Date and time are completely messed up in Android x86 4.0 RC2 ...

[MaheshRSAndroidx86]

All the gory details about this BUG can be found here:

http://code.google.com/p/android-x86/issues/detail?id=940

But, for a quick summary, here is what seems to be happening:

So, I installed android-x86 4.0 rc2.0 on a real system: a samsung n150 netbook. My n150 configuration is as follows: Intel single-core Atom, 2GB RAM, 160GB HDD, 10" screen, Wifi, etc. The entire HDD has been formatted into a single partition and has ext3 file system on it for Android-x86.

During installation I set the system to sync date and time with time servers. I always do this with all my Fedora laptops, so I did that on this system as well.

Well, I was hoping that like with all other systems (all Linux distros, Windows, Mac, Android phones, etc) that support syncing date+time over the net with global time servers, android-x86 4.0 rc2.0 running on the REAL system would be able to sync and then show me the correct and accurate time, BUT THAT IS NOT HAPPENING at least on my system.

I played around with this problem for the past few days and here are various things I have tried:

• I set the time-zone manually. Date+Time sync does NOT work.
  
• I set the time manually and disabled sync. Date+Time sync does NOT work.
  
• I installed clocksync from the Google Play Store. ClockSync tells me that my system's clock is completely off, but, it never sets things correctly. NOTE that the ClockSync display shows the correct date and time when it is set to sync with ntp servers. But, ClockSync is unable to change the date and time on my system even though it has SuperUser access to my system.
  

So, basically, the date and time on Android-x86 4.0 RC 2.0 running on my Samsung N150 netbook are completely off and therefore completely useless. Any help in fixing this problem ASAP would be greatly appreciated. (But, I have a bad feeling that we will have to wait for RC 3.0 for this to work correctly.)

[Chih-Wei Huang]

How did you set up
"sync date and time during installation"?
I don't think our installer has this feature.

If you meant the auto time in the Settings,
it won't work. The feature only works on
a real phone - it syncs time from your operator.


2012/8/7 MaheshRSAndroidx86 <mahes...@gmail.com>:

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[MaheshRSAndroidx86]

CWHuang himself!!!???? Cool! Thanks a lot for looking into this issue. And thanks for the reply.

Yes, you are right. I chose the "auto sync" option at install.

It is ok if auto sync doesn't work (although I would wonder why it wouldn't work on a PC but it would work on a phone), but, why are my date+time completely off the mark??? :( And why does the time shown in the status bar never get updated? :(

More importantly, how do I fix this now? Any tips would be greatly appreciated. 

As mentioned earlier, none of my other antics (ClockSync app, manually setting the time-zone+date+time, etc) generated a favorable result. I would really like to see time-in-status-bar being updated regularly, my "clock app" working nicely and firing alarms at my chosen time, and my notes not being dated+timed randomly (on evernote, atkpad, etc).

Anxiously waiting for your reply.

Rgds

Mahesh

[Chih-Wei Huang]

Android implements time auto sync by signals
from the mobile network (gsm or cdma).
You may read the code in NetworkTimeUpdateService.java
to understand how it works.
On android-x86 unless you have a working 3G modem,
it won't work.

For the other problems you describe,
I never encountered. My time is correct
and updated regularly (provided the
BIOS time is correct).
I never try ClockSync.

2012/8/9 MaheshRSAndroidx86 <mahes...@gmail.com>:

> CWHuang himself!!!???? Cool! Thanks a lot for looking into this issue. And
> thanks for the reply.
>
> Yes, you are right. I chose the "auto sync" option at install.
>
> It is ok if auto sync doesn't work (although I would wonder why it wouldn't
> work on a PC but it would work on a phone), but, why are my date+time
> completely off the mark??? :( And why does the time shown in the status bar
> never get updated? :(
>
> More importantly, how do I fix this now? Any tips would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> As mentioned earlier, none of my other antics (ClockSync app, manually
> setting the time-zone+date+time, etc) generated a favorable result. I would
> really like to see time-in-status-bar being updated regularly, my "clock
> app" working nicely and firing alarms at my chosen time, and my notes not
> being dated+timed randomly (on evernote, atkpad, etc).

[Mahesh RS]

OK! I am going to try this: I am going to COMPLETELY reinstall the system. I am also going to reset the time in my BIOS (I have set the BIOS time to GMT, but the system time zone is different).

And then, I will report back here.

Till then ....

Thanks CWHuang for (1) not just for replying to this thread but (2) for creating the fantastic, usable and fun Android-x86 ...

Rgds

Mahesh

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[Amogh Harish]

Please note that you should be connected to a mobile network for the time and date sync. On my x86, I was connected to a WiFi adhoc(my android phone) while setting up the computer.

I have never encountered such a problem in any version of Android x86 so far. Please also note that Ethernet tethering is not supported on x86 3.2 and above. So if you had plugged in the Ethernet cable expecting it to connect, then I'm pretty sure it won't work.

Android x86, like everyother OS syncs the time and date via the BIOS. So if you have chosen a different time zone in the BIOS, it will update with that particular time zone.

Hope you succeed with your latest installation.

Amogh

[Mahesh RS]

amogh,

Thanks for the info. Yes, I am connected to the Internet 24x7.

Rgds

Mahesh

[Amogh Harish]

Anytime.

Amogh

[MaheshRSAndroidx86]

Alright! Installed Android x86 4.0 RC2 Tega v2 on my Samsung N150 netbook 3 times and at all times I am seeing a very simple thing: time and date ARE messed up, at least on my netbook.

I convinced a few friends to install Android x86 on their netbooks. I even asked a person I got to know on G+ to check the time on his Android x86 installations. 2 of these people are using a Dell Mini, one is using an AMD Brazos based ISO to run on his ASUS net/note-book and 3 are using the standard ASUS Eee PC Android-x86 ISO to run on their ASUS Atom based netbooks. And none of them are seeing any problem with date and time on their installations, so this has to be something in my setup! (I am very sad at this point in time!)

Just for your reference, here are the things I tried: I did a clean install of Android x86 4.0 RC2 Tega v2 on my Samsung N150 netbook with NO autosync enabled at installation time. 

Install #1: Clock and date set manually

Install #2: Clock and date untouched ... whatever it picked up from the BIOS is what it got

Install #3: Same as #2 but with network sync enabled in "Settings" (no extra apps this time)

I can assure you the following:

1. The time display in the status bar NEVER UPDATES. Whatever time it picks up at boot up time is what it shows ... forever till I shutdown the netbook.

2. The stock clock app (preinstalled with Android x86 4.0 RC2 Tega v2) shows a time that updates EVERY 5 minutes!! So, if it shows 12:12 pm, then it jumps to 12:17 pm after 5 minutes, then to 12:22 pm after another 5 minutes ... and so on.

3. Alarms set in the stock clock app NEVER fire!

Looks like I will have to revert the netbook to Fedora/Ubuntu installation. And looks like the netbook is going to go back onto the shelf ... unused for some more time!! :(   

But, I really liked the Android x86 4.0 RC2 Tega v2. If only time had worked better on my Samsung N150, I would have been thrilled. I am looking forward to trying out the next version of Android x86.

Thanks a lot CWH for creating a fantastic and fun and "actually useful" implementation of Android for x86. I will try it again in the next release.

Rgds

Mahesh

[Amogh Harish]

I'm not sure of the exact BIOS menu on Samsung's. Never used one. If you can send me a picture of it on G+(You added me), I'll see what I can do to rectify that problem.

Amogh

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[Jim]

I'm having the same issue on my Acer D255E netbook.  Also using the Tega v2 iso.  My BIOS only has entries for time and date, no place to input time zone.  Keeps and updates time correctly when booted to Windows 8 Release Preview.  However, when booted to Android, both the clock in the lower right and the big clock refuse to update.  The system is keeping correct time as any downloads have the correct time stamp, but the displayed clocks are not updating.  Neither do they update when I manually change the time.  I'm willing to run some experiments if anyone has recommendations.

Thanks!

[Mahesh RS]

Thx Jim for reporting the problem here.

Let's hope this gets fixed soon.

Rgds
Mahesh

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[Jim]

Some more details that may aid in the hunt for root cause:

* the app Alarm Clock Xtreme will come up with the proper time when activated, but will not advance

* the live wallpaper Neon Clock GL does keep the proper time though (built-in clock in lower right appears to be stuck, never advances)

[Steven]

I can confirm this issue. I have the Dell Duo with Android X86 4.0 RC2 installed.  I have the same odd clock issues.  here are some additional notes:

Clock widgets will show whatever time they are setup.  if you remove and re-ad them then the time will be updated, but they will not continue to update.

Clock in the settings menu (system/date & time) shows the correct time and date each time you go into the settings menu.  however, it does not update if you leave the settings screen open. 

I assume that it grabs the bios time and displays the time when the settings are displayed but there is some basic background task that keeps the clocks updated that is not running.

[Tim Kowalsky]

I've installed the tegav2 ISO of the ICS R2 on an ExoPC.  I see the same clock freezing issue.  The clock does not update.

May be unrelated, but I'm also seeing problems with screen rotation.  If an app forces the screen to rotate from landscape to portrait, the screen doesn't rotate back to landscape. 
-  I have to open the full Settings application, and go to Display.  I have to toggle Auto Rotation off, then on again. 
-  Toggling Auto Rotation off then on again, in the pull up menu from the status bar, does nothing when this happens.

[Mahesh RS]

Interesting find Tim, about the screen rotation issue.

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[Tim Kowalsky]

I've done a complete wipe, and reformat the hard drive on my ExoPC, then reinstalled the tegav2 ICS R2.  I still see the same three problems:

 

1.  The clock in the status bar does not update, at all.  The same is true for widgets that show the time.

 

2.  The rotation issue I mentioned above.  (When forced to portait by an app, the screen sticks in portrait.)

 

3.  If I go to Google Play, I see all of my previously used apps.  However, any app I previously purchased now shows the price again.  If I attempt to re-purchase any of these apps, Google Play gives me an error message.  Google Play will not let me install previously purchased apps.  Free apps are all available.  Free apps can be downloaded, and installed, successfully.

 

Is there any possibility we might see an update to address the problems with the tegav2 ICS RC2? 

[Winner61]

Same behaviour on my Viewpad10. Just put in a new CR-2032 battery so it keeps the bios time but the next day it's seems to be drained allready, anybody else here with that issue?
If the time is not correct I can not connect to the market and many other quirks.
I can not set the time manually and with ClockSync it does not sync the internal time but funny enough the other way around, so the atomic time (in the app ofcourse ;-).)

[Mark Bunds]

I can also confirm this behavior on a Dell Inspiron Duo. The clock never updates on its own, but if I manually rotate the screen from portrait to landscape, or vice-versa, the clock updates. The clock also updates if I go to settings, and then change the time zone to another, and back. If it weren't for the clock and accelerometer, I would consider RC2 fully functional for the Duo.

[Winner61]

The latest build from tabletsx86.org does not have this issue. It works very well but on that build there is no calendar for some reason. Does anyone know why?
Thanks.

[Mahesh RS]

Thanks for this update Winner61. I will check out the tabletsx86 release.

On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Winner61 <winfryd....@gmail.com> wrote:

The latest build from tabletsx86.org does not have this issue. It works very well but on that build there is no calendar for some reason. Does anyone know why?
Thanks.

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[Stefan Matthäus]

I have WeTab which is the same as ExoPc and I am running the latest build from wetab-community.de and there no problem with the clock. That build is based on 4.0.4 rc2 tegav2 device tree.

(The only thing is that the clock widget on the homescreen crashes and restart just after login)

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