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More Google Pixel devices to be compatible with the upcoming "Boot with 16KB page size" developer option

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Horácio Filho

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Aug 26, 2024, 8:48:37 AM8/26/24
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Hello,

I just read the announcement that Android 15 QPR1 Beta will offer the "Boot with 16KB page size" developer option. That is great, thank you for that. However, it is frustrating to see only Pixel 8 and Pixel 8 Pro there. Not even Pixel 6, which has a custom Android 13 16K system image being mentioned in the official documentation, is in the list of supported devices. Is there any chance of seeing more Pixel devices offering the "Boot with 16KB page size" developer option in the near future? Thank you in advance.

Obrigado.

Dan Albert

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Aug 26, 2024, 3:27:46 PM8/26/24
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Steven Moreland

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Aug 26, 2024, 4:20:32 PM8/26/24
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Hi. There is the emulator option, which is what I would recommend at this time.

There is a POC 16 KB Pixel 6/6 Pro build available, though it's aimed at platform developers, and several OS components will be failing and some hardware does not work in this mode. I do not recommend it compared to the emulator unless you are familiar with Android platform development:
https://source.android.com/docs/core/architecture/16kb-page-size/flash-pixel6-with-16kb-kernel

For a developer option quality build, you should not expect it on devices older than Pixel 8. Though I can't share schedules for other devices at this time, thank you for your interest in 16 KB!

Horácio Filho

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Aug 26, 2024, 4:38:08 PM8/26/24
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Hello Steven,

Thank you for the feedback. Please not even Pixel 7a could be included in the list? That device is just 5 months older than Pixel 8 :(

Obrigado.

John Dallman

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Aug 29, 2024, 4:52:21 AM8/29/24
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> There is the emulator option, which is what I would recommend at this time.

Is there a guide to setting up the emulator on Linux from the command line? I couldn't get the emulator to work when I was starting on Android work, five years ago, and have not tried since. I am partially sighted and find IDEs extremely confusing, so I don't try to use them anymore. Any method that relies on Android Studio is going to be harder for me than you can readily believe. 

Thanks,

John

Dan Albert

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Aug 29, 2024, 3:31:54 PM8/29/24
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https://developer.android.com/tools/avdmanager creates them, and then they can be launched with <SDK>/tools/emulator (see --help, those docs don't appear to be online). I've gone that route before and found it to be a bit of a pain in the ass to work out which arguments I needed to launch the emulator in the mode I wanted, but once you've got those figured out it works fine until something changes.

John Dallman

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Nov 15, 2024, 10:15:29 AM11/15/24
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Hi, Dan, 

A different group wants to do 16KB pages before me, but the intern who's been given the job is very shy. Where in the hierarchy of settings should I tell them to look for the page size setting? I can't find it in the web pages.    

Thanks,

John 

Dan Albert

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Nov 15, 2024, 4:02:54 PM11/15/24
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Steven Moreland

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Nov 15, 2024, 5:17:08 PM11/15/24
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Hi - it would be under the developer settings. Which device is this? You would need to use the Android 15 QPR1 Beta at this point on Pixel 8/8 Pro now. More options and devices are coming soon.

For more options and a screenshot of the settings, see also our guide here:
https://developer.android.com/16kb-page-size

John Dallman

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Nov 19, 2024, 12:50:49 PM11/19/24
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