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[ihips...@gmail.com]

This forum could be quite useful to users to make suggestions or ask and answer questions regarding app features or the download library. But it appears to be pretty inactive, possibly partly because people aren't aware of it. Could it be a good idea to put a note somewhere in the app itself mentioning the existence of this forum as a place to discuss and learn more about the And Bible app?

[Tuomas Airaksinen]

Hi,

More than mailing list activity, I would like to encourage people to contribute their ideas straight to Github, where everyone can suggest new features, report bugs, and comment on each other's

suggestions / ideas etc. And secondarily, for those that don't use Github, we offer support email (help.a...@gmail.com) which also is these days based on a ticket system and is maintained by the development team. These methods are easier to maintain and keep things under their topics. 

But I agree that these methods could be better advertised from the app itself. Created issue: https://github.com/AndBible/and-bible/issues/843

Best regards,

Tuomas

On Mon, Sep 7, 2020 at 11:51 PM ihips...@gmail.com <ihips...@gmail.com> wrote:

This forum could be quite useful to users to make suggestions or ask and answer questions regarding app features or the download library. But it appears to be pretty inactive, possibly partly because people aren't aware of it. Could it be a good idea to put a note somewhere in the app itself mentioning the existence of this forum as a place to discuss and learn more about the And Bible app?

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[Johnny RnR]

Oh goodie, the right discussion from the right people about the right ideas that need to be addressed.

I just got here a day or two ago, d/l'd And Bible because I was wearily wearing myself out, and my hardcover bible, flipping pages back and forth, opening and closing getting here a little, there a little, a little at a time. Time to amp it up! 

I used to be a build engineer. I used to be a production, manager. I used to be an ISP administrator. I used to be a data entry clerk after I was a busboy before I was all those other things and some other things too, before and after. 

Now I'm old. I like to claim that as Magi's administrator I read everything on the 'net at a time when it was possible to do so. RFCs, IETFs, manpages and all manner of RTFMs. There was nothing else. This was at a time when the biggest thing was gopher. Then the next week came and there was mosaic client for ncsa servers. Oh goodie, more reading. 

I've done so much reading off of so many screens I now wear glasses because my eyes got pixelated.

Yet, I'm still reading. Now it's the Bible and all manner of related reference works. This is not just for something to read either for I've discarded all my other reading materials (and videos, games, music). I used to have quite a collection of O'Reilly manuals and Stephen King fiction. All gone. No more. They just don't contain the answers.

I came across some real information in real time and it blew my mind how blind we are and misled we can become. Well, me anyway. 

So, I wanted to know something and I got bogged down. It was a simple thing. It came because of curiosity. Now, because of curiosity, I find myself needing to know more things. I could have either given up or plugged away at it. After all, I do have time. Time to isolate from a germ infested world. Time to stop yelling at that idiot in the White House via fb or just straight at the TV. Time to avoid all manner of corruption pervading every facet of civilized society. Time to sit down and figure this bible out in the most profound way possible: by study and meditation. The book has been my guide and I need this app to be my servant in the same way. 

So, I'm willing to put in the time to teach my servant how best to present himself to me. That's me I need him to know and not so much him that I need to know. After all, he's the servant and I'm the master. He shouldn't be above me. I shouldn't have to bow down to him. If he presents himself to me as my servant, he's the one that'll grow in stature as he helps me do the same. 

So, back to hanging up my mouse by a noose again when I needed to teach a Windows program how to be automated as I needed it to be and not encumbering me with having to do things for it. What I need are two things to get my servant happy under my ever swiping, poking, finger prodding, investigative demands: i) a data dictionary in two parts, ii) a quick understanding of his UI.

The dictionary will, 1. Relate what the tech references are (I found this to be the most annoying thing about README files back in the day. Having to track down and research every bit of word to figure out what the program actually does because the name does not always say and I didn't have time to always build it to install it only to read its man page to find that out either). 2. (optional/feature req.) Bible terminology. 
The UI could be as simple as a list of the icons and their usage.

One piece of curiosity so you can relate to why I find having to track down every single piece of curiosity cumbersome: Crosswire. That's it. Just the one word and I haven't the foggiest notion what you're talking about. Add to that any number of words and I feel like I'm being put upon to do something. Ah, no. My servant is going to tell me what I need to know without my having to ask either him or someone else. See?

I'll do the work and when someone else shows up here looking for the servant, that's what they'll find. Comprendez? Okey dokey? R u good w/that?