SlideME Percentiles

[Shane Isbell]

SAM - SlideME Applications Manager

Effective use: In the 50th to 75th percentile of all submitted applications
Polish: In the 50th to 75th percentile of all submitted applications
Indispensability: In the 50th to 75th percentile of all submitted applications
Originality: In the 50th to 75th percentile of all submitted applications

Overall: In the 50th to 75th percentile of all submitted applications

 

Hmm, I guess an application manager that delivers content to the device is not indespensible. Who would need that? Now I know the ADC judges were smoking crack.

 

Shane

[Shane Isbell]

Maybe Google Potter has a spell for making applications magically appear on the device, all from GARage ;) because application managers aren't really needed in the new mobile environment.

 

Shane

[q2dm1]

It's just a shame you're in a unique position where switching/porting
to other platforms is not going to be possible (as far as I know).

[Shane Isbell]

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 10:35 AM, q2dm1 <trevo...@gmail.com> wrote:

It's just a shame you're in a unique position where switching/porting
to other platforms is not going to be possible (as far as I know).

 

Actually, I have done application managers on multiple platforms (I don't know of any platform that doesn't have one) so no problem there. We also have a songbird extension coming out for PC. But I really came back into mobile to try to help out the Android developer community not get locked into these critical (yet stangly despensible) application management systems from the big players. A bunch of dunderhead judges that don't know that an application manager is a critical part of the device won't influence that committment.

 

LiMo is the only other platform I would consider at the moment, but since Verizon joined LiMo, I'll take a wait and see approach for now.

 

Shane

[q2dm1]

Actually I was talking about mobile platforms. iPhone, WinMo, Symbain
and J2ME are all controlled by the "big players" so you wouldn't be
able to make a difference there.

On May 16, 7:44 pm, "Shane Isbell" <shane.isb...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Shane Isbell]

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 10:50 AM, q2dm1 <trevo...@gmail.com> wrote:

Actually I was talking about mobile platforms. iPhone, WinMo, Symbain
and J2ME are all controlled by the "big players" so you wouldn't be
able to make a difference there.

True. It's too late for those platforms.

[YA]

Shane:

honest, I am surprised! You know we did DroidStor that had some
similar functionality.

DroidStor

Effective use: In the top 25% of all submitted applications
Polish: In the top 25% of all submitted applications
Indispensability: In the top 25% of all submitted applications
Originality: In the top 25% of all submitted applications

Overall: In the top 25% of all submitted applications

Perhaps your application simply crashed in testing? I recall that when
I first downloaded and tested it, I could not get it to run.

I am just as surprised that we had at least 3 app managers in the ADC
but none made it to top. And without an app manager, who will get all
these great winning apps - and get to know about the other?

YA

[Shane Isbell]

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 11:18 AM, YA <yuri.a...@gmail.com> wrote:

Shane:

honest, I am surprised! You know we did DroidStor that had some
similar functionality.

DroidStor

Effective use: In the top 25% of all submitted applications
Polish: In the top 25% of all submitted applications
Indispensability: In the top 25% of all submitted applications
Originality: In the top 25% of all submitted applications

Overall: In the top 25% of all submitted applications

Perhaps your application simply crashed in testing? I recall that when
I first downloaded and tested it, I could not get it to run.

Well, no way it crashed, I stripped out all the network connections (couldn't get a clear answer on what the test network environment was supposed the be). We did fix that problem with the community client. It had some missing data on the JV server.

 

I am just as surprised that we had at least 3 app managers in the ADC
but none made it to top. And without an app manager, who will get all
these great winning apps - and get to know about the other?

 

Unbelievable!  How can judges miss this? It's mobile 101.

 

Shane

[wataru]

Hi Shane,

I understand your frustration - maybe our applications were
judged by the same group :)

I got

"In the 50th to 75th percentile of all submitted applications"

for "Indispensability" as well ...
I guess if judges spent 2-5 min, then they have no way of knowing
how "indispensible" my game is ...
but that is my own fault for choosing RPG game for ADC submission
(it would be nice if we know this earlier but I guess the large
submission at the end was unexpected even by the Google/OHA)

I still think my game has potentials and still believe that
RPG game is one of the most addictive game if it is built correctly.
I guess I will let market decide how truly "indispensible" my
application is at the end and with that believe, I'm still continue
working on my app.

P.S.

As you said, it is crucial to have distribution mechanism like
yours for mobile, so I hope you will keep working it as well
and let's ask the market! (=end users)
Also I liked your site design :)

----------------------------------------------
if you like an RPG game, then check this out!
under "Screen" you can see screenshots
http://dungeonwonders.com/
----------------------------------------------

[YA]

I guess the key answer to all weirdness that even let some hapless
applicants bitching here is ORIGINALITY. All the top apps are VERY
original (some are original beyond my humble comprehension) but most
are "niche" - fit for a special interest or purpose. Lack of PIM apps
can be explained that judges decided that Gcal, Gmail etc will do the
trick but lack of basic utility apps can only be explained that they
are not original enough. Take a connection manager or an alarm clock -
100% indispensable and 0% original. Hence, overall score around 50%.

BTW, what is your location? Somewhere in Europe?

YA

On May 16, 10:26 pm, "Shane Isbell" <shane.isb...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Shane Isbell]

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 11:38 AM, YA <yuri.a...@gmail.com> wrote:

I guess the key answer to all weirdness that even let some hapless
applicants bitching here is ORIGINALITY. All the top apps are VERY
original (some are original beyond my humble comprehension) but most
are "niche" - fit for a special interest or purpose. Lack of PIM apps
can be explained that judges decided that Gcal, Gmail etc will do the
trick but lack of basic utility apps can only be explained that they
are not original enough. Take a connection manager or an alarm clock -
100% indispensable and 0% original. Hence, overall score around 50%.

I was expecting we would get dinged for originality but not for indispensability, I took the latter as given.

BTW, what is your location? Somewhere in Europe?

We have a couple guys in Europe and I'm in the Seattle area. If you guys have an interest in app managers, there might be room for collaboration. We are building out some back end systems as well. We are setting up atom feeds for app info: http://jv.slideme.org:8080/atomserver/v1/applications/apk

Shane

[YA]

Let's see how it goes. The thing we are waiting for most right now is
source code of C++ libraries that is still being withheld, and of
course real phones.

YA

On May 16, 10:53 pm, "Shane Isbell" <shane.isb...@gmail.com> wrote:

[george_c]

Right!

Here is our unpolished app: http://www.slideme.org/sam

George

[Shane Isbell]

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 4:32 PM, george_c <chri...@gmail.com> wrote:

Right!

Here is our unpolished app:  http://www.slideme.org/sam

 

Man, we've got to kick Kon out of SlideME and make him give back all his industry awards ;)

 

Shane

[q2dm1]

I really am at a loss of words. Your application is obviously more
polished and mature than a large part of the winning submissions. How
can they expect to be taken seriously?

[Shane Isbell]

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 5:09 PM, q2dm1 <trevo...@gmail.com> wrote:

I really am at a loss of words. Your application is obviously more
polished and mature than a large part of the winning submissions. How
can they expect to be taken seriously?

I really can't take the results seriously. We have a top design guy in the industry as part of the SlideME team and we expected to nail that criteria as well. We had plans for the ADC II but we decided its not much worth it.

 

Shane