error message "Unfortunately, System UI has stopped" on android-x86-4.0-devel-amd_brazos

[Jo Ma]

Hey,

I'm trying to run the android-x86-4.0-devel-amd_brazos-build on a
Tablet PC (Intel® Atom™ 1,6 GHz, 2GB RAM).
I can boot the system and select "Live CD - Run Android-x86 without
installation".
But when the Welcome screen is launched immediately a warning message
("Unfortunately, System UI has stopped") pops up. On clicking okay,
the message appears again and again.

On starting in debug mode I get (after pressing exit several times)
the following error message (repeated several times):
init: no such service 'hciattach'
binder: 1119:1130 transaction failed 29189, size 96-0
binder: 1119:1419 transaction failed 29189, size 176-0
init: no such service 'h iattach'
binder: release 1631:1641 transaction 15078 in, still active
binder: send failed reply for transaction 15078 to 1890:1890
In the background I can see the welcome screen now.

What can I do?

Another question: The "latest unstable nightly build", on which
android version are they based?

Thank you in advance
Jo

[Chih-Wei Huang]

Didn't I say this is an iso for *AMD* platform, not work for Intel's?

2011/12/2 Jo Ma <jome...@googlemail.com>:

[ady2k10]

I got same error message to run android-x86 4.0
I didn't think this error message is related with AMD or Intel
Processor.
There is something wrong with Java apps service on android-x86 4.0
Processor problem can't run android-x86 4.0 during booting process.

On Dec 2, 5:53 pm, Chih-Wei Huang <cwhu...@android-x86.org> wrote:
> Didn't I say this is an iso for *AMD* platform, not work for Intel's?
>

> 2011/12/2 Jo Ma <jomex...@googlemail.com>:

[Rinaldo Jonathan]

why do you don't make it for intel? many from us using intel, not AMD!

2011/12/2, ady2k10 <ady0...@gmail.com>:

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[chemstar]

i do have a e-350 AMD and the same problem
had to start with HWACCEL=0 and nomodeset

On Dec 2, 2:35 pm, Rinaldo Jonathan <rinaldo.jonat...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> why do you don't make it for intel? many from us using intel, not AMD!
>

> 2011/12/2, ady2k10 <ady080...@gmail.com>:

[Stephan Aßmus]

Am 02.12.2011 11:53 schrieb "Chih-Wei Huang" <cwh...@android-x86.org>:
>
> Didn't I say this is an iso for *AMD* platform, not work for Intel's?

I have checked out the repository last night. I am only aware of this project since yesterday. When you say, the image is only for the AMD platform, is this only a matter of which target you have built this for, and can we build for other targets, or is the problem that the port is not yet complete for other targets? At the moment, I have not tried to compile yet, also because I read later that a 32 bit host is not supported for compiling ICS.

Best regards,
Stephan

[Sayem]

I have the same issue! My processor is Intel Core 2 Quad, need a
solution please.

Thank you

[Brian burenheide]

Can you run an android AMD build on Intel chipset?
Please correct me if I'm wrong, as it just didnt seem right when i
read it.

[Chih-Wei Huang]

I've said this iso only supports AMD platform.
Ics-x86 doesn't support Intel platform yet.

2011/12/2 ady2k10 <ady0...@gmail.com>:

[Chih-Wei Huang]

2011/12/2 Rinaldo Jonathan <rinaldo....@gmail.com>:

> why do you don't make it for intel? many from us using intel, not AMD!

Well, I also care about Intel, but Intel don't care us.

Complain to Intel, please.

--
Chih-Wei
Android-x86 project
http://www.android-x86.org

[Chih-Wei Huang]

As I have explained in another thread, we still have trouble to bring up
ics-x86 on an Intel video chipset.

If you'd like to help, get the ics-x86 source and build a target
for Intel platform (e.g., eeepc, tegav2), then debug it.
Contributions are always welcome.

2011/12/2 Stephan Aßmus <super...@googlemail.com>:

[Stephan Aßmus]

On 02.12.2011 19:40, Chih-Wei Huang wrote:
> As I have explained in another thread, we still have trouble to bring up
> ics-x86 on an Intel video chipset.

Ok, at first you had me confused, since I didn't understand whether you
are talking about compiling for Intel *CPUs* or for Intel *chipsets* or
Intel *video chipset* in particular.

> If you'd like to help, get the ics-x86 source and build a target
> for Intel platform (e.g., eeepc, tegav2), then debug it.
> Contributions are always welcome.

I am considering that. But in general, I appear to be lacking some basic
understanding. Before I ask any dumb/obvious questions, can you point me
to some Android architecture documentation/overview which would explain
how the software stack is set up and layered? To be more specific, I
know that Android uses the Linux kernel. From the HowToCustomizeKernel
documdentation on android-x86.org, I am digesting that Linux device
drivers are also used (no surprise there, I guess), but I don't
understand why it is difficult to make Android run on hardware that
works just fine using popular Linux distributions. I must be missing
some crucial information. Is it that Xorg drivers in particular are not
helpful in running Android? I know too little about the layering and
separation between Linux kernel graphics drivers and the X server. I
assume Android does not use X, but does that also mean the graphics
drivers can't be used? Other Android-x86 versions seem to support a
generic VESA video driver. Is that not usable for ICS? I've read on the
AOSP site that ICS requires 2D hardware acceleration, but why can't it
be faked?

Best regards,
-Stephan

[Yi Sun]

Trying to answer u question in a simpler way--android does not use X server and other than kernel , android has it own user sw stack. You should be able to find answer for most of you questions in www.android.com

[rinaldo....@gmail.com]

I want to ask...
1. Are you eat from this project?
2. What do AMD care about this project?
3. What do Intel do not care about the project? Are they using your android-x86 without your permission?
4. If you can make it work with early builds, like froyo or gingerbread, why you can't make it with ICS?
5. If you want I complain to intel, what should I say?
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[fuzzy7k]

Forgive me as these questions were not directed at me, but I've seen
Chih-Wei answer most of them already.

> 1. Are you eat from this project?

???

> 2. What do AMD care about this project?

AMD has donated test boards and engineering assistance.

> 3. What do Intel do not care about the project? Are they using your android-x86 without your permission?

Intel has their own android project. They don't care about opening it
up and refuse to answer support questions.

> 4. If you can make it work with early builds, like froyo or gingerbread, why you can't make it with ICS?

Things change between builds. It's not an issue ability. It's an issue
of time, and assistance. Google just release the code a couple weeks
ago, and unlike AMD, Intel has not helped a bit.

> 5. If you want I complain to intel, what should I say?

If you want to complain, sell your intel hardware and buy AMD.

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> 2011/12/2 Rinaldo Jonathan <rinaldo.jonat...@gmail.com>:

> > why do you don't make it for intel? many from us using intel, not AMD!
>
> Well, I also care about Intel, but Intel don't care us.
>
> Complain to Intel, please.
>
> --
> Chih-Wei

> Android-x86 projecthttp://www.android-x86.org

[rinaldo....@gmail.com]

The first question, I think we don't need to answer it again, because now I know that amd donating test boards and engineering assistance.... Not money... :D because the first time I think amd is donating some money, and.... Just think yourself :D

But for question number 5, it is not a good idea...
Because who want to buy my dell laptop? Bad sector hard disk, scratch, and ....
I think it is better not to talk about my dell :D or can I just change the processor, not sell the laptop?

[Stephan Aßmus]

Hi,

[Reformatted to show context -- what's with all the top-posting?]

On 02.12.2011 23:28, Yi Sun wrote:

> On Dec 2, 2011, at 1:11 PM, Stephan A�mus<super...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> On 02.12.2011 19:40, Chih-Wei Huang wrote:
>>> If you'd like to help, get the ics-x86 source and build a target
>>> for Intel platform (e.g., eeepc, tegav2), then debug it.
>>> Contributions are always welcome.
>>
>> I am considering that. But in general, I appear to be lacking some basic understanding. Before I ask any dumb/obvious questions, can you point me to some Android architecture documentation/overview which would explain how the software stack is set up and layered? To be more specific, I know that Android uses the Linux kernel. From the HowToCustomizeKernel documdentation on android-x86.org, I am digesting that Linux device drivers are also used (no surprise there, I guess), but I don't understand why it is difficult to make Android run on hardware that works just fine using popular Linux distributions. I must be missing some crucial information. Is it that Xorg drivers in particular are not helpful in running Android? I know too little about the layering and separation between Linux kernel graphics drivers and the X server. I assume Android does not use X, but does that also mean the graphics drivers can't be used? Other Android-x86 versions seem to support a generic VESA v
ideo driver. Is that not usable for ICS? I've read on the AOSP site that ICS requires 2D hardware acceleration, but why can't it be faked?
>

> Trying to answer u question in a simpler way--android does not use X
server and other than kernel , android has it own user sw stack. You
should be able to find answer for most of you questions in www.android.com

Unfortunately, even though I have dug through all of that site
yesterday, I did not find a comprehensive article on the relation
between the Linux kernel, graphics driver and the Android graphics
stack. I am aware that Android has a completely different user land
software stack. There is plenty of documentation out there on that. But
whereever I came across some introduction to the Android architecture,
it quickly skips over the Linux kernel stuff to tell you about the
services which run and Dalvik and all that stuff. I have not yet found a
single article that would go into details about graphics drivers on
Android. So I still have no clue why it is difficult to support the
graphics hardware in my PCs on Android-x86 that is perfectly support by
regular Linux distributions. So any pointers to some insightful articles
would be greatly appreciated.

Best regards,
-Stephan

[chentiangemalc]

i'm going to have a go at this...do a lot of debugging stuff on other
platforms, but first time android attempt. i have Fujitsu q550 which
is based on Intel Atom, and would like to try and make a build run on
it.

On Dec 3, 5:40 am, Chih-Wei Huang <cwhu...@android-x86.org> wrote:
> As I have explained in another thread, we still have trouble to bring up
> ics-x86 on an Intel video chipset.
>
> If you'd like to help, get the ics-x86 source and build a target
> for Intel platform (e.g., eeepc, tegav2), then debug it.
> Contributions are always welcome.
>

> 2011/12/2 Stephan Aßmus <supersti...@googlemail.com>:

[Stephan Aßmus]

Am 03.12.2011 13:17 schrieb "tabletsx86" <rbg.tab...@gmail.com>:
>
> http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/graphics/index.html

This link points at developer documentation and explains available APIs and different approaches. I didn't see any mention of the backend behind those APIs, i.e. the Linux layer.

Best regards,
Stephan

[Chih-Wei Huang]

About question 1, if you asked whether if we live by this project,
I can say that's none of your business.
But if you're just curious, let me tell you.

We have run the android-x86 project over two years. What
I have earned from this project in the two years include

* Several devices donated from different vendors
(totally 7 tablets, if I remember correctly)
If you're curious what AMD donated, they gave us
two tablets, one for me and another for the multitouch developer.
AMD promised to send me more tablets for development,
but I haven't seen them yet.
Until now no vendor donate any money to us.
* Some donation from individuals to the Paypal account,
average $US 10 per month.
* Revenue from Google AdSense. But I don't handle
that part so I don't know the exact number.

Do you think we can live by it?

I have a job, a not bad job.
I do this project just for fun. It's my hobby.
That's why I can't spend much time on it.
If I can spend 18hr a day on this project,
it would be much better and successful.
Even say that, I still spent 5~6hr to work on
ics-x86 porting recently. I've little sleep.
I'm so sleepy now but I still need spend time
to answer such a sxxxxd question.

On the other hand, I do know some people live by
this project. For example, the BlueStacks just announce
the App Player which is based on Android-x86.
I heard they have got a big contract from AMD,
and millions of dollars from VC.
Anyway, that's not my business.
(maybe they should pay me as a consultant? hahaha!)

Besides, other vendors like Viewsonic also shipped Android-x86 based
products, but they still refused to contribute back anything.

About question 5, you probably have no idea what Intel
have said. One and half a year ago, some news said Intel
will bring froyo (android 2.2) to x86 world. I haven't seen it yet.
Later Intel said they will bring android 2.3, 3.x to x86.
Nothing happened. Recently I also see CEO of Intel said
they are a partner of Google and will bring android 4.0 (ics)
to x86 platform. Seems he goes back on his word again.

On the other hand, the project, Android-x86.org, is the only
project that brings each Android release to x86 platform
since cupcake two years ago.

IMO, if Intel could put just a little of resource on this project,
e.g., two full time engineers to work with us, the project
would be much more successful, and Intel probably
has already shipped many android products.

I do know some people want to run android on their x86
tablet or netbook. That's why you join this forum, isn't it?
But Intel don't really care that.
Now you know what to complain to Intel???

The other questions are answered by others, thanks!

2011/12/3 <rinaldo....@gmail.com>:

> I want to ask...
> 1. Are you eat from this project?
> 2. What do AMD care about this project?
> 3. What do Intel do not care about the project? Are they using your android-x86 without your permission?
> 4. If you can make it work with early builds, like froyo or gingerbread, why you can't make it with ICS?
> 5. If you want I complain to intel, what should I say?

--

[ShadowEO]

That sucks that BlueStacks and ViewSonic won't contribute things back.
I noticed BlueStacks was using Android-x86 while I was trying to
modify the root fs. I agree that Intel should help, they never finish
their builds of Android and instead leave it to you guys and I've seen
a couple pages that Intel has said that a port of Android was
completed, then put a link redirecting to Android-x86. I love this
project, I really do.

I thank you for all your hard work Chih-Wei and the rest.

> 2011/12/3  <rinaldo.jonat...@gmail.com>:

[Yi Sun]

All these web pages only tell you the starter's info , if you want to learn more, you will have to start to dig in the code.

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[rinaldo....@gmail.com]

Ok, it is the time to change to the AMD processor!

But, what is sxxxxd?

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[TornadoX]

im trying to run it on my laptop with amd athlon II 2.33 and ati 6650
and it hangs

> 2011/12/3  <rinaldo.jonat...@gmail.com>:

> > I want to ask...
> > 1. Are you eat from this project?
> > 2. What do AMD care about this project?
> > 3. What do Intel do not care about the project? Are they using your android-x86 without your permission?
> > 4. If you can make it work with early builds, like froyo or gingerbread, why you can't make it with ICS?
> > 5. If you want I complain to intel, what should I say?
>
> --
> Chih-Wei

> Android-x86 projecthttp://www.android-x86.org

[Allan Salvati]

For the System UI error, just type "pm disable com.android.systemui" on console or terminal.

You can do the same with "com.android.vending".

I've managed to run on a Core2 Duo notebook and Core i5 desktop.

Obviously there bugs but you can use ICS GUI without too many errors.

[Scott]

sxxxxd = sTUPId

> 2011/12/3  <rinaldo.jonat...@gmail.com>:

> > I want to ask...
> > 1. Are you eat from this project?
> > 2. What do AMD care about this project?
> > 3. What do Intel do not care about the project? Are they using your android-x86 without your permission?
> > 4. If you can make it work with early builds, like froyo or gingerbread, why you can't make it with ICS?
> > 5. If you want I complain to intel, what should I say?
>
> --
> Chih-Wei

> Android-x86 projecthttp://www.android-x86.org

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[Patrick Lefevre]

ics-x86 builds fine, but depending on platform has the symptoms
outlined above, but still it's great; at least emulator runs fast.
Question;
- assuming one can build a kernel with drm accel which boots on
target, can you point to integration [ie patches] required to
integrate into ics tree? This may not be the only issue, but I would
start there.
Best regards. -Pat
-

[Chih-Wei Huang]

All necessary changes are already in ics-x86 tree.
No other patch is required.

If you or anyone else has patches to fix some issues,
please send to the list for review.
I'll integrate them if applicable.

[www.rzr.online.fr]

Are those AMD based tablets products availables in mass market or for
developers ?

Also can you suggest some other open communities close to AMD ?

Regards