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Hielko
Apr 7, 2008, 8:25:29 AM4/7/08
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How many submissions will there be for the first round of the Android
Challenge? I think it will be in the neighborhood of one thousend
submissions, what do you think? Make an educated guess.
Challenge? I think it will be in the neighborhood of one thousend
submissions, what do you think? Make an educated guess.
Muthuselvam Ramadoss
Apr 7, 2008, 8:37:46 AM4/7/08
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around 10k is my uneducated guess. ofcourse, i'll change this soon ;)--
take care,
Muthu Ramadoss.
http://mobeegal.in - find stuff closer.
take care,
Muthu Ramadoss.
http://mobeegal.in - find stuff closer.
Kornelius Tuggerson
Apr 7, 2008, 11:47:48 AM4/7/08
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In the previous post about the number of entries it was estimated that
there would be about 300 viable entries that don't crash and actually
do something useful. That sounds about right to me.
http://groups.google.com/group/android-challenge/browse_thread/thread/61b536656d60aba2/56399fc25b4ec0dd?lnk=gst&q=geocast#56399fc25b4ec0dd
On Apr 7, 8:37 am, "Muthuselvam Ramadoss" <muthu.ramad...@gmail.com>
wrote:
there would be about 300 viable entries that don't crash and actually
do something useful. That sounds about right to me.
http://groups.google.com/group/android-challenge/browse_thread/thread/61b536656d60aba2/56399fc25b4ec0dd?lnk=gst&q=geocast#56399fc25b4ec0dd
On Apr 7, 8:37 am, "Muthuselvam Ramadoss" <muthu.ramad...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Muthuselvam Ramadoss
Apr 7, 2008, 12:06:38 PM4/7/08
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10000 vs 300
that's a huge gap.. proves my estimate is really an uneducated guess!
that's a huge gap.. proves my estimate is really an uneducated guess!
Peli
Apr 7, 2008, 1:17:34 PM4/7/08
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Note that the previous guess was done prior to the deadline extension
from March to April.
It is nevertheless interesting to see how the competition evolved:
These are the numbers from January 5:
Number of members in the various forums:
Android Beginners. 2072
Android Developers: 6803
Android Internals: 966
Android Challenge: 1308
Android Discuss: 855
anddev.org: 585
And these are the numbers as of today, April 7, one week before the
new deadline:
Android Beginners. 3478 (+68%)
Android Developers: 8573 (+26%)
Android Internals: 1510 (+56%)
Android Challenge: 1984 (+52%)
Android Discuss: 1300 (+52%)
anddev.org: 1876 (+220%)
First of all, this means that anddev.org did a marvellous job in
increasing their user base! :-)
More interestingly, the developer's forum grew slower than all other
forums! This may actually indicate that the developer's forums number
has been overestimated at the beginning. This comes as no surprise, as
the original forum was only the developer's forum, and that split into
the other groups. Subtracting a constant 3500 members from developer's
forum results in a comparable increase as the other forums
((8573-3500) / (6803-3500) = +53%).
50% increase over the last 13 weeks corresponds to roughly 20% over
the last 6 weeks. So increasing the deadline by 6 weeks merely
resulted in maybe 20% more applications submitted than would have been
submitted already in March (just talking about the number of
applications - not their quality!)
Adding the 20% to the 250 non-trivial working applications in the
original post, you end up with 300 applications mentioned above :-)
If you have a working application that is not completely trivial,
chances of winning in the first round are roughly 1/6 (meaning if you
have 5 friends who submit, one of them or yourself may actually win).
Peli
PS: Do I have 5 friends in this forum who have non-trivial working
applications, but think they can not win? :-)
On Apr 7, 6:06 pm, "Muthuselvam Ramadoss" <muthu.ramad...@gmail.com>
wrote:
from March to April.
It is nevertheless interesting to see how the competition evolved:
These are the numbers from January 5:
Number of members in the various forums:
Android Beginners. 2072
Android Developers: 6803
Android Internals: 966
Android Challenge: 1308
Android Discuss: 855
anddev.org: 585
And these are the numbers as of today, April 7, one week before the
new deadline:
Android Beginners. 3478 (+68%)
Android Developers: 8573 (+26%)
Android Internals: 1510 (+56%)
Android Challenge: 1984 (+52%)
Android Discuss: 1300 (+52%)
anddev.org: 1876 (+220%)
First of all, this means that anddev.org did a marvellous job in
increasing their user base! :-)
More interestingly, the developer's forum grew slower than all other
forums! This may actually indicate that the developer's forums number
has been overestimated at the beginning. This comes as no surprise, as
the original forum was only the developer's forum, and that split into
the other groups. Subtracting a constant 3500 members from developer's
forum results in a comparable increase as the other forums
((8573-3500) / (6803-3500) = +53%).
50% increase over the last 13 weeks corresponds to roughly 20% over
the last 6 weeks. So increasing the deadline by 6 weeks merely
resulted in maybe 20% more applications submitted than would have been
submitted already in March (just talking about the number of
applications - not their quality!)
Adding the 20% to the 250 non-trivial working applications in the
original post, you end up with 300 applications mentioned above :-)
If you have a working application that is not completely trivial,
chances of winning in the first round are roughly 1/6 (meaning if you
have 5 friends who submit, one of them or yourself may actually win).
Peli
PS: Do I have 5 friends in this forum who have non-trivial working
applications, but think they can not win? :-)
On Apr 7, 6:06 pm, "Muthuselvam Ramadoss" <muthu.ramad...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> 10000 vs 300
>
> that's a huge gap.. proves my estimate is really an uneducated guess!
>
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 9:17 PM, Kornelius Tuggerson <
>
>
>
> victor.seme...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > In the previous post about the number of entries it was estimated that
> > there would be about 300 viable entries that don't crash and actually
> > do something useful. That sounds about right to me.
>
> >http://groups.google.com/group/android-challenge/browse_thread/thread...
>
> that's a huge gap.. proves my estimate is really an uneducated guess!
>
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 9:17 PM, Kornelius Tuggerson <
>
>
>
> victor.seme...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > In the previous post about the number of entries it was estimated that
> > there would be about 300 viable entries that don't crash and actually
> > do something useful. That sounds about right to me.
>
>
> > On Apr 7, 8:37 am, "Muthuselvam Ramadoss" <muthu.ramad...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > around 10k is my uneducated guess. ofcourse, i'll change this soon ;)
>
> > > On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 5:55 PM, Hielko <hie...@tweakers.net> wrote:
>
> > > > How many submissions will there be for the first round of the Android
> > > > Challenge? I think it will be in the neighborhood of one thousend
> > > > submissions, what do you think? Make an educated guess.
>
> > > --
> > > take care,
> > > Muthu Ramadoss.
>
> > >http://mobeegal.in-find stuff closer.
> > On Apr 7, 8:37 am, "Muthuselvam Ramadoss" <muthu.ramad...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > around 10k is my uneducated guess. ofcourse, i'll change this soon ;)
>
> > > On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 5:55 PM, Hielko <hie...@tweakers.net> wrote:
>
> > > > How many submissions will there be for the first round of the Android
> > > > Challenge? I think it will be in the neighborhood of one thousend
> > > > submissions, what do you think? Make an educated guess.
>
> > > --
> > > take care,
> > > Muthu Ramadoss.
>
Muthuselvam Ramadoss
Apr 7, 2008, 1:29:18 PM4/7/08
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Peli,
What an analysis, WOW!
ADC Judges, You don't have to look at Peli's submission. Go ahead and award him the prize, right now :)
What an analysis, WOW!
ADC Judges, You don't have to look at Peli's submission. Go ahead and award him the prize, right now :)
Kornelius Tuggerson
Apr 7, 2008, 2:08:56 PM4/7/08
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If my entry doesn't win ill be looking to contribute to a winning open
source ADC project in hopes of getting a share of the Round 2 winnings
there. And if I do win I'll be looking for quality developers who
weren't as lucky as me! There is just no end to the programming in
sight!
On Apr 7, 1:29 pm, "Muthuselvam Ramadoss" <muthu.ramad...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> > > > >http://mobeegal.in-findstuff closer.
source ADC project in hopes of getting a share of the Round 2 winnings
there. And if I do win I'll be looking for quality developers who
weren't as lucky as me! There is just no end to the programming in
sight!
On Apr 7, 1:29 pm, "Muthuselvam Ramadoss" <muthu.ramad...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Peli
Apr 7, 2008, 4:41:47 PM4/7/08
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Careful: The ADC terms and conditions may prohibit exactly what you
suggest:
Section 3, special note:
"... In addition, once a team has registered, the team may not add,
remove, or substitute member or otherwise change the composition of
the team for the duration of the Challenge. ..."
Funnily, this phrase is absent for single contributor or business
entity. It is obvious that business entities can change the
composition of the team "behind the scenes". But does this mean that
also single contributors can add developers after round I? On the
other hand, section 8 says explicitely: "The Second Round of the
Challenge is open only to Participants who received a Qualifying
Grant."
The apparent advantage for business entities has been pointed out
here:
http://groups.google.com/group/android-challenge/browse_frm/thread/c48a4b84076a6e61
Peli
On Apr 7, 8:08 pm, Kornelius Tuggerson <victor.seme...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> >http://mobeegal.in-find stuff closer.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -
suggest:
Section 3, special note:
"... In addition, once a team has registered, the team may not add,
remove, or substitute member or otherwise change the composition of
the team for the duration of the Challenge. ..."
Funnily, this phrase is absent for single contributor or business
entity. It is obvious that business entities can change the
composition of the team "behind the scenes". But does this mean that
also single contributors can add developers after round I? On the
other hand, section 8 says explicitely: "The Second Round of the
Challenge is open only to Participants who received a Qualifying
Grant."
The apparent advantage for business entities has been pointed out
here:
http://groups.google.com/group/android-challenge/browse_frm/thread/c48a4b84076a6e61
Peli
On Apr 7, 8:08 pm, Kornelius Tuggerson <victor.seme...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> - Show quoted text -
YA
Apr 7, 2008, 6:21:12 PM4/7/08
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Peli: a lot of these people might be readers, rather than coders, plus
we need to factor in team factor. Public catalogs right now have less
than 50 completed programs, and I doubt many latecomers will have time
to create something complete. On the other side, many of those who
hang out in android groups contribute more than one.
What we do not know is how many corporations and startups are out
there. I represent a corporation, Sadko Mobile ( http://sadko.mobi/ ).
Are there any other known Android corporates?
> > > >http://mobeegal.in-findstuff closer.
we need to factor in team factor. Public catalogs right now have less
than 50 completed programs, and I doubt many latecomers will have time
to create something complete. On the other side, many of those who
hang out in android groups contribute more than one.
What we do not know is how many corporations and startups are out
there. I represent a corporation, Sadko Mobile ( http://sadko.mobi/ ).
Are there any other known Android corporates?
Kornelius Tuggerson
Apr 7, 2008, 8:27:34 PM4/7/08
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Thanks for pointing that out Peli. I didn't think about the team thing
myself. Other people have helped me with my project, and I plan to
share some of the prize with them if Geocast wins, but I am still
submitting as an individual contributor. I hope thats ok.
myself. Other people have helped me with my project, and I plan to
share some of the prize with them if Geocast wins, but I am still
submitting as an individual contributor. I hope thats ok.
Muthu Ramadoss
Apr 8, 2008, 1:29:41 AM4/8/08
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--
Thanks.
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Paul Marrington
Apr 9, 2008, 1:41:21 AM4/9/08
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I imagine we are not the only one who believe in the 11th hour. We
still have 12 items on the fix list and a lot of documentation to
polish. I doubt we will submit before Sunday the 13th.
still have 12 items on the fix list and a lot of documentation to
polish. I doubt we will submit before Sunday the 13th.
Incognito
Apr 9, 2008, 2:31:15 AM4/9/08
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I'm also of the 11th hour believer. It's my religion and motto.
On Apr 9, 1:41 am, Paul Marrington <paul.marrington....@gmail.com>
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On Apr 9, 1:41 am, Paul Marrington <paul.marrington....@gmail.com>
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haxhaxa
Apr 9, 2008, 3:53:39 PM4/9/08
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In my opinion, there will be about 15000 submission.
We will see, who is right.
Robbo
We will see, who is right.
Robbo
Muthu Ramadoss
Apr 10, 2008, 12:15:01 AM4/10/08
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feeling better now..
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