A320 Table

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The bad point which will not be so much of an issue in row 1 is the lack of the centre table. I have always found this extremely useful for putting a drink on or a laptop so that you can watch or work as you eat and drink. In my row, I was on the aisle, so it was fine for me as the person next to me had put up the centre table. However, if he wanted to get put during the meal service it would have been quite tricky although I guess he could have dumped stuff on the empty seat.

Other than those two differences the seats were exactly the same as the current Club Europe seats. The other difference in the cabin was the lack of the drop-down TV screens which display the safety video and moving map. All safety demos are done manually which, if like me you are totally sick of the safety video, not necessarily a bad thing!

As per the current seats the legroom in row 2 onwards is the same as economy although on the neo economy seats are even tighter on seat pitch towards the back of the aircraft. The person in the seat in front reclined their seat back immediately after take off until landing and I struggled to get my laptop fully open to work!

For the back half of the aircraft, they have new slimline seats in economy, but they do at least have USB charging sockets. So if you are flying economy you would be best to try to sit in the more comfortable seats at the front of the cabin.

Sadly, this is not a welcome change to Club Europe. Although there are ways around it, having no centre table is annoying and devalues the Club Europe proposition further. The food was pretty dull if you travel BA a lot and the crew mediocre. I do like having the centre seat free but to be honest on short flights unless you can get a good Club Europe deal or need the tier points, the exit row seats are nearly as good.

That said, as ever it all depends how it is fitted out. Both Lufthansa and SAS increased the seat pitch at the front as a result of feedback from their higher fare paying passengers. BA left it the same as economy and removed the table, something I regard as useful.

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Seat width is important, more so for larger people. I am a 6 foot, thin athletic male. Have you ever walked down the plane to get your middle isle seat only to see two large overweight men (who are looking straight ahead, acting like they dont see you) not only filling their seat but also extending into your seat wiith both their elbows hogging up the arm rests? Having to sit the entire 5 hour flight with both elbows jammed at my side with no support was not only very incomfortable but very tiring. Have an enjoyable, comfortable flight, right? Every inch in seat width makes a difference.

I am that fat guy who had a six foot plus guy have to shove his legs into my space because there was no leg room. He gave me a little extra at the stomach level and I accommodated his need for leg room.

The Airbus has a larger cabin than the Boeing and it kinda upsets me cuz as an American Id like to think there is in no way another manufacturer could edge out. Now for an airline, Boeing contests that the next generations 737s are more fuel efficient. They do not mention it beating the cabin space of an A320 however. The difference is barely noticeable but it is there. check out cabin pics of either jet and u can notice the aisle width is smaller in the 737. Its the little details.

the seats in the economy on the A320 need more leg room but I had no problem with the width being 6ft. 2in. and 240 pounds.The premiem seats have plenty of room all of the way around. The windows could be a little bigger. Opinions are like you know what, everybody has one and that is mine.

Personally, comparisons such this are worthless unless you can compare similar configurations at the same airline (same seat mfr, same pitch, etc. etc.). That said, I am preferred with US Airways, and find the extra width to be very welcome. I try to avoid any segments (if I can help it) that are non airbus.

Yes! They should carry on with the 757! Also, I understand Airbus has wider seats, but 737s are at least 15 million cheaper than the a320s and the 737s are also more fuel efficient. This makes it way cheaper for airlines. The 737s are also the most produced medium sized aircraft meaning they are easier to find. Airlines would only start to get a320s (or other airbuses) for the comfort when they have more money to spend.

The 737-900 is better looking Than the old versions, but it still fell crammed! Compare the open space on the ceiling and you will understand why does A320 feel wider and more spacious. Though it is really marginal.

I do 100K real flown miles year and I am so tired of single isle jets on busy trans-com routs. Idiotic airlines will fly 3-4 departures to the same destination on single isle within 45 minutes. Instead of putting one 777 or 787 on it. For 7 hour flight most people adjust their schedule. 45 min makes no difference. Of course on 1.2h flight the story is different. Large planes make you less tired, more comfort, better profit and less pollution per person.

I flew an Alaskan airlines 737 900 from Baltimore to LA last week and I flew a delta airlines A 320 from LA to Atlanta on the way back and in my opinion The A 320 so much more comfortable and the seats appeared to wider than what I was on on the new 737 900 that there was no comparison . And Alaska airlines is a lousy airline

I understand Airbus has wider seats, but 737s are at least 15 million cheaper than the a320s and the 737s are also more fuel efficient. This makes it way cheaper for airlines. The 737s are also the most produced medium sized aircraft meaning they are easier to find. Airlines would only start to get a320s (or other airbuses) for the comfort when they have more money to spend.

The A320 is much more comfortable than the 737. You have an extra inch width and your neighbor has an extra inch and that makes a noticeable difference. Also the A320 seat is more comfortable for the lower back. Also there is more room underneath the seat in front of you. No contest.

The standard of flights comes through the Business Class and First Class is the vast amounts of not only leg room but also fully reclining seats with the fully comforted area with all accessories of our entertainment.

Hello, I'm doing the "IF INSTALLED TABLE" for ToLiss inspired by the real documentation. Could someone just check what I have done, and contribute to the items BUSS and AILERON ANTI DROOP ? Thanks in advance

? I've never ever done that... I always align on the existing airport reference. So I never spotted that need and I never used that procedure. I'm astonished. [edition : now I can remember, I scrolled the LAT LON in toliss planes as well, before forgetting that. I'll add a line in the tables above] I always align on the airport ref, because Airbus realigns the aircraft on takeoff runway when the aircraft don't have the GPS. That was simulated very well, in FS2004 with Eric Marciano Wilco Airbusses (which weren't GPS equipped). But Toliss, even CEO, have the GPS anyway. Now I will consider doing a more in depth comparison of alignment capabilities across the Toliss fleet to catch it with my own eyes ?

I would love those tables to be delivered officially by Toliss (GK), because things evolves through all the versions, and it's a little complicated to get it all right in my tables from memory, parts of change logs, and simulation tests.

"The IRSs are usually aligned to the departure airport reference point coordinates. lt is

recommended to use these coordinates, as stored in the navigation database, for

transit flights, or for any flight with GPS. When published, use of the gate coordinates

(insert/slew in the INIT A page) should be reserved for aircraft without GPS, and when

flying long segments without radio updates."

Another option on single aisles I'm interested in is center tank jet pump, AFAIK toliss only got that as default on A321, but my company got jet pump on some A319 and A320 as well, and all A320neo got jet pump option.

There is a METRIC ALT button between altitude and VS knobs on FCU, you press that you should able to switch meter altitude on PFD altimeter, if it's not the option, you'll only see a small meter altitude line on the bottom of lower ECAM .

"Center Tank Transfer Valves" -> FUEL -> No (that's for an A319). Is that the correct item of my table to designate the pump from center to wing tank as in your second drawing ? I'm under the impression that yes.

When I deselect the GPS in the selected navaids (from position monitor page, prior alignement) and align on airport reference (LFPG set erroneously for testing purpose) while on apron at Sidney (YSSY), the MIX IRS after alignement are LFPG coordinates as expected, but the FMGS position is brought back to the GPS position (along with a big map shift on the navigation display) and therefore I can see on the navigation display that I'm at Sidney in the end.

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