LP9 Data Collection Activity call

[Jun Ogawa]

Dear all, 

As many of you know, Linked Pasts 9 just started yesterday and we, the People Activity, held a kick-off meeting to discuss agendas coming two weeks. Thank you so much to those who attended the event, and for those who couldn't, we are very welcome to join the asynchronous activities from now on. 

At yesterday's meeting, we decided to work on collecting and depositing some sample LOD people data from existing projects, whether it is your own or of some others, as one of the two tasks we take for these two weeks. For the details, please look at the agenda document from yesterday. 

For this activity, I started the issue on our GitHub and created a sample thread to introduce the project and the data that provides. Maybe we can start the activity by introducing some data on this issue, either from the existing projects or other personal data? 

Once we have some sample data, we can make some new directories on GitHub and start storing them in an organized way. For this depositing method, we can discuss more on this Google group! 

Anyway, those who are interested, please begin editing the issues!

All the best,

Jun Ogawa

[Gabriel Bodard]

Many thanks, Jun.

In the first instance, could I ask if anyone in the group (whether from the call on Monday, or others interested in the LOD People activity) would be willing to help take a lead on this exercise? The idea as I understand it is to collect (a) information about and (b) small sample sets of open-licensed, linked person data that we can upload to the LOD-People Git repository for (i) example, (ii) analysis and (iii) experimentation with any queries, formats or tools we want to pilot and propose here. What this would involve would be perhaps some subset of:

1. Create a sample of your own dataset, document in the light-touch way Jun has proposed in the ticket, and upload to the repo;
2. Find and excerpt a small sample, plus light documentation, of other open licensed datasets that are available online;
3. Reach out to others and encourage them to create and license small samples of their data for this purpose.

I suggest that we create a /sample-data/ directory, and put each sample dataset in a child folder therein (potentially multiple files in open formats such as RDF, JSON, XML or even CSV + Readme + license). Or if you think it would be easier to have a flat folder structure for scripting experiments on this data, then we'll need a very very transparent and strict naming scheme, to minimise confusion (and perhaps a registry file listing all data in the directory?).

Who would like to help get this set up?

In the meantime, please feel free to start gathering data examples, posting suggestions (here or on the ticket), request Git access, etc.

Many thanks!

Gabby

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[Greta Hawes]

Dear Gabby and Jun,

 

Thanks for setting this up, and sorry I couldn’t make the first call.   I’ve added some info and a sample from MANTO data to the issue that Jun created.  Happy to move this wherever it needs to go if a registry file ends up being preferred.

 

Greta.

 

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[Kyriaki Konstantinidou]

Dear Gabby and Jun, 

Thank you very much for setting this up! I shall ask Brady Kiesling to provide a sample from the "Digital Pausanias" project. I think that, by the end of January, we shall have sufficient data for a sample from the SLaVEgents project too. 

With my best wishes, 

      Kyriaki 

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[Sinai Rusinek]

Dear Tom and all, 

Would you like me to start a table for the first activity? We can then share it in your email. I believe a google spreadsheet would be the most convenient for the time of the LP9 - we can then move it to Github later. Or did you already have something planned? 

All the best,

Sinai

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[Tom Gheldof]

Dear Sinai,

That would be great! I was also thinking about doing this (but currently still doing that for the Gazetteers activity), starting from the projects listed on the Github page, but if you want, you can already go ahead and share it with everyone in this group, so we can further populate the list and afterwards update in on Github...

All the best,

Tom

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[Gabriel Bodard]

Dear Tom and Sinai,

Are we now crossing the streams and talking about the first exercise (collating and describing existing digital person-data projects), which as far as I can see hasn't been proposed on this list yet?

If so yes, let's pick that up here (so not as to confuse with the "sample data" thread) and decide how to start.

Thanks,

Gabby

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[Sinai Rusinek]

Thanks Gabby, you are right, of course, sorry for the mess. 

Before proceeding to filling the table with the project descriptions, could we first discuss what parameters we would like to review in the table? 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qvl_VZuHYPyKcivuDRBpL-Tk9qT8XhcWFqXpMjAWiFA/edit?usp=sharing 

For example, I am still not sure that the table will enable us to account for the intricacies of databases that deal with names and attestations in addition to Persons. 

Feel free to add suggested parameters in the first sheet or in the table, or just continue the discussion here...

All best, 

Sinai

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[Tom Gheldof]

Thanks, Sinai! And you're right, Gabby, best to keep the 2 initiatives separately :-)

Indeed, more onomastic focussed databases (such as TM People) will need other parameters, so it seems best if other group members can also check the spreadsheet and add suggestions...

All best,

Tom

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[Greta Hawes]

Hi Sinai,

 

These categories in the spreadsheet look like they cover most of the territory that I was thinking in terms of.  Perhaps also any system for internal disambiguation or capturing uncertainty – i.e. relations between Persons within the dataset that express “possibly same as” etc?

 

Greta.

 

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[Jun Ogawa]

Hi all,

For the second exercise of collecting sample data, I just created a new folder, /sample-data/, in the repository (https://github.com/DigiClass/LOD-People/tree/main/sample-data). 

So, any of those who have any sample people data, please feel free to upload it there (either as a collaborator or by pull requests)! 

Also if you have time, please write a brief description of it in GitHub issues (https://github.com/DigiClass/LOD-People/issues/1). 

Best

Jun

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[Jun Ogawa]

Dear all, 

At today's meeting, we discussed again the process of uploading sample data to our GH repository. 

Based on this discussion, we drafted a README (https://github.com/DigiClass/LOD-People/blob/main/sample-data/README.md) right under the 'sample-data' folder. 

All the details are now in this document. If you know or have any data related to historical people, please share it with the community!

Best regards,

Jun

2023年12月11日月曜日 15:02:41 UTC+9 Jun Ogawa: