Losing entry judging results request

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Dan U.

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May 9, 2008, 2:54:13 PM5/9/08
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I've noticed a fair amount of discussion in the groups about posting
information for losing entries. Some people want to know more details
while others would prefer any details about them or their apps to be
secret. According to the emails sent out, there will be a gallery set
up in the future for whoever wants to display their apps, but I'm more
interested in judging results...

So, is there a way to request juding results for our own applications?
Maybe someone we can e-mail? I'd be interested in where my apps
ranked, what scores they received in the various sections, and if
there were any issues that got in the way of proper testing. At the
very least, that information would be very useful in case I want to
enter updated apps in ADC 2.

Shooter

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May 9, 2008, 2:57:00 PM5/9/08
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I second that. Great idea. Maybe not from the perspective of
questioning any decisions, but to get valuable feedback from someone
who spent some time to evaluate our applications. This information
doesn't have to be public. It can just came the way the personal email
came to us all.

Cheers,
Shooter.

Ram

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May 9, 2008, 2:59:37 PM5/9/08
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yup, scores on all four judging criteria (along with averages for all
1788 entries and average of top 10 scores) will be great.

if nothing else, it will be great to get a ranking (e.g. 60th app out
of 1788 or top 10% of all apps, top 50% of all apps etc...) will be
useful

On May 9, 11:54 am, "Dan U." <dan.ul...@gmail.com> wrote:

GodsMoon

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May 9, 2008, 3:22:04 PM5/9/08
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Any scoring info would be great.

q2dm1

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May 9, 2008, 3:42:12 PM5/9/08
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Agreed.

Rui Martins

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May 9, 2008, 3:00:38 PM5/9/08
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I second that!

I asked for the exact same thing in another thread.
Hope that we can get at least our own scoring !

But better yet would be any judge notes or similart, that would be
just GREAT!
The most valuable feedback.

I do like a constructive critics :)

Michael Johnston

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May 9, 2008, 3:28:20 PM5/9/08
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I'd like to see some indication of the scores too, whether it's the
actual scores or just approximate rankings. This would help inform
our future development efforts.

On May 9, 11:54 am, "Dan U." <dan.ul...@gmail.com> wrote:

SatG

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May 9, 2008, 3:57:18 PM5/9/08
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Yeah thats nice to know how they judged and what really lacks in the
app

Pete Zybrick

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May 9, 2008, 3:54:16 PM5/9/08
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also - what if an app was rejected because the developer accidentally
violated someone elses patent, better to know that early and refocus
effort on another app. hiring a lawyer to do the research is
expensive, and google has already done it anyway.
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beauforthax

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May 9, 2008, 4:08:08 PM5/9/08
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Judging results are very important. Such results should
tell us, how people see our applications and could point
are they worth effort and development or not.

Regards

thrusty

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May 9, 2008, 5:46:57 PM5/9/08
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I agree-- as we're continuing to improve our application for public
release later this year, it'd be great to see the scores the judges
gave us, and any comments they might have had.

Google, if you've retained these, can you please release them to us?

q2dm1

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May 9, 2008, 5:53:52 PM5/9/08
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On second thought the judge scores will mostly tell you if your readme
was good, so if you want constructive feedback better ask your friends
or post here and ask the community.

Android-Fan

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May 10, 2008, 12:45:42 AM5/10/08
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This is a great idea.

Each participant must receive a personal email stating his or her
application's rank amongst the 1788 submissions.

It will surely help us do an honest self-evaluation of our efforts and
our weaknesses.

One of the Microsoft Office Product Program Managers had mentioned as
to how in the 80's when Microsoft Office was not the #1 Office
Productivity Suite but much much lower (probably ranked 25th or so in
the US), Bill Gates vowed at an internal Microsoft meeting that they
would be # 1 in the future (which they are today). He did this by
ensuring that they had the best app in the marketplace.

I am positive that there are many people like me on this forum who
will take this initial setback of not qualifying for this round as a
stepping stone for further improving our Android apps. And remember,
Android's software architecture (via intents) encourages you to
constantly keep improving your applications lest another better app
comes along and throws your app out.

Yes. Loosing is definitely disappointing. In fact, very disappointing.

The 25000$ price and the recognition would have definitely helped.

But I have full confidence in Google's fairness and judging process.

The Top 50 apps were better than my app in the eyes of the esteemed
industry experts.

That is the reality.

So, my 2 cents to all 1728 app authors, do not get discouraged.

Drown your sorrows over the weekend and come back on Monday freshly
charged with how you can improve your future Android apps.

Google can definitely help by letting us know our rankings privately.

And my take-aways from my 500+ hours of Android hard work since
November 2007.

Knowledge of Mobile Software Development + Android + Eclipse + Java +
Sqlite (all of which was zero before Android).

Android Fan,
Mumbai, India.
> > Google, if you've retained these, can you please release them to us?- Hide quoted text -

vetch

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May 10, 2008, 10:59:56 AM5/10/08
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> So, my 2 cents to all 1728 app authors, do not get discouraged.
>
> Drown your sorrows over the weekend and come back on Monday freshly
> charged with how you can improve your future Android apps.

For what ? "Pizzas are not for free". Besides, you can't even give
your app to users, because... there aren't any :D

So, it is waste of money and time. It's summer, better to get a
vacation. Life is too short, to sit in the front of computer's display
and destroying eyes for an "Android's Glory". They get money, you get
doctor visit ;)

greets,
peter

ConAim

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May 10, 2008, 11:03:09 AM5/10/08
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rofl ...

RayAB

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May 10, 2008, 11:29:46 AM5/10/08
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Think for now. You have a concept, a prototype and an application, but
no users. Should not be that difficult to switch over to iPhone. You
have a market, millions of users and more if your appl will run at
iTouch also. Don't fight with the emulator any longer, work with real
hardware.
There is an advantage of not beeing among the 50. Android helped to
open the iPhone. Don't be desperate, go where the market is now.
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