?

Most open source tools are either made by students that have little or no family responsibilities or more usually by large corporations or foundations that can afford to sponsor them, especially as it is good PR for them and drives people towards their platforms.  We are however a very small team of full and part time middle aged parents with mortgages to pay and kids to feed, so it's just not practical for us to make it cheaper or to go open source.

Warren Downs

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Dec 5, 2016, 2:38:28 PM12/5/16
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I support the model you are using, and hope to be able to go Premium next year (this year my budget is very tight).  However, I hope to be able to contribute features to make Premium even more desirable, along the lines of what Michael Seymour suggested.

Ev. rodrigo dos santos

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Dec 22, 2016, 10:09:10 AM12/22/16
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Is not so much when you have a certain return, I even support appybuild a version of the inventor app, but it has extension to admob and other monetization networks easy to implement so there is a return on investment, but here it is difficult, because we will hardly go Sell an application, but if someone does in droidscript an admob extension I'll bet it will be more interesting to be premium, because for sure we will have the easy return to keep the droidscript premium
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Questao De 5 Minutos

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Dec 22, 2016, 10:22:02 AM12/22/16
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After reading the post from Cris, I was convinced that Premium is supporting ourselves.

JustAnotherDude

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Jan 28, 2017, 11:22:19 AM1/28/17
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sorry for bump or anything but i need to say what:

"premium is less that the price of 1 pint of beer and a packet of crisps (chips)"
in germany the price for premium is 8€+-

one 300g Chips (Tortila) cost 1€ at Edeka or Aldi
and one beer cost 1-2€
so we come to 3€

but guys in the uk only pay 4-5£ (what is at 5£ ~ 5.80€) so the uk guys dont pay what we pay

and this are 2 chips and 2-3 beers :)

Steve Garman

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Jan 28, 2017, 11:48:43 AM1/28/17
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It is a little cheaper in the UK at the moment due to recent changes in the £/€ exchange rate and the fact that the £ price has not changed since before this thread started.

Nonetheless, it is still good value and an excellent way to help ensure the future of DroidScript.

When Brits talk about the "price of a pint of beer and a packet of crisps" they are invariably thinking of the price in a pub/bar.


Mauritz Zondagh

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Jan 31, 2017, 2:09:03 PM1/31/17
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For interest in South Africa 300g chips and 1 beer ~R40 and Premium Droidscript R88

Syed Munawer Hassan

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Feb 12, 2017, 2:15:25 AM2/12/17
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I am also interested in premium subscription can you please tell me If following features are available

Wifi scanning and connectivity
Background app as service i.e. no icon

JustAnotherDude

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Feb 12, 2017, 11:36:20 AM2/12/17
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all extra features are listed if you open the premium buy tab :3

Ev. rodrigo dos santos

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Feb 22, 2017, 4:05:03 PM2/22/17
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In brazil 24 BRL

Beer 6 BRL on average
Elma chips 5 BRL

But still lacking a good monetizador
Would be better with admob plugin, but so far nothing

Ev. rodrigo dos santos

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Apr 3, 2017, 1:35:38 PM4/3/17
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Anyone up to date managed to make an admob module for droidscript? I paid 10  dollars to do it

Ev. rodrigo dos santos

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Apr 3, 2017, 1:35:39 PM4/3/17
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Anyone up to date managed to make an admob module for droidscript? I paid 5 dollars to do it

[anti-hero]

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Apr 9, 2017, 4:31:34 AM4/9/17
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I agree that it's not the easiest thing in the world to make money from free software... Open Source is a little different. Take Linux for example. A LOT of people from all over the world contributed to the project. But in the end companies like RedHat (and other distros) are the ones who actually made a direct profit from the OS, not from selling Linux but from offering premium support options and physical media sells back in the BBS/Gopher days. Anyway I agree the subscription based sales are going to be critical. It kinda puts you guys in a service model instead of the traditional software sales...

[anti-hero]

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Apr 9, 2017, 4:33:58 AM4/9/17
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Correction:

**Open Source is not much different**

Synoptic 1

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May 21, 2017, 11:01:43 PM5/21/17
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free plugins just gone, or did not install, i want the apkbuilder of course, google app store does not open though, can you explain? this phone is new. i want the xmltojs plug. reinstall is not working either

Symbroson Development

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May 22, 2017, 12:10:29 AM5/22/17
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You have to use the same google account with you bought premium

Synoptic 1

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Jun 17, 2017, 4:30:43 PM6/17/17
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Dev should use a financial model and determine a single payment plus one-time purchases, not a subscription or a two-way tariff. I use a debit card online and it is a hassle to keep a monthly subscription, and so many things can go wrong it is unbelievable. For instance, purchasing a couple of samples resulted in a much higher monthly charge for the same item that exhausted the budget next month and the items were not delivered by the mail, besides. Recurrent payments would have bounced automatically before I realized and some accounts are temperamental. Dev will get many more affiliates with single payment plus specific item prices, but it does require tighter financial planning.

Synoptic 1

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Jun 21, 2017, 8:37:38 PM6/21/17
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So no solution. Subscription is no, I could not even get the debit card be recognized by google play, had to use a prepaid card. When opening the DS menu I find buy/install/reinstall all mixed up. Upgrade? Got this inside a micro screen phone with space no more, want it for the tablet rather. What do I do? I am used to single click, no card-hassle downloads.

Jeff Houck

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Jul 23, 2017, 8:08:36 PM7/23/17
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Greetings,
I've just started using DroidScript and I can tell already it's a project I will want to support.
Can someone tell me how to sign onto the Premium subscription?

Cheers

Steve Garman

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Jul 24, 2017, 12:50:34 AM7/24/17
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In the DroidScript app, go into the main menu and select Premium.

This will give you brief details of the subscription and price.

There is a button "Go Premium" which you can use to start the process of purchasing the subscription through your Google Play account.

Once you have subscribed, the Premium features are unlocked and you will receive an invitation to join the DroidScript Premium forum.

Jeff Houck

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Jul 24, 2017, 6:16:16 AM7/24/17
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Thank you Steve for the information.
Looking forward to both signing up to support DS and joining the forum too. :)

Cheers.

Jeff Houck

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Jul 24, 2017, 5:22:01 PM7/24/17
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Subscribed and happy to be so. :)

Cheers.

Arijit Das

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Aug 12, 2017, 11:50:10 AM8/12/17
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Hello,

 I have updated my DroidScript subscription to Premium yesterday at around 7 pm and then I downloaded the ApkBuilder plugin. After downloading and installing the ApkBuilder plugin, I made an apk of my one app. Then I was wanting to re-build the apk of the same app after doing few changes with the app, and for the same I opened the DroidScript and taped/clicked the "Build APK" and it shown me to download the APKBuilder plugin again and with the plugin section it was also showing me to buy and I did buy it and the good news is that, it did not charge me any money. Well. It happened several times with me while I was trying to re-make the apk of the same app.

Though I faced some inconveniences, I still felt it is ok with me. But disaster happened when I tried to download and install the "UIExtras" plugin at around 3 am today, it was also showing me to buy it with its button text and I assumed it will also not charge me any money as I was facing the same thing with the APKBuilder plugin and that time I had not charged any money. BUT this time I got charged of Rs. 460/- for this plugin. But when you are offering all your plugins free to the premium users and I also got the APKBuilder plugin for free as a premium user then WHY I have charged Rs. 460/- separately for the plugin?

Please take an investigation of this issue of mine and return my Rs. 460/-


[Please Note: I am Premium user from INDIA and all the above mentioned purchase times, are based on IST(Indian Standard Time)]

Waiting for your earliest respond.



Thanks.

Steve Garman

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Aug 12, 2017, 12:15:59 PM8/12/17
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That's something I have not seen before.

When you purchased the plugin, Google would have sent you an acknowledgement email.

Please forward it to support[at]droidscript.org (change [at] to @) along with a description of what appears to have happened.

Netpower8

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Sep 15, 2017, 7:10:26 AM9/15/17
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I have an issue. Am not sure which is the problem. I tried to subscribe to premium but google declined the card. The credit i used is a prepaid credit card (loadable) not the regular credit card.does this mean i cant subscribe using this type of card?

Dave Smart

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Sep 15, 2017, 9:52:24 AM9/15/17
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I don't think google allows you can use pre-paid cards for subscriptions.  I guess, that is because they are likely to run out of credit pretty regularly and interrupt the subscription features.

Netpower8

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Sep 15, 2017, 12:03:08 PM9/15/17
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thanks for the reply... i'll see what i can do. thanks

John Constatine

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Sep 25, 2017, 8:42:50 AM9/25/17
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admob reached the premium version?

Antonio Saioni

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Sep 28, 2017, 11:28:28 AM9/28/17
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hi guys.
actually i'm using a prepaid card to pay the premium service and, if i don't forget to recharge it before the renewal date, i have no trouble ...

maybe the prepaid card is not recognized from Google?

bye!
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ANTONIO CLEITON

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Mar 4, 2018, 6:54:19 AM3/4/18
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Parabéns, Dave, pela excelente iniciativa. O diferente do Droidscript é que você pode codificar em qualquer lugar e isso é muito útil. Também é muito simples de aprender, ao contrário do Android Studio por exemplo (algumas vezes frustrante para iniciantes). 

ANTONIO CLEITON

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Mar 4, 2018, 7:10:06 AM3/4/18
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Ola, pessoal! 

Como faço para personalizar um gráfico usando o Jqplot. Vi o modelo de construção de gráficos que vem no Droidscript, mas não sei como personalizá-lo. Como personalizo o arquivo html do Jqplot?

Tenho o seguinte exemplo e gostaria de personalizar os dados iniciais, porque o que aparece é o que está definido no endereço:  fldr = "file:///Sys/Html/jqPlot/";
 web.LoadUrl( fldr + "Pie.html" ). Gostaria que ao iniciar o app já mostre o meu gráfico personalizado.

//Called when application is started.
function OnStart()
{
 //Create a layout with objects vertically centered.
 lay = app.CreateLayout( "linear", "VCenter,FillXY" );

 //Create a web control to show guage.

 web = app.CreateWebView( 0.9, 0.4 );
 lay.AddChild( web );
 
 //Create a text control.
 txt = app.CreateText( "", 0.5, -1 );
 txt.SetMargins( 0, 0.05, 0, 0 );
 lay.AddChild( txt );
 
 var btn = app.CreateButton("Change");
 btn.SetOnTouch( btn_OnTouch );
 lay.AddChild( btn );

 
 //Add layout to app. 
 app.AddLayout( lay );
 
 //Load web page.
 fldr = "file:///Sys/Html/jqPlot/";
 web.LoadUrl( fldr + "Pie.html" );
 
 
}

//Called by html page when bar graph is touched.
function ShowData( data )
{

 app.ShowPopup( data );
}

function btn_OnTouch()
{
    var x1=Math.floor(Math.random()*10+1);
    var x2=Math.floor(Math.random()*10+1);
    var x3=Math.floor(Math.random()*10+1);
    var x4=Math.floor(Math.random()*10+1);
    var s1 = [x1,x2,x3,x4];
 
    var bar = {
        data: [ s1 ]
    };
       
    web.Execute( "plot.replot( " + JSON.stringify( bar ) + " );" );

}
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BRa .MUna.

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Apr 3, 2018, 9:27:52 AM4/3/18
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Bagaimana cara mainnya tolong

Unik

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Jul 11, 2018, 9:15:44 AM7/11/18
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Hi dave,
I can understand that Paying for the app is necessary for its survival but don't you think that paying every month is a bit unaffordable for the users in the poor countries like Nepal...
It would be better if it was one time activation...
Once we buy DS premium, it would be better to give access to premium for lifetime...
Rather than asking for the payment every month...

Steve Garman

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Jul 11, 2018, 12:59:50 PM7/11/18
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Ulnik,

Unfortunately a small one-off premium subscription would not meet the expenses of providing the premium service. It certainly would not add to the DS coffers to enable droidscipt.org to keep DS alive.

There is a one-off lifetme premium subscription for 3 devices (one user) but at $99 US it probably doesn't help you much.

Please remember premium is not compulsory.
The vast majority of DroidScript works fine without premium, though some of it, like themes, is harder work.

If you need to build APKs you would need to purchase the apk-builder plugin if you don't already own it (a one-off payment).

Some other plugins are nice to have but I could manage without them all.

Some of the more recently added features are premium-only but most things that are needed for DroidScript's core purposes come free with DS.

I've been paying a premium subscription since 2015 and I realize there are many parts of the world (and many homes in this country) where fhis would be regarded as an unachievable luxury.

Unfortunately the reality is as you said that DroidScript needs to come close to paying for itself or nobody will be able to neglect their family in order to maintain it.

Unik

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Jul 11, 2018, 9:19:24 PM7/11/18
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alright,
now a little bit confusion,
what about the premium forum support...?
Does it also requires monthly payment or once we get membership we would be able to access it forever...?
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Steve Garman

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Jul 11, 2018, 9:48:58 PM7/11/18
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You only get access to the premium forum while you have a current subscription.

But you get access to this forum and there is a significant level of expertise here too.

It doesn't matter how much you complain. I am genuinely sympathetic to people who find the premium features out of reach for whatever reason.

But you are making it sound like DroidScript.org is making life difficult for you.

What they are doing is providing you with an excellent product for free and plenty of opportunities to ask questions that may well be answered eventually by the same people who are usually answering questions more promptly on the premium forum.

I realize you would like DroidScript to do more for you for very little money but that is not going to happen.

Dave in particular puts in a vast amount of work for very little reward when he could be earning much better money to feed his family by leaving DS untouched.

Perhaps people who complain should consider that the product is already providing wonderful value for no expenditure at all.

Then perhaps they should ask themselves what they would do if they put in lots of work for other people who showed no appreciation but just complained.

It can't be the sort of attitude that makes you happy to carry on keeping your product up to date can it?

Dave

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Jul 13, 2018, 7:41:56 AM7/13/18
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@ Unik

If you were referring to the lifetime premium in your last post, then yes, you get lifetime premium support included for $99

Jared

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Jul 13, 2018, 8:14:39 PM7/13/18
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Sorry if it's already posted somewhere, but how do you purchase the lifetime premium?

Also can you change the three devices at a later point? (Get a new phone, etc)
Thanks

Steve Garman

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Jul 14, 2018, 1:15:26 AM7/14/18
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The system for purchasing lifetime subscriptions is a bit clunky at the moment.

Currently payment can only be taken by paypal.

If you wish to purchase a lifetime subscription you send an email to sup...@droidscript.org
support[at]droidscript.org
who will answer any enquiries you ask in the email.

They will ask you to send the output of a couple of app functions from each device back and to make a paypal payment.

They will send you back licence details to enter into each device

I am not sure of the exact answer about changing devices. I don't know the process so it's probably better if I don't comment. For now it is something to ask when you tell support you are considering buying lifetime premium.

Proper admin for this is in the pipeline but things are a bit hectic at the moment.

Questao De 5 Minutos

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Jul 27, 2018, 12:12:19 PM7/27/18
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Hello, I'm a Premium user, where do I start?

Steve Garman

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Jul 27, 2018, 12:58:35 PM7/27/18
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When you purchased your subscription you were sent by email an invitation to the Premium Forum  

That is the place to discuss premium questions.

Ev. rodrigo dos santos

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Jul 27, 2018, 3:04:00 PM7/27/18
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I am the same user above, except that there is my email on the cell phone, I did not receive any email after signing the prize with that account

Steve Garman

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Jul 27, 2018, 3:18:50 PM7/27/18
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The invite was sent to the first address you raised the query from.

I will resend it in case it went astray.

It's more likely it's ended up in the spam folder or somewhere.

John Constatine

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Jul 27, 2018, 3:35:38 PM7/27/18
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arrived thanks
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pusteb...@gmail.com

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Oct 6, 2018, 4:28:52 PM10/6/18
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Hi, just went premium. I always thought it's 6.95 Euro a month, but it's only 3.95. A REALLY fair price. Thank you for making premium affordable for poor user also.
Thanks DS team

pusteb...@gmail.com

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Oct 6, 2018, 4:41:12 PM10/6/18
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3.49 € even only 🙂

Dave

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Oct 22, 2018, 7:07:10 AM10/22/18
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For those that don't like making regular monthly payments:-

For $99 you can go Premium for life

Just send a request to sup...@droidscript.org and we will send you further instructions


Malamin Gindi

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Dec 5, 2018, 2:46:13 AM12/5/18
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Hi, I join premium since yesterday with email mus...@gmail.com. I'm yet to receive invitation for premium group. Help please Dave

Dave

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Dec 5, 2018, 7:14:51 AM12/5/18
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It can take up to 24 hours for an invitation to go out.  Yours was sent about 2 hours ago.

Tali Tali

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Feb 24, 2019, 6:14:58 AM2/24/19
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I just found my premium forum invite email from the 8th, which expired already. can screenshot.
Would love to join if you can invite me.
Your App is absolutely amazing btw thank you!

Question: When I, for the first time, created an apk with the plugin, there was mention of Signing the App and my key. There was an explanation of how to manage and change it, but now that it's the future already and i want to do that, idk how to retrigger the explanation, nor is it intuitively searchable. So idk what it said plz can someone help? Thanks!

And hey for all you humans complaining about premium, if you are a boss enough person to matter, you should be able to make an app that generates more money than you need to pay for premium monthly using Droidscript. I would think, altho I just saw a post on lack of admob ability so idk, will read further. Toodalooooooo!!!!!

Malamin Gindi

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Feb 27, 2019, 5:19:54 AM2/27/19
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I got kicked out of the premium group when my subscription expired. I resubscribe but didn't get a new premium group invite. Email mus...@gmail.com

Steve Garman

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Feb 27, 2019, 5:35:10 AM2/27/19
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Your invitation has been resent.

If you still don't receive it, please contact sup...@droidscript.org

Pete Bradley

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Mar 15, 2019, 11:16:44 AM3/15/19
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I subscribed on several days ago, can I get an invite to the premium group ?

Steve Garman

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Mar 15, 2019, 11:26:03 AM3/15/19
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Pete,

If you have not received the automatic invitation within 24 hours of purchase, you should contact sup...@droidscript.org telling them the email address you used when purchasing the subscription and preferably quoting the order number you received in the receipt from Google.

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Carlos Eduardo Lopez Olvera

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Oct 24, 2019, 11:38:18 AM10/24/19
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El domingo, 21 de mayo de 2017, 22:01:43 (UTC-5), Synoptic 1 escribió:
> free plugins just gone, or did not install, i want the apkbuilder of course, google app store does not open though, can you explain? this phone is new. i want the xmltojs plug. reinstall is not working either

Paulo Sergio

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Oct 26, 2019, 2:48:00 AM10/26/19
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Oi Dave será tem como colocar nas linha as numerações das linhas assim fica fácil localizar os erros do códico como tem nas IDEs.
Exemplo:
000
001
002
003
...
320
321

Steve Garman

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Oct 26, 2019, 4:24:57 AM10/26/19
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This topic was posted to discuss the availability and advantages of the Premium Subscription.

If you are posting comments, questions or requests for features in this thread it is unlikely they are being seen by the people you want to see them.

If you have a new question or request, please start a new topic with a meaningful subject so the right people get to see them.

There are guidelines on avoiding hijacking topics at
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/androidscript/GOeffFjx2Tk/GWlj_xyXAwAJ

Tinine

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Dec 1, 2019, 5:27:09 PM12/1/19
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I signed up for Premium right after I installed but this has to be the only forum where I haven't received a reply. Not exactly brimming with confidence.

webtrekker

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Dec 8, 2019, 8:11:03 PM12/8/19
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I have signed up for Premium and payment has been taken, but why are some of the plugins asking for payment? I thought no purchases were required with a Premium subscription?

Also, where is the Premium forum? This forum is the only one I can access.

adrian west

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Dec 10, 2019, 5:07:26 AM12/10/19
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following as I've just joined up and paid and can't find any signs of a communication to that effect or my benefits, etc.

Dave

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Dec 10, 2019, 5:53:15 AM12/10/19
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Sorry guys, we had a temporary glitch with the signup system due to Google retiring an API recently.  It should be fixed now and I've invited you guys to the premium forum manually. 

adrian west

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Dec 10, 2019, 5:55:57 AM12/10/19
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Excellent cheers dave

Jugador Player

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Mar 2, 2020, 3:13:51 PM3/2/20
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Nice! i want join to premium. Thx

Syed Munawer Hassan

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Apr 15, 2020, 1:33:47 AM4/15/20
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I am also facing problem to access premium forum please let me know how to access it

Syed Munawer Hassan

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Apr 15, 2020, 1:43:39 AM4/15/20
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This is better idea allow coders to showcase code snippet for sale

[Backroom-Studio]

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Apr 15, 2020, 9:13:44 PM4/15/20
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Never have received information about how to access the premium forum. ericz...@gmail.com

Thanks

Travis H. Childress

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Jun 4, 2020, 10:14:27 PM6/4/20
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how do we go about finding and joining the premium group? I'm a paid premium user

Steve Garman

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Jun 4, 2020, 11:40:30 PM6/4/20
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You will have been sent an invitation to the Premium group by email when you first subscribed.

If you cannot find the invitation, I suggest you email sup...@droidscript.org saying that you are unable to join the premium group and also including the email address you used when you purchased the subscription.

Wheelie.Tips

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Oct 30, 2021, 8:10:48 AM10/30/21
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I've purchased a premium subscription a few dats back however when trying to login to premium group i get an error message: "Content unavailable", I've also sent an email to sup...@droidscript.org but didn't get any reply nor got an invitation; is there another group for premium subscribers? 
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