how to edit texts in Ørberg's fashion?

105 views
Skip to first unread message

Rockgerus

unread,
Apr 6, 2021, 7:52:10 AM4/6/21
to Ancient Greek Best Practices


Dear colleagues, 

I hope you can help me here. do you know of any software or online program to edit texts in a more appealing way? I normally use google docs because it allows me to work in real time while I share my screen, and I can also prepare in advance the text (and it's also sth that students can always have access to) But the result is sometimes a bit chaotic. Is there any way of having texts in AG with images and comments on the margins? 

I'm not pretending to do my own drawings, but sth like the edition of Sprechen Sie Attisch by Βεδυερός would be great. I attach one photo of this edition, and also a photo of how my texts look...
Bildschirmfoto 2021-04-06 um 13.48.58.png
Bildschirmfoto 2021-04-06 um 13.46.51.png

Allan Moraes

unread,
Apr 6, 2021, 10:01:24 AM4/6/21
to ancient-greek-...@googlegroups.com
Hello, Rogelio

Since you are using Google Docs, I think Google Slides could be an (also free and nice) option: 
  • You can work with images more freely, moving them around without worrying with alignments and the surrounding text.
  • You can work nicely with text also, moving them inside text boxes; sure it won't look like a textbook or a nice book page, but if you have some design notions, you can make nice slides combining the text with shapes like stripes, triangles, circles etc., all very easy to do using Google Slides.
  • You'll have a nice area to work your text alongside images; you can even resize/format the 'slide/page' the way you want, using it more vertically, like a book page, or more horizontally, like a slide, or even something in between, like a square; you have only to be careful to dispose all the elements in an aesthetically appealing way (to dispose elements in different/not traditional page formats, like a 1280 width x 720 height slide, is a major challenge even for professional designers).
Now, if you want something really nice and appealing, I would suggest InDesign with Publish Online:
  • Negative points: paid; you can't work in real time with colleagues (but I wouldn't worry about it since you can always make a draft version of your material using Google Docs, review it with colleagues, and then format it using InDesign); demands some InDesign knowledge; you'll have to look for tutorials if you want to animate your presentation (to give it a more 'interactive' touch) when using Publish Online.
  • Positive points: cool fonts; nice templates free on Adobe Stock; integration with other apps (like Photoshop, Illustrator etc. with the Creative Cloud).
  • Check the discount in Adobe apps plan for students or teachers.
  • I've helped my wife to make a small presentation using InDesign/Publish Online; in this case, a simple presentation, with no 'interactive' content (you can also make animations like the ones on this presentation, by the way, using Microsoft PowerPoint, but it will not look so 'smooth' in some aspects); you can check it here: bit.ly/memorabilia313 
My final tip: not matter the kind of app/software you are using, you can always make it more appealing with some design techniques. Check Robin William's The Non-Designer's Design Book. 😉

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ancient Greek Best Practices" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ancient-greek-best-p...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ancient-greek-best-practices/ee4afaba-c9b1-48cc-8d21-d6d340b887adn%40googlegroups.com.


--

Roberto Carrera

unread,
Apr 6, 2021, 1:45:47 PM4/6/21
to Ancient Greek Best Practices
Hi,

I am currently using LaTeX for my dissertation (working on a Hexaplaric MS). I think if you have the time to learn it, it is a very useful alternative to GoogleDocs or even Word. You can read more about it here> https://www.latex-project.org/


Regards,
Roberto

Seumas Macdonald

unread,
Apr 7, 2021, 2:57:39 AM4/7/21
to ancient-greek-...@googlegroups.com
I asked Patricius/Keegan, who has just done an Ørberg style version of the book of Exodus in Latin, what he used, I quote:

"xelatex with the marginnote package for basic marginal notes and the babel package for correctly doing automatic correct hyphenation with fully-justified latin text."

For myself, very similar to you Rogelio, I have mostly just used a Word doc in classes and manipulated the text on screen. Sometimes I use slideshows. I suppose if I was preparing a text more with marginal notes and images, creating a document in advance using text-boxes would allow a "main text" section, and then a margin section.

Seumas

Virus-free. www.avast.com

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ancient Greek Best Practices" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ancient-greek-best-p...@googlegroups.com.


--
Dr. Seumas MacDhòmhnaill (Macdonald)
Patristics researcher | Language acquisition facilitator | Translator | Independent Scholar

Rockgerus

unread,
Apr 10, 2021, 8:21:12 AM4/10/21
to Ancient Greek Best Practices


Hi! Thank you very much for your recmmendations. For the moment I will finish this month by simply dividing the google doc in two columns. I already downloaded the  LaTeX, but I still need to read more carefully how it works. 

I checked also your presentation, Allan, it is really nice, certainly much more appealing than google slides, but for the moment I'll stick to options that are for free. I'll get however the book you recommend. My girlfriend is working on a piano method and I think it will be useful also for her. 

I'll share with you soon (I hope) my improvements! 

My best, 
Rogelio 

Fletcher Hardison

unread,
Apr 10, 2021, 9:01:10 AM4/10/21
to ancient-greek-...@googlegroups.com
One thing to keep in mind is that LaTeX doesn't do unicode aí that well. So you'll need to offer XeLaTeX which comes with most LaTeX installations, but there are some differences. I've used XeLaTeX to typeset Greek before so you can totally do it. Just be aware that there a difference.

Fletcher

Message has been deleted

Rockgerus

unread,
Jun 17, 2021, 9:22:18 AM6/17/21
to Ancient Greek Best Practices

Hi!

or have you tried canva.com

I think it worked much better than anything I've tried so far. 

I send you here a sample of one class I'm teaching at Polis Institute. 

Bildschirmfoto 2021-06-17 um 15.21.03.png
Reply all
Reply to author
Forward
0 new messages